Any intel UPP-103 personality boards for sale?

2019-03-18 Thread craig andrews via cctalk
I am in the market for a UPP-816 and a UPP-878 personality boards if anyone is 
thinking of selling theirs.  Please message me.

Thanks

Craig

Re: DECimage questions

2019-03-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Thanks so much for the detailed response! I’m especially glad to know regular 
72pin SIMMs should work.

If I find a DEC reseller that has DECimage or 10Base-T boards for a reasonable 
price, I’ll let you know.

  — Chris

Re: DECimage questions

2019-03-18 Thread Gary Grebus via cctalk
On 3/17/19 15:36, Chris Hanson wrote:
> I recently acquired a DECimage X terminal, which is theoretically a VXT-2000 
> with an add-on 2D accelerator. Unfortunately while the terminal is badges as 
> a DECimage it didn?t include the board, just a frame buffer.
> 

You may not find any software that can actually use the DECimage board.

DEC's strategy for using X terminals for image display was based around
the X Imaging Extension (XIE).  That was an extension to the X protocol
that allowed an application to setup a rendering pipeline (decompress,
scale, filter, color adjust, etc) and then "transport" the image into
the pipeline.  If the X server had an accelerator, then the pipeline
might get mapped onto the accelerator hardware.  It was almost a win on
the underpowered VAX's of the day (especially for decompression).

So to take advantage of the accelerator, an application had to make
XIElib calls (analogous to Xlib).  The libraries (and XIE) were part of
the VMS and Ultrix products, but I'm not sure there was anything that
used them (maybe some example programs).

I don't remember if board for the VXT2000 had any other capabilities
that might have helped with normal X server operations.

  -- Gary



Re: Fujitsi 2444AC 9-track tape drive/PDP-11

2019-03-18 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:35 PM W2HX via cctalk  wrote:
>
> Now for some questions.
>
> 1.  I've been told the QT13 is a very good card to interface here. I've 
> been looking for a while on ebay without luck. I do see a QT14 on ebay right 
> now at a good price, but I am not familiar with the "S" card business and 
> what that means for use in a PDP-11 backplane.
>
> 2.  Anyone have a QT13 for sale? Or based on my dec and unix interests, 
> is there a better/recommended card?
>
> 3.  Anyone have the 50 pin cables/connectors available? If not I feel 
> confident I could make these up. But I thought I'd ask in case someone has a 
> set getting in their way
>

A Fujitsu M2444AC in new condition is a great tape drive if you want
to work with 9-track 1/2-inch tapes, and don't need 800BPI, and plan
to use it with a host with a Pertec interface, and have the space to
set it up and someone to help you move a 200 pound drive into place.
You have to manually thread the tape when you load it, but I actually
consider that a plus as it is one less thing to go wrong compared to
an auto loading tape drive.

I currently have a couple of them that I have used with Q-Bus systems.
I agree with the recommendation to use an Emulex QT13 interface. That
is what I have used in TMSCP mode to install 2.11BSD and RSTS/E 10.1
from tape on an 11/73 system. I also have one or more Dilog
DQ130/132/140/142 Pertec interfaces (I forget what the models are,
some don't have manuals on Bitsavers). Those aren't quite as friendly
to set up and use as the QT13.

I'd have to look and see how many QT13 cards I have. Probably more
than two for the two M2444AC drives I have. I just built cables
myself. I have a 3M Scotchflex 3640 press which makes it easy to press
the IDC connectors on to the cable. I bought a full 100-foot roll of
3M 1700/50 or 3365/50 cable for a reasonable price on eBay.


Re: SCSI2SD: Is it worth a try?

2019-03-18 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 3/18/2019 9:15 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote:

What is the experience with the SCSI2SD with old computers? It looks to be
SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatible and I see a lot of reports of usage on this
list. I am curious about how well it works and which version to get.

Versions up to 5 seem to be GPLed and reasonably available. V6 does not
seem to have schematics or boards open sourced and I haven't seen a
supplier for them. The web page lists some sources, but they don't have the
V6 available.

It looks like the V6 is not open because someone used the design without
following the GPL.

V6 claims synchronous transfers, but I don't think most of my hardware
supports it. That consists of VAXstations and qbus scsi cards. If I was
after speed I wouldn't be using old hardware, but the speed has to be
consistent with the era.

Chuck


I've had mixed success.  Neither a V5.1 nor a V6.03 worked with my MicroVAX 
3100 M95, it's built in SCSI interface and OpenVMS V7.3.  Light access worked 
but as soon as you tried any kind of actual work it threw hoards of mount 
verification messages and errors piled up and became unusuable.

On the other hand, the V5.1 worked terrific on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10 with 
a Qlogic ISP1020 SCSI card and OpenVMS V8.4

Others have had success with MicroVAXen and V7.3 and earlier so I think it's my 
system, but I haven't had time to work it out yet.

--
John H. Reinhardt
  PRRT  #8909
  C HS  #11530
  N-Trak   #7566



Fujitsi 2444AC 9-track tape drive/PDP-11

2019-03-18 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Hello friends,

I recently acquired a NIB 9-track for use in my (someday to be operational) 
PDP-11/23+ or PDP-11/73 (I've lost track of the details).  I got it on ebay for 
$150 but the shipping from CA to NY was not insubstantial :). The ebay ad 
showed a well-used unit but when it arrived it was clearly new in box! Nice 
when that happens :) Some pix:

http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/Fujitsu-2444AC/

It is VERY heavy! Took me and my 17 year old (and a lot of sweat and swearing) 
to get it up to the attic where my burgeoning little vintage computing lab is 
shaping up.

I should mention, I'd like this tape drive to be able to work in either the 
various DEC OS's available (RT-11/RSX/others?) and also Unix/BSD which I plan 
(hope) to get up and running.

Now for some questions.

1.  I've been told the QT13 is a very good card to interface here. I've 
been looking for a while on ebay without luck. I do see a QT14 on ebay right 
now at a good price, but I am not familiar with the "S" card business and what 
that means for use in a PDP-11 backplane.

2.  Anyone have a QT13 for sale? Or based on my dec and unix interests, is 
there a better/recommended card?

3.  Anyone have the 50 pin cables/connectors available? If not I feel 
confident I could make these up. But I thought I'd ask in case someone has a 
set getting in their way

4.  Anyone ever make a pertec to USB project? Might be interesting to get 
access to old tapes on more modern computers?

Thanks all!

73 Eugene W2HX




Re: SCSI2SD: Is it worth a try?

2019-03-18 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> What is the experience with the SCSI2SD with old computers? It looks to be
> SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatible and I see a lot of reports of usage on this
> list. I am curious about how well it works and which version to get.

Depends on the machine and the OS. Worked well in a PowerBook with MacOS,
but NetBSD on my IIci threw all kinds of problems with it. Works great in
my Solbourne S3000, but opened the SCSI fuse on my rare PowerBook "800."

I don't know if v6 is appreciably better. Most of my experience is with v5.
Odds are it will work but it's not a panacea, nor (in fairness) is it sold
as one.

Some observations in more detail:

https://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2018/11/and-now-for-something-completely.html

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- Apathetic dyslexic agnostic: "I don't care if there's a dog" ---


Re: SCSI2SD: Is it worth a try?

2019-03-18 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk




On 3/18/19 7:22 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 7:16 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:


What is the experience with the SCSI2SD with old computers? It looks to be
SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatible and I see a lot of reports of usage on this
list. I am curious about how well it works and which version to get.

Versions up to 5 seem to be GPLed and reasonably available. V6 does not
seem to have schematics or boards open sourced and I haven't seen a
supplier for them. The web page lists some sources, but they don't have the
V6 available.

It looks like the V6 is not open because someone used the design without
following the GPL.

V6 claims synchronous transfers, but I don't think most of my hardware
supports it. That consists of VAXstations and qbus scsi cards. If I was
after speed I wouldn't be using old hardware, but the speed has to be
consistent with the era.

Chuck


I've been using the V5 boards in a variety of systems for a few years now
-- VAX (micro-and-otherwise), PDP-11 (via the usual Emulex and CMD
controllers), Sun-2 and Sun-3 workstations, HP/Apollo 400 systems, a
Symbolics XL1200, various old Macintosh systems and probably some other
things I've forgotten.  At LCM+L we're using them in our VAX-11/785 and
730, and we're using a V6 in our 7000-640.  I've had very few issues and
the developer has been very responsive to bug reports (though I'll admit
it's been a couple of years since I've had to report one).

The V5 is plenty fast for most vintage gear, I don't think they come close
to hitting the max throughput.  That's what I'd recommend for the systems
you're talking about.

- Josh

I have only used the V5 boards. I have not tried them on as many systems as
Josh, but otherwise I have had similar position experiences using them. 
I have

been using them on sun4c and sun4m systems.

alan



Re: SCSI2SD: Is it worth a try?

2019-03-18 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 7:16 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> What is the experience with the SCSI2SD with old computers? It looks to be
> SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatible and I see a lot of reports of usage on this
> list. I am curious about how well it works and which version to get.
>
> Versions up to 5 seem to be GPLed and reasonably available. V6 does not
> seem to have schematics or boards open sourced and I haven't seen a
> supplier for them. The web page lists some sources, but they don't have the
> V6 available.
>
> It looks like the V6 is not open because someone used the design without
> following the GPL.
>
> V6 claims synchronous transfers, but I don't think most of my hardware
> supports it. That consists of VAXstations and qbus scsi cards. If I was
> after speed I wouldn't be using old hardware, but the speed has to be
> consistent with the era.
>
> Chuck
>

I've been using the V5 boards in a variety of systems for a few years now
-- VAX (micro-and-otherwise), PDP-11 (via the usual Emulex and CMD
controllers), Sun-2 and Sun-3 workstations, HP/Apollo 400 systems, a
Symbolics XL1200, various old Macintosh systems and probably some other
things I've forgotten.  At LCM+L we're using them in our VAX-11/785 and
730, and we're using a V6 in our 7000-640.  I've had very few issues and
the developer has been very responsive to bug reports (though I'll admit
it's been a couple of years since I've had to report one).

The V5 is plenty fast for most vintage gear, I don't think they come close
to hitting the max throughput.  That's what I'd recommend for the systems
you're talking about.

- Josh


SCSI2SD: Is it worth a try?

2019-03-18 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
What is the experience with the SCSI2SD with old computers? It looks to be
SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatible and I see a lot of reports of usage on this
list. I am curious about how well it works and which version to get.

Versions up to 5 seem to be GPLed and reasonably available. V6 does not
seem to have schematics or boards open sourced and I haven't seen a
supplier for them. The web page lists some sources, but they don't have the
V6 available.

It looks like the V6 is not open because someone used the design without
following the GPL.

V6 claims synchronous transfers, but I don't think most of my hardware
supports it. That consists of VAXstations and qbus scsi cards. If I was
after speed I wouldn't be using old hardware, but the speed has to be
consistent with the era.

Chuck


Re: 2.11 BSD on an 11/93 with an CMD SCSI Module

2019-03-18 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
Bill,

Here's the patched boot loader that you need.

http://www.chdickman.com/pdp11/rauboot.s

The rest is an exercise for the student. :-) Its about the journey, not the
destination, otherwise we would be somewhere else.

I have to say that it took a lot of patience to get 2.11BSD running on my
first PDP-11/73. I think it was about 3 years before I was able to get the
parts together and figure out the method. SIMH didn't have MSCP support and
there was a bug in ra boot loader that took a while to fix.

Chuck


On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:42 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 3/16/19 3:12 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >>> Now I need a program that can move Tape data back and forth between
> >>> real drives and tap/tpc images.  Anybody got one?
> >
> > https://github.com/brouhaha/tapeutils
> >
>
> I just took a quick glance but somehow I doubt that's going
> to compile or run on a PDP-11.  :-)  u32?
>
> I grabbed a copy.  I am willing to try almost anything.  :-)
>
> bill
>
>


Clearpoint SNXRAM/12 VME

2019-03-18 Thread Earl Baugh via cctalk
Hey,

Anybody happen to have any documentation for a Clearpoint SNXRAM card?
I’ll take any version ( though I have the /12 card ). I’m trying to figure
out the jumpers on this board. It generates a memory error in my Sun 3/110
but not sure if that’s because of overlapping addressing.

I’ve tried searching for the doc for years ( this year I’m trying very hard
to get my Sun 2/120 and  Sun 3/110 running correctly. Got my Sun 1/100 and
Sun 4/110 booting correctly, disk images are almost ready for them )

Earl



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Re: DECimage questions

2019-03-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 3/17/19 6:34 PM, Joseph Zatarski via cctalk wrote:
Unfortunately, as I already stated I don't, and my only idea where to 
get one is ebay and similar sites, which I'm sure you already know.


What "similar sites" are people haunting these days?



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: HELP needed on a vocabulary problem ;-)

2019-03-18 Thread Phil Blundell via cctalk
On Mon, 2019-03-18 at 13:03 +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
> The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter.
> I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed circuit ( strip / ribbon / 
>  what's the "correct" word ??? ) *** AND *** the associated connector
> I searched Mouse, Digikey, Arrow, etc ... catalogues and find absolutly 
> nothing !!
> 
> I think I DO NOT use the correct WORD(s) for my search.
> 
> What are the "usual" words for the TWO items I describe ??

"FFC"/"FPC" and "FFC/FPC connector" possibly.  Are these the sort of things you 
mean?

https://uk.farnell.com/molex/15015-0423/cable-assy-23core-101-6mm-brown/dp/2096098?st=fpc

https://uk.farnell.com/te-connectivity/1-1734248-9/fpc-connector-receptacle-19-position/dp/1846686?st=fpc%20connector

p.



Re: HELP needed on a vocabulary problem ;-)

2019-03-18 Thread Raymond Wiker via cctalk
"zebra connector", perhaps?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:03 PM GerardCJAT via cctalk 
wrote:

> The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter.
> I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed circuit ( strip /
> ribbon /  what's the "correct" word ??? ) *** AND *** the associated
> connector
> I searched Mouse, Digikey, Arrow, etc ... catalogues and find absolutly
> nothing !!
>
> I think I DO NOT use the correct WORD(s) for my search.
>
> What are the "usual" words for the TWO items I describe ??
> Many thanks for your help, Guys
>


HELP needed on a vocabulary problem ;-)

2019-03-18 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter.
I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed circuit ( strip / ribbon /  
what's the "correct" word ??? ) *** AND *** the associated connector
I searched Mouse, Digikey, Arrow, etc ... catalogues and find absolutly nothing 
!!

I think I DO NOT use the correct WORD(s) for my search.

What are the "usual" words for the TWO items I describe ??
Many thanks for your help, Guys