Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
> On Oct 18, 2019, at 9:03 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:41:51PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: >> where as back then you made notes and paper printouts of your code >> that got archived in a back room. > > Until the University decided to throw it all out to use the space > for their new Department of Basket Weaving. Reported that sort of thing is just what happened with the hand-written complete source code of the world's first ALGOL compiler -- the notebook was tossed during an office move or the like because no one present realized what it was. paul
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 03:41:51PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: > where as back then you made notes and paper printouts of your code > that got archived in a back room. Until the University decided to throw it all out to use the space for their new Department of Basket Weaving. fwiw, at one time I had a large set of G-15 paper tapes (including the diagnostics). Got left behind in a move because I was tired. mcl
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 02:56:36PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > fsck off While we appreciate your efforts, you're only one guy, and I think you would have to agree that bits are vanishing faster than any one person can keep up. mcl
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019, 3:29 PM SPC via cctalk wrote: > El vie., 18 oct. 2019 a las 23:26, Paul Koning via cctalk (< > cctalk@classiccmp.org>) escribió: > > > Neat. I remember seeing a PDP-7 at DECUS as part of a display honoring > > the early history of Unix. It wasn't running, unfortunately, but it > looked > > like a complete machine. That was in The Hague, in the 1980s. > > > > Does this run on SIMH? That has PDP-7 emulation. > > > > Yeah. For years, in fact. It even runs a reconstructed version of UNIX v1. > The pdp7 code was reconstructed from 1/2 of the sources. Volume 2 was just found and work is underway to transcribe and debug it. Warner Regards > Sergio >
Re: Free to a good home: Honeywell/Bull DPS-6 workstation / server (Seattle, WA)
> On Oct 18, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > for anyone who got this from Josh > Jim Stephens loaned me a huge stash of documentation that I've been uploading > to > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/honeywell/series60level6/ Any chance you have any DPS-8 or GCOS-8 documentation to upload. I stupidly sent mine North, and now I really regret that. Zane
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
On 10/18/19 2:41 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > any kind of archving seems go into the *cloud* and vanish from > the face of the earth fsck off
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
On 10/18/2019 1:36 PM, Thomas Dzubin via cctalk wrote: I don't have a PDP-7 to try it out on, but here it is: https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-earliest-unix-code-an-anniversary-source-code-release/ and https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2019/09/102785108-05-001-acc.pdf Enjoy! -- Thomas Dzubin Saskatoon, Calgary, or Vancouver CANADA What!? No paper tape! I wonder if we are better off today than back then, since any kind of archving seems go into the *cloud* and vanish from the face of the earth,where as back then you made notes and paper printouts of your code that got archived in a back room. Ben.
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
El vie., 18 oct. 2019 a las 23:26, Paul Koning via cctalk (< cctalk@classiccmp.org>) escribió: > Neat. I remember seeing a PDP-7 at DECUS as part of a display honoring > the early history of Unix. It wasn't running, unfortunately, but it looked > like a complete machine. That was in The Hague, in the 1980s. > > Does this run on SIMH? That has PDP-7 emulation. > Yeah. For years, in fact. It even runs a reconstructed version of UNIX v1. Regards Sergio
Re: Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
Neat. I remember seeing a PDP-7 at DECUS as part of a display honoring the early history of Unix. It wasn't running, unfortunately, but it looked like a complete machine. That was in The Hague, in the 1980s. Does this run on SIMH? That has PDP-7 emulation. paul > On Oct 18, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Thomas Dzubin via cctalk > wrote: > > I don't have a PDP-7 to try it out on, but here it is: > > https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-earliest-unix-code-an-anniversary-source-code-release/ > > and > > https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2019/09/102785108-05-001-acc.pdf > > Enjoy! > > -- > Thomas Dzubin > Saskatoon, Calgary, or Vancouver CANADA >
Re: Looking for DEC RA80 (or RM80, R80) service manual (EK-ORA80-SV or similar)
On 18/10/2019 05:51, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: (I should also note that there is an R80 service manual on Bitsavers -- I misspoke (mistyped?) in my initial e-mail. It doesn't provide a lot of details on the drive's operation and I was hoping the RA80 or RM80 manuals might be more detailed...) I'm guessing you mean AA-M186B-TC "RA80 Maintenance Guide", but if not, that's there. (Assuming I've not mis-typed something, I seem to have a later version, AA-M186C-TC, but I've not scanned that). Someone else was looking 10 years ago: https://alt.sys.pdp11.narkive.com/gXk9CvKT/looking-for-ra80-service-manual-ek-ora80-sv but seemingly with no luck. I think the FMPS must be on bitsavers but I hit this first: https://usermanual.wiki/Document/MP01286RA80Mar82.3622064137 Antonio -- Antonio Carlini anto...@acarlini.com
Re: Free to a good home: Honeywell/Bull DPS-6 workstation / server (Seattle, WA)
for anyone who got this from Josh Jim Stephens loaned me a huge stash of documentation that I've been uploading to http://bitsavers.org/pdf/honeywell/series60level6/ On 1/22/16 10:35 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Hi all -- > > I picked this DPS-6 up over the summer and it's just taking up space (quite a > bit of space) in the corner of my > basement. This is a custom 16-bit, bitsliced, microcoded CPU from the early > 80s with (I believe) 8mb of memory, and > ethernet. It would originally have run a version of GCOS. It's about the > size of a large-ish minifridge, but a bit > deeper. It's also quite heavy! > > It's a neat machine, but it's very obscure and unfortunately incomplete (it > is missing both mass storage and storage > controllers). Otherwise, it is complete and in good condition (albeit a bit > dirty). So you can see why you'd really > want to have it in your collection . > > If anyone's up for a project, drop me a line. Local pick up in Seattle, WA. > > Thanks, > Josh >
Unix v2 in PDP-7 assembly language
I don't have a PDP-7 to try it out on, but here it is: https://computerhistory.org/blog/the-earliest-unix-code-an-anniversary-source-code-release/ and https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/2019/09/102785108-05-001-acc.pdf Enjoy! -- Thomas Dzubin Saskatoon, Calgary, or Vancouver CANADA
Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 17
On 10/18/19 12:06 PM, Dr Iain Maoileoin via cctalk wrote: > > Chuck, I am Scottish, I have never been to Berkeley! I just cant remember > the history. I remember playing the game with a bunch of post-graduates. > I was either a post-grad or perhaps an early lecturer in the Uni. That > places it square in the mid-80s.I did spend most of my time researching. > The games would have appeared on tapes from other places….. I am hunting > around amongst the post-grads to see if any of them can tell me > where it came from. > > I knew the game as “search” in that that is what you typed in to start it. > To keep the undergrads out if it we had to put both passwords and time-locks > in > the code…. Well, how about a phrase that you can recall? I can see if it crops up in my archives. --Chuck
Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 17
Paul - I had a quick look at PLATO. I dont think it was like that. In this game when you set a movement direction and velocity you moved through the universe in that direction “forever”. There was not concept of “moves” or “turns”, it was very dynamic. Spasim looks much closer - but was that “vector graphics”? The game I was using was just 24 x 80 characters. For the year and the WYSE terminals (etc) it was great. > > I wonder if this is a port of the PLATO game by the same name, which goes > back to 1976 or so. PLATO had lots of multi-user games with various levels > of graphics sophistication. Space war games included "conquest", "empire", > and "spasim" -- that last actually had 3d graphics, which was quite a stretch > for 1977. Then there was "airfight" (the inspiration for Microsoft Flight > Simulator) as well as a boatload of "dungeon & dragons" games. > > paul > -- > > Was it in use at Berkeley? I might have it stashed away in some of my > BSD-related tapes. > Chuck, I am Scottish, I have never been to Berkeley! I just cant remember the history. I remember playing the game with a bunch of post-graduates. I was either a post-grad or perhaps an early lecturer in the Uni. That places it square in the mid-80s.I did spend most of my time researching. The games would have appeared on tapes from other places….. I am hunting around amongst the post-grads to see if any of them can tell me where it came from. I knew the game as “search” in that that is what you typed in to start it. To keep the undergrads out if it we had to put both passwords and time-locks in the code…. Iain > --Chuck
