Eyring PDOS - paging Camiel Vanderhoeven
I have a odd TMS9900 machine with floppy drives that would be interesting to get an operating system runnig on. The Eyring institute PDOS looks interesting and I have found a page describing it. https://www.vaxbarn.com/index.php/other-bits/105%20-pdos Unfortunately none of the download links works. I sent a few mails to Camiel but it seems like they might have ended up in the garbage folder so I am trying this public mail instead and hope that it gets through! I really appreciate if the links could be fixed so that I could download a copy. And source code for the boot ROM would be nice. Or is there someone else that have a copy of the manuals and the binaries? Thanks in advance! /Mattis
DIBOL manual
I recently picked up a copy of "CTS-300 - DIBOL Language Reference Manual" (because when I went to do a CHWiki page for the language: http://gunkies.org/wiki/DIBOL I could find almost nothing about it online); does anyone have enough of a use for this that I should put it in the high-priority scan list? Noel
Re: Eyring PDOS - paging Camiel Vanderhoeven
I was running it on a M68k VMEbus. Version PDOS/68020 R3.3a 20-Nov-87. I believe BitSavers or archive.org has some reference material Richard Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Re: DIBOL manual
On 10/13/19 10:35 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > I recently picked up a copy of "CTS-300 - DIBOL Language Reference Manual" > (because when I went to do a CHWiki page for the language: > > http://gunkies.org/wiki/DIBOL > > I could find almost nothing about it online); does anyone have enough of a use > for this that I should put it in the high-priority scan list? There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit. I suppose that the original idea was to get some sort of business HLL going on a PDP-8, but no COBOL programmer would recognize the language. --Chuck
Re: DIBOL manual
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers: > > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a company called MCBA. Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC DIBOL: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain the software. Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my infirmity. j
Re: DIBOL manual
If anybody still has a COS-3xx DIBOL system, I have two keys for the back doors :-) DF8 and DF32 cheers, Nigel Johnson On 13/10/2019 16:29, Jason T via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a company called MCBA. Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC DIBOL: http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain the software. Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my infirmity. j -- Nigel Johnson MSc., MIEEE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! You can reach me by voice on Skype: TILBURY2591 If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number of system administrators along the way. Nigel Johnson Please consider the environment when deciding if you really need to print this message
Re: DIBOL manual
> From: Chuck Guzis > Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit. OK, so I'll change it to "vaguely COBOL-like"... :-) Seriously, though, there some high-level similarities, and not just the purpose... Noel
Re: DIBOL manual
> On 13 Oct 2019, at 21:36, Nigel Johnson via cctalk > wrote: > > If anybody still has a COS-3xx DIBOL system, I have two keys for the back > doors :-) DF8 and DF32 > > cheers, > > Nigel Johnson I have 2, assuming they both still work. I spent over 10 years as a DIBOL programmer before the unreasonable demands of people who didn’t understand coding and software development took their toll and I moved into Failed Circus. I’m hoping my MicroPDP 11/73 is complete because it’s a microcosm of my dev environment from the 80s into the early 90s. -- Adrian Graham Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection? t: @binarydinosaursf: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk
Re: DIBOL manual
On 10/13/19 1:29 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers: >> >> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf > > A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a > company called MCBA. Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC > DIBOL: > > http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA > > Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain > the software. Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my > infirmity. Yup, I remember those. At one time, Diablo Systems was going to use those on its "Merchant" project and had even worked out a DIBOL for the Intel 8080. Later MCBA re-wrote the applications in DG Nova BASIC (IIRC). At Durango, we picked those up, wrote our own multi-user BASIC for the 8085 and 'ported the MCBA apps (AP, AL, GL, Payroll and Inventory) to our own system. Later, we ported our BASIC to Xenix and ran the same application on an 80286/80186 multi-terminal box. I still have the source code for those. --Chuck Sent from my digital computer
Re: DIBOL manual
On 10/13/19 2:46 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > From: Chuck Guzis > > > Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit. > > OK, so I'll change it to "vaguely COBOL-like"... :-) > > Seriously, though, there some high-level similarities, and not just > the purpose... One could argue that it's just as similar to FORTRAN (cf. computed GOTO and logical IF statements). Where it differs mainly from FORTRAN of the times is a facility for record layout, which didn't come along in FORTRAN for a couple of decades. (I'm trying to recall if it was part of F90). --Chuck
Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale
WAREHOUSE LIQUIDATION UPDATE: I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006. It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7 Buyer must pick up all three cabinets and the Teletype. Best offer will be accepted. Thomas Raguso
Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale
Whereabouts is this located? When does it need to be picked up by? Thanks, Josh On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 6:02 PM Thomas Raguso via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > WAREHOUSE LIQUIDATION UPDATE: > > I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three > cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled > with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006. > It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and > one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared > pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7 > > Buyer must pick up all three cabinets and the Teletype. Best offer will be > accepted. > > Thomas Raguso >
Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale
Thomas said > I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three > cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled > with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006. > It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and > one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared > pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link. > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7 The Digitronics paper tape reader in it is same as the PDP-7 reader, and only a very tiny cosmetic change from the Foxboro FOX-2 reader. Seeing the shiny bit on the output side I'm guessing there should be the two brushed stainless steel hoppers with six-sided front cutouts for the input and output, is anything like this around? Steve.
Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale
The paper tape reader has a spool on the right side, and there is also a basket that hangs downward (not pictured). The screws that protrude outwards are to hang the basket. I did not see any evidence that the machine had the hoppers you described. Thomas Raguso On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 20:31 wrote: > Thomas said > > I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three > > cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled > > with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006. > > It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, > and > > one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared > > pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following > link. > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7 > > The Digitronics paper tape reader in it is same as the PDP-7 reader, and > only a very tiny > cosmetic change from the Foxboro FOX-2 reader. Seeing the shiny bit on the > output side > I'm guessing there should be the two brushed stainless steel hoppers with > six-sided front > cutouts for the input and output, is anything like this around? > > Steve. > >
SEL mainframe
I think this is the guy who has the warehouse full of crap in Texas that was going to be scrapped, but now has its own facebook group. If you find and join the group, there are photos of it there. https://www.facebook.com/groups/433516373950693/ Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation (Houston) thanks Jim
Re: SEL mainframe
Thanks. I made an offer, I probably can't afford what he wants though, given the shipping involved. How you doing these days? - Josh On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:00 PM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I think this is the guy who has the warehouse full of crap in Texas that > was going to be scrapped, but now has its own facebook group. > > If you find and join the group, there are photos of it there. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/433516373950693/ > > Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation (Houston) > > thanks > Jim > >
Re: DIBOL manual
In 1981-1987 i worked for a company that used the MCBA system subroutines to develop a system to do trust plan administration for labor unions. Mostly it was remote data entry by the unions themselves over leased lines using black box modems. The MCBA routines were pretty clever and solid. The screen routines used vt100 escape sequences to make "fill in" fields which then could be made to resemble a form. It ran on pdp 11/70. In 1982 we converted it to run on a VAX 780. Hardest part was converting from (i think) DMS 11 ( i think that was what the file system was called) to RMS. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2019, at 13:30, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers: >> >> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf > > A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a > company called MCBA. Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC > DIBOL: > > http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA > > Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain > the software. Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my > infirmity. > > j
qubex qa2000 disk tester
Is anyone here familiar with this disk tester? I'm actually looking for the operators manual or even better/more unlikely a service manual. I found this while digging through some of the "stuff" I've accumulated over the past 40 years or so. Marvin