Eyring PDOS - paging Camiel Vanderhoeven

2019-10-13 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
I have a odd TMS9900 machine with floppy drives that would be interesting
to get an operating system runnig on. The Eyring institute PDOS looks
interesting and I have found a page describing it.
https://www.vaxbarn.com/index.php/other-bits/105%20-pdos Unfortunately none
of the download links works.

I sent a few mails to Camiel but it seems like they might have ended up in
the garbage folder so I am trying this public mail instead and hope that it
gets through!

I really appreciate if the links could be fixed so that I could download a
copy. And source code for the boot ROM would be nice.

Or is there someone else that have a copy of the manuals and the binaries?

Thanks in advance!

/Mattis


DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
I recently picked up a copy of "CTS-300 - DIBOL Language Reference Manual"
(because when I went to do a CHWiki page for the language:

  http://gunkies.org/wiki/DIBOL

I could find almost nothing about it online); does anyone have enough of a use
for this that I should put it in the high-priority scan list?

Noel



Re: Eyring PDOS - paging Camiel Vanderhoeven

2019-10-13 Thread Richard Sheppard via cctalk
I was running it on a M68k VMEbus. Version PDOS/68020 R3.3a 20-Nov-87. I 
believe BitSavers or archive.org has some reference material

Richard

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/13/19 10:35 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> I recently picked up a copy of "CTS-300 - DIBOL Language Reference Manual"
> (because when I went to do a CHWiki page for the language:
> 
>   http://gunkies.org/wiki/DIBOL
> 
> I could find almost nothing about it online); does anyone have enough of a use
> for this that I should put it in the high-priority scan list?

There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers:

http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf

Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit.  I suppose
that the original idea was to get some sort of business HLL going on a
PDP-8, but no COBOL programmer would recognize the language.

--Chuck



Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:
> There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers:
>
> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf

A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a
company called MCBA.  Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC
DIBOL:

http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA

Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain
the software.  Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my
infirmity.

j


Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
If anybody still has a COS-3xx DIBOL system, I have two keys for the 
back doors :-) DF8 and DF32


cheers,

Nigel Johnson


On 13/10/2019 16:29, Jason T via cctalk wrote:

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:

There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers:

http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf

A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a
company called MCBA.  Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC
DIBOL:

http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA

Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain
the software.  Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my
infirmity.

j


 


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Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Chuck Guzis

> Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit. 

OK, so I'll change it to "vaguely COBOL-like"... :-)

Seriously, though, there some high-level similarities, and not just
the purpose...

Noel


Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk


> On 13 Oct 2019, at 21:36, Nigel Johnson via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> If anybody still has a COS-3xx DIBOL system, I have two keys for the back 
> doors :-) DF8 and DF32
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Nigel Johnson

I have 2, assuming they both still work. I spent over 10 years as a DIBOL 
programmer before the unreasonable demands of people who didn’t understand 
coding and software development took their toll and I moved into Failed Circus. 
I’m hoping my MicroPDP 11/73 is complete because it’s a microcosm of my dev 
environment from the 80s into the early 90s.

-- 
Adrian Graham
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection?
t: @binarydinosaursf: facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
w: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk







Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/13/19 1:29 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers:
>>
>> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf
> 
> A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a
> company called MCBA.  Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC
> DIBOL:
> 
> http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA
> 
> Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain
> the software.  Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my
> infirmity.

Yup, I remember those.   At one time, Diablo Systems was going to use
those on its "Merchant" project and had even worked out a DIBOL for the
Intel 8080.

Later MCBA re-wrote the applications in DG Nova BASIC (IIRC).  At
Durango, we picked those up, wrote our own multi-user BASIC for the 8085
and 'ported the MCBA apps (AP, AL, GL, Payroll and Inventory) to our own
system.  Later, we ported our BASIC to Xenix and ran the same
application on an 80286/80186 multi-terminal box.

I still have the source code for those.

--Chuck

Sent from my digital computer


Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/13/19 2:46 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Chuck Guzis
> 
> > Calling DIBOL "COBOL-like" is stretching things quite a bit. 
> 
> OK, so I'll change it to "vaguely COBOL-like"... :-)
> 
> Seriously, though, there some high-level similarities, and not just
> the purpose...

One could argue that it's just as similar to FORTRAN (cf. computed GOTO
and logical IF statements).  Where it differs mainly from FORTRAN of the
times is a facility for record layout, which didn't come along in
FORTRAN for a couple of decades.  (I'm trying to recall if it was part
of F90).


--Chuck



Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale

2019-10-13 Thread Thomas Raguso via cctalk
WAREHOUSE LIQUIDATION UPDATE:

I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three
cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled
with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006.
It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and
one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared
pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7

Buyer must pick up all three cabinets and the Teletype. Best offer will be
accepted.

Thomas Raguso


Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale

2019-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Whereabouts is this located?  When does it need to be picked up by?

Thanks,
Josh

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 6:02 PM Thomas Raguso via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> WAREHOUSE LIQUIDATION UPDATE:
>
> I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three
> cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled
> with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006.
> It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and
> one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared
> pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7
>
> Buyer must pick up all three cabinets and the Teletype. Best offer will be
> accepted.
>
> Thomas Raguso
>


Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale

2019-10-13 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Thomas said
> I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three
> cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled
> with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006.
> It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights, and
> one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared
> pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following link.

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7

The Digitronics paper tape reader in it is same as the PDP-7 reader, and only a 
very tiny
cosmetic change from the Foxboro FOX-2 reader. Seeing the shiny bit on the 
output side
I'm guessing there should be the two brushed stainless steel hoppers with 
six-sided front
cutouts for the input and output, is anything like this around?

Steve.



Re: Systems Engineering Laboratories SEL 810a Mainframe For Sale

2019-10-13 Thread Thomas Raguso via cctalk
The paper tape reader has a spool on the right side, and there is also a
basket that hangs downward (not pictured). The screws that protrude
outwards are to hang the basket. I did not see any evidence that the
machine had the hoppers you described.

Thomas Raguso

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 20:31  wrote:

> Thomas said
> > I am taking offers on an SEL 810a mainframe computer. It includes three
> > cabinets, a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as well as a vintage wooden box filled
> > with spare cards. This machine was installed in 1969 and retired in 2006.
> > It is in excellent condition. It has a front panel with blinkenlights,
> and
> > one of the cabinets has a Nixie tube numerical display. I have shared
> > pictures of the main cabinet and the spare parts box at the following
> link.
>
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ebc3Aj5zmgXjFosR7
>
> The Digitronics paper tape reader in it is same as the PDP-7 reader, and
> only a very tiny
> cosmetic change from the Foxboro FOX-2 reader. Seeing the shiny bit on the
> output side
> I'm guessing there should be the two brushed stainless steel hoppers with
> six-sided front
> cutouts for the input and output, is anything like this around?
>
> Steve.
>
>


SEL mainframe

2019-10-13 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
I think this is the guy who has the warehouse full of crap in Texas that 
was going to be scrapped, but now has its own facebook group.


If you find and join the group, there are photos of it there.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/433516373950693/

Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation (Houston)

thanks
Jim



Re: SEL mainframe

2019-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Thanks.  I made an offer, I probably can't afford what he wants though,
given the shipping involved.

How you doing these days?

- Josh


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:00 PM jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I think this is the guy who has the warehouse full of crap in Texas that
> was going to be scrapped, but now has its own facebook group.
>
> If you find and join the group, there are photos of it there.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/433516373950693/
>
> Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation (Houston)
>
> thanks
> Jim
>
>


Re: DIBOL manual

2019-10-13 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
In 1981-1987 i worked for a company that used the MCBA system subroutines to 
develop a system to do trust plan administration for labor unions. Mostly it 
was remote data entry by the unions themselves over leased lines using black 
box modems. The MCBA routines were pretty clever and solid. The screen routines 
used vt100 escape sequences to make "fill in" fields which then could be made 
to resemble a form.
It ran on pdp 11/70. In 1982 we converted it to run on  a VAX 780. Hardest part 
was converting from (i think) DMS 11 ( i think that was what the file system 
was called) to RMS.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 13:30, Jason T via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:47 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> There's a DIBOL self-instruction book on bitsavers:
>> 
>> http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp8/dibol/DEC-08-WDRA-D_DIBOL_Programming_A_Self-Instruction_Manual_Sep1970.pdf
> 
> A few years ago I scanned a bunch of application manuals from a
> company called MCBA.  Most of the apps are written in (or for) DEC
> DIBOL:
> 
> http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing%2FMCBA
> 
> Somewhere I've got piles of 9-tracks tapes that most likely contain
> the software.  Maybe they'll be recovered some time before my
> infirmity.
> 
> j


qubex qa2000 disk tester

2019-10-13 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Is anyone here familiar with this disk tester? I'm actually looking for 
the operators manual or even better/more unlikely a service manual.


I found this while digging through some of the "stuff" I've accumulated 
over the past 40 years or so.


Marvin