Re: IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) and AIX 3.2.5

2020-01-03 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:39 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I have an IBM RS/6000 POWERstation 320 (original 7012-320) with plenty of RAM 
> and SCSI storage. I’d like to install AIX 3.2.5 on it.
>
> The CD images appear to be ISO-9660 format, containing piles of “AIX 
> backup/restore format file” archives; the floppy images are also identified 
> as being that format (no filesystems, just archive content). I’ve seen some 
> stuff online that talks about installing from tape using DAT, so it seems 
> like in theory I should be able to just push the CD contents to a tape and go.
>
> Can I use the 3.2.0 boot floppy images with a couple of DDS-1 tapes 
> containing the files from the 3.2.5 CDs to directly install AIX 3.2.5? In 
> what order should the files be put on the tapes? Or do I really need to do a 
> complete install of 3.2.0 first?
>
> Another important question: Will I need some sort of key to use the included 
> AIXwindows and xlc, or should this stuff just work?
>
> Finally, is there a complete set of post-release patches for AIX 3.2.5 online 
> somewhere? I know 3.2.5 itself was primarily a patch roll-up release, I 
> assume that with Y2K remediation and other bug fixes in the mid- and 
> late-2000s there were a few additional patches released over time.
>

When I had 7012-320 systems over 10 years ago I installed AIX 3.2.5
from a set of 6 DC6150 QIC tape images that I got from R. Stricklin (
http://www.typewritten.org/Software/ ). I don't remember needing to
use any boot floppies. As far as I can remember I just booted directly
from the first AIX 3.2.5 installation tape in an external QIC drive.

I vaguely remember getting a bunch of update patches for AIX 3.2.5.
Not sure whether I ever bothered trying to install them. I also don't
remember if I got those patches directly from R. Stricklin, or if he
pointed me to some archive site, maybe somewhere at MIT, where I
downloaded them at the time.

I had some form of X11 running at the time without any issues that I
can remember to get it going. Don't remember if that was the native
AIXwindows. Pretty sure I got to experience everyone's favorite the
SMIT "Running Man".

All too long ago now for systems that I never really used much between
the time I collected them and the time I recycled them.


Re: IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

2020-01-03 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:39 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a spare internal or external SCSI cable for the IBM RS/6000 
> Model 320 with the IBM MCA SCSI-1 card (3-1)? For those who don’t 
> know/remember, this card uses a pair of edge connectors (like MFM/ESDI) 
> rather than an IDC connector to connect to its internal two-drop cable, and 
> its external connector is a **sixty-pin** higher-density Centronics connector.
>

I had (2x) 7012-320 20MHz and (1x) 7012-320H 25MHz desktop systems
over 10 years ago that I couldn't give away locally. I ended up taking
them to a local PC recycler.

I don't have any internal SCSI cables left from those systems. I do
still have a 70F9733 5-foot external SCSI cable that has the weird
60-pin connector on the system end, and the weird pass-thru normal
50-pin connector on the device end. I haven't had any use for that
70F9733 SCSI cable since I got rid of those systems.

The device end is weird because it could plug into the deep recessed
connector on the external SCSI tape or CD-ROM drive, which only had a
single connector, and then either a terminator or another cable could
be chained onto the second pass-thru connector on the cable device end
plug.


IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone have a spare internal or external SCSI cable for the IBM RS/6000 
Model 320 with the IBM MCA SCSI-1 card (3-1)? For those who don’t 
know/remember, this card uses a pair of edge connectors (like MFM/ESDI) rather 
than an IDC connector to connect to its internal two-drop cable, and its 
external connector is a **sixty-pin** higher-density Centronics connector.

I can make an IDC cable adapter pretty easily but if anyone knows where to 
acquire working original cables, that’d be preferable to my relative lack of 
mechanical skill.

  -- Chris



IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) and AIX 3.2.5

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I have an IBM RS/6000 POWERstation 320 (original 7012-320) with plenty of RAM 
and SCSI storage. I’d like to install AIX 3.2.5 on it.

Here’s the hardware setup:

- POWERstation 320
  - 8MB RAM currently, soon to be 72MB
- Serial port adapter so I can use a terminal
- Correct IBM keyboard (not working at the moment, hence the terminal)
- Correct IBM mouse
- MCA Color Display Adapter (1-1)
- MCA Ethernet Adapter (2-1)
- MCA SCSI-1 Adapter (4-1)
- AIX 3.2.0 floppy images, including boot floppy images
- AIX 3.2.5 CD-ROM images
- External SCSI DAT (DDS-1) and CD-ROM drives

The CD images appear to be ISO-9660 format, containing piles of “AIX 
backup/restore format file” archives; the floppy images are also identified as 
being that format (no filesystems, just archive content). I’ve seen some stuff 
online that talks about installing from tape using DAT, so it seems like in 
theory I should be able to just push the CD contents to a tape and go.

Can I use the 3.2.0 boot floppy images with a couple of DDS-1 tapes containing 
the files from the 3.2.5 CDs to directly install AIX 3.2.5? In what order 
should the files be put on the tapes? Or do I really need to do a complete 
install of 3.2.0 first?

Another important question: Will I need some sort of key to use the included 
AIXwindows and xlc, or should this stuff just work?

Finally, is there a complete set of post-release patches for AIX 3.2.5 online 
somewhere? I know 3.2.5 itself was primarily a patch roll-up release, I assume 
that with Y2K remediation and other bug fixes in the mid- and late-2000s there 
were a few additional patches released over time.

  -- Chris



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 1/3/20 7:07 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/3/20 4:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/20 1:39 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>>
>>> I've got a couple of the drives for those cards somewhere in case someone 
>>> needs/wants one; rollers to feed the card in and out and a solenoid ratchet 
>>> to move the head across track-to-track. Wonder if you could build an 
>>> 80-column card reader out of one... ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Is the on-card format documented anywhere?
>>
>>
> 
> Turns out there is a bit of info in the office system 6 CE manual I just got
> They have 50 tracks and have a dummy character to align the card when loaded
> 
> 

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/5520/GC23-0702-3_IBM_5520_Administrative_System_Introduction_Nov81.pdf
page 3-17 5321 mag card unit
50 tracks, 100 characters / track



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 1/3/20 4:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/3/20 1:39 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
> 
>> I've got a couple of the drives for those cards somewhere in case someone 
>> needs/wants one; rollers to feed the card in and out and a solenoid ratchet 
>> to move the head across track-to-track. Wonder if you could build an 
>> 80-column card reader out of one... ;-)
>>
> 
> Is the on-card format documented anywhere?
> 
> 

Turns out there is a bit of info in the office system 6 CE manual I just got
They have 50 tracks and have a dummy character to align the card when loaded




Re: Corvus Concept

2020-01-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 1/3/20 3:34 PM, Curt Vendel via cctalk wrote:

> Anyone on the list have one that they might consider selling/trading for?

I have a couple now, make me an offer.
I tried emailing directly, but the atarimuseum.com adr bounced.




Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 1/3/20 1:39 PM, Mike Stein wrote:

> I've got a couple of the drives for those cards somewhere in case someone 
> needs/wants one; rollers to feed the card in and out and a solenoid ratchet 
> to move the head across track-to-track. Wonder if you could build an 
> 80-column card reader out of one... ;-)
>

Is the on-card format documented anywhere?




Corvus Concept

2020-01-03 Thread Curt Vendel via cctalk
Hi everyone,

Happy New Years...


Got into a convo with a local friend regarding Concepts.  I sold mine nearly 15 
years ago to Al Kossow and regretted it ever since. (Nothing to do with Al, 
he’s a great guy... just regret selling it)

Anyone on the list have one that they might consider selling/trading for?

Thanks,
Curt



Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie

2020-01-03 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk


- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Guzis via cctalk" 
To: "Paul Berger via cctalk" 
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie


> On 1/3/20 5:22 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
>  
>> 
>> Rural delivery is done to mail boxes along the roads, which means the
>> people have to travel from their house to said road to get their mail. 
>> We lived on a farm for part of the time I was growing up and for us that
>> was 3/4 of a mile, and that was not uncommon in the area, for some it
>> was even further. Quite different from walking a block, maybe, to a
>> community box.
> 
> That's no different from where I live (US), though my mailbox is only
> about 250 ft. from my house. Packages are delivered to the front door.
> 
> Not a big deal.
> 
> --Chuck
>
-
Canada Post has a little-publicised service called "FlexDelivery", very useful 
for foiling 'Porch Pirates' who follow the trucks and steal those packages left 
at your front door.

Regardless of whether you have your mail delivered to your door or a community 
mailbox you can register for a special free 'virtual' post box address where 
they will email you when a *parcel* arrives and hold it for two weeks for you 
to pick up.

m


Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - 
From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)


> 
> 
> On 1/3/20 1:46 AM, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
>> I think these are pretty rare.
> 
> They were sold by many office supply companies as consumables for the MCST
> I bought a box a while ago on eBay, don't see any right now though.
> 
---

I've got a couple of the drives for those cards somewhere in case someone 
needs/wants one; rollers to feed the card in and out and a solenoid ratchet to 
move the head across track-to-track. Wonder if you could build an 80-column 
card reader out of one... ;-)

Only have one card though ;-)

m



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk





I used a Model B Executive for a few years as my office typewriter.
Superb text quality; good enough for publication.  They were available
in several type styles and sizes.  Can easily be distinguished by the
split space bar.

There also was a version of the tape station for the MT/ST that could be
used as a S/370 peripheral.  Probably not very common.

--Chuck

Probably the oddest machine I ever saw with a typewriter on it was a 
machine with a card reader and I think a model A  connected to it and it 
would type out what was punched into the cards.   I was told there was a 
companion machine that would punch cards with what you typed on the 
typewriter.  The flexowriter have a common ancestor to the IBM typebar 
electrics, IBM sold what became flexowriter because of antitrust concerns.


Paul.



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/3/20 12:50 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
> The magcard selectric was capable of a lot of basic word processing
> functions as could the MT/ST before it.  One function it was really
> useful for was creating personalized form letters. The body of the
> letter could be stored and personalizations filled in as it printed. 
> The MT/ST and magcard also had a model with a composer version of the
> selectric connected.  The composer version had an escapement mechanism
> that could do proportional spacing, this mechanism was complicated and
> from what OP technician told me tricky to adjust, and it didn't help
> that customer using composers where very picky about the print quality
> as composers where often use to prepare copy for printing.  I have also
> seen selectric mechanisms that used a lead screw to move the print head
> which would be an easier way to implement proportional spacing. Watching
> a video of an electronic composer typing suggests it may have used this
> mechanism as the carriage motion looks smoother that what you get with
> an escapement rack.    There was also a version of magcard machine that
> had a IBM Executive type bar typewriter attached, the Executive also did
> proportional spacing. There was also a selectric called the "Memory
> Typewriter" that could store documents on a wide loop of tape the was
> inside a slightly enlarged selectic.  The last version of the magcard
> machines where equipped with a daisy wheel printer in place of a selectric.

I used a Model B Executive for a few years as my office typewriter.
Superb text quality; good enough for publication.  They were available
in several type styles and sizes.  Can easily be distinguished by the
split space bar.

There also was a version of the tape station for the MT/ST that could be
used as a S/370 peripheral.  Probably not very common.

--Chuck



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk



On 2020-01-03 12:46 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 1/3/20 1:46 AM, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:

A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM
"Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )


The English-language name was "Composer".  This was preceded by the very
similar-looking MT/ST, which used a small magnetic tape cartridge in an
external unit that looked very much like the card reader on the Composer.

--Chuck

The composer was a special version of selectric that did proportional 
spacing, often used for producing copy for printing. The original 
composer was all mechanical including the variable spacing later ones 
where electronic.


Paul.



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
The magcard selectric was capable of a lot of basic word processing 
functions as could the MT/ST before it.  One function it was really 
useful for was creating personalized form letters. The body of the 
letter could be stored and personalizations filled in as it printed.  
The MT/ST and magcard also had a model with a composer version of the 
selectric connected.  The composer version had an escapement mechanism 
that could do proportional spacing, this mechanism was complicated and 
from what OP technician told me tricky to adjust, and it didn't help 
that customer using composers where very picky about the print quality 
as composers where often use to prepare copy for printing.  I have also 
seen selectric mechanisms that used a lead screw to move the print head 
which would be an easier way to implement proportional spacing. Watching 
a video of an electronic composer typing suggests it may have used this 
mechanism as the carriage motion looks smoother that what you get with 
an escapement rack.    There was also a version of magcard machine that 
had a IBM Executive type bar typewriter attached, the Executive also did 
proportional spacing. There was also a selectric called the "Memory 
Typewriter" that could store documents on a wide loop of tape the was 
inside a slightly enlarged selectic.  The last version of the magcard 
machines where equipped with a daisy wheel printer in place of a selectric.


Paul.

On 2020-01-03 7:51 a.m., Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:


Huh, that's a coincidence. Going through a recent bequeathment to the 
Australian Computer Museum Society,
I'd just yesterday opened a box with manuals, some cards, and other bits for 
the same system.
See pic, with manual cover illustration of the system.

It was IBM trying to produce a word processor and email, before the technology 
was really up to it.
You typed onto paper, with backspacing and overtyping to get it right, then 
saved to the mag card.
That could be read back and printed out, to get a clean copy. Then you could 
snail mail the mag card
to someone with another machine. Or just post the printed letter I suppose, but 
how old fashioned!
A lease document with the set shows that in 1981 the price was $5000 (AU). Or 
leased over 48 months,
total rent of $6682.

My job now is to find out what happened to the actual machine, since the 
contents list says it's
present, but it isn't.

Fun fact: according to the listing the modified selectric typewriter (heavy) 
and the magcard 82 processor
(cabinet in the photo, supposedly about 50 Kg) are linked by a "non-plugged 
cable". Brilliant.

Guy



At 10:46 AM 3/01/2020 +0100, you wrote:

A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM
"Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )

They seems in medium state, at least,  but I think these are pretty
rare. So, if somebody is interested .

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/gro%C3%9Frechner-wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger-magnetkarten/184107517064?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


VCF PNW 2020: Exhibitors, volunteers and speakers needed!

2020-01-03 Thread Michael Brutman via cctalk
What: Vintage Computer Festival Pacific Northwest 2020
When: Saturday March 21st and Sunday March 22nd
Where: Living Computers:Museum+Labs in Seattle, Washington.
Web site: http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw

Why … So you can share your favorite old computers and projects in person
with like-minded others for two full days at a great venue.  This is one of
the many ways we celebrate computing history while reaching out to a larger
audience, and hopefully inspiring others.

As of this writing we have seven exhibitors, three speakers, and a handful
of volunteers signed up.  We are looking for 20 to 25 exhibitors in total,
another speaker or two, and a few more volunteers.  While returning
exhibits are welcome, we want to encourage first-timers to step up and try
it out.  (It is fun and rewarding!)

If you know that you can bring an exhibit please look at
http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw/exhibitor-registration and then fill in the
registration form.  (Potential volunteers and speakers - send me an email
instead, as there is no form.)  If you are “on the fence” or just have
questions please send me an email and I will get things sorted out for
you.  The registration deadline is January 31st but if you know you can
commit now it will make project planning easier.

A description of the event can be found at http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw .
General information for exhibitors including links to pictures from last
year, a link to the registration form, and a FAQ can be found at
http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw/exhibitor-registration .  Feel free to email me
with questions.

Thanks,
Mike

mbbrut...@brutman.com or mich...@vcfed.org


PS: Not exhibiting at the event but interested in unloading some tonnage?
We're doing a consignment area again and that is open to everybody.  Now is
a good time to start cleaning and testing things that you might want to
sell.  You bring your treasures and we’ll bring the buyers.  Check
http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw/consignment/ for details.


Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 1/3/20 1:46 AM, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
> I think these are pretty rare.

They were sold by many office supply companies as consumables for the MCST
I bought a box a while ago on eBay, don't see any right now though.







Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie

2020-01-03 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 09:22 -0400, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
> On 2020-01-03 2:51 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>   On 2020-01-02 9:58 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
>   >Well, Canada Post stopped delivering to individual >houses years
> ago.
> I assume that rural delivery still goes house-to-house.
> --Chuck   
> Rural delivery is done to mail boxes along the roads, which means the
> people have to travel from their house to said road to get their
> mail.  We lived on a farm for part of the time I was growing up and
> for us that was 3/4 of a mile, and that was not uncommon in the area,
> for some it was even further.  Quite different from walking a block,
> maybe, to a community box.
> 
> 
> 
Yea, our bank of mailboxes is 2.5 miles from our house.  We got intoheated 
arguments with the Post Office because we didn't go down and emptyour box every 
day.  We finally got a P.O Box at a different (more convenient)Post Office.  
Now we have to deal with folks who don't understand that ourmailing address and 
physical address are different.  :-/
It also infuriates me that *every* other shipper (UPS, FedEx) can deliverright 
to our door but USPS can't be bothered.
-- 
TTFN - Guy


Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/3/20 1:46 AM, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
> A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM
> "Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )
> 

The English-language name was "Composer".  This was preceded by the very
similar-looking MT/ST, which used a small magnetic tape cartridge in an
external unit that looked very much like the card reader on the Composer.

--Chuck



Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie

2020-01-03 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/3/20 5:22 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
    
> 
> Rural delivery is done to mail boxes along the roads, which means the
> people have to travel from their house to said road to get their mail. 
> We lived on a farm for part of the time I was growing up and for us that
> was 3/4 of a mile, and that was not uncommon in the area, for some it
> was even further.  Quite different from walking a block, maybe, to a
> community box.

That's no different from where I live (US), though my mailbox is only
about 250 ft. from my house. Packages are delivered to the front door.

Not a big deal.

--Chuck



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Bah, attached photos don't work. OK, the pic is here:
  http://everist.org/pics/misc/20200103_5346_IBM_mag_cards.jpg

Guy

At 10:51 PM 3/01/2020 +1100, you wrote:
>Huh, that's a coincidence. Going through a recent bequeathment to the 
>Australian Computer Museum Society,
>I'd just yesterday opened a box with manuals, some cards, and other bits for 
>the same system. 
>See pic, with manual cover illustration of the system.
>
>It was IBM trying to produce a word processor and email, before the technology 
>was really up to it.
>You typed onto paper, with backspacing and overtyping to get it right, then 
>saved to the mag card.
>That could be read back and printed out, to get a clean copy. Then you could 
>snail mail the mag card
>to someone with another machine. Or just post the printed letter I suppose, 
>but how old fashioned!
>A lease document with the set shows that in 1981 the price was $5000 (AU). Or 
>leased over 48 months,
>total rent of $6682.
>
>My job now is to find out what happened to the actual machine, since the 
>contents list says it's
>present, but it isn't.
>
>Fun fact: according to the listing the modified selectric typewriter (heavy) 
>and the magcard 82 processor
>(cabinet in the photo, supposedly about 50 Kg) are linked by a "non-plugged 
>cable". Brilliant.
>
>Guy
>
>
>
>At 10:46 AM 3/01/2020 +0100, you wrote:
>>A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM 
>>"Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )
>>
>>They seems in medium state, at least,  but I think these are pretty 
>>rare. So, if somebody is interested .
>>
>>https://www.ebay.fr/itm/gro%C3%9Frechner-wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger-magnetkarten/184107517064?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> 
>


Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Huh, that's a coincidence. Going through a recent bequeathment to the 
Australian Computer Museum Society,
I'd just yesterday opened a box with manuals, some cards, and other bits for 
the same system. 
See pic, with manual cover illustration of the system.

It was IBM trying to produce a word processor and email, before the technology 
was really up to it.
You typed onto paper, with backspacing and overtyping to get it right, then 
saved to the mag card.
That could be read back and printed out, to get a clean copy. Then you could 
snail mail the mag card
to someone with another machine. Or just post the printed letter I suppose, but 
how old fashioned!
A lease document with the set shows that in 1981 the price was $5000 (AU). Or 
leased over 48 months,
total rent of $6682.

My job now is to find out what happened to the actual machine, since the 
contents list says it's
present, but it isn't.

Fun fact: according to the listing the modified selectric typewriter (heavy) 
and the magcard 82 processor
(cabinet in the photo, supposedly about 50 Kg) are linked by a "non-plugged 
cable". Brilliant.

Guy



At 10:46 AM 3/01/2020 +0100, you wrote:
>A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM 
>"Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )
>
>They seems in medium state, at least,  but I think these are pretty 
>rare. So, if somebody is interested .
>
>https://www.ebay.fr/itm/gro%C3%9Frechner-wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger-magnetkarten/184107517064?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> 


Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Well, it sounds like Amazon is trying to fix this with there "lockers" 
everywhere. Expect prime shipments to only be to lockers soon, with the 
rest to follow.


(gazing into my crystel ball...)

On 1/3/2020 8:22 AM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:


On 2020-01-03 2:51 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

  On 2020-01-02 9:58 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:

  >Well, Canada Post stopped delivering to individual >houses years ago.

I assume that rural delivery still goes house-to-house.

--Chuck



Rural delivery is done to mail boxes along the roads, which means the 
people have to travel from their house to said road to get their mail. 
We lived on a farm for part of the time I was growing up and for us that 
was 3/4 of a mile, and that was not uncommon in the area, for some it 
was even further.  Quite different from walking a block, maybe, to a 
community box.


Paul.



Re: Ordering parts onesie twosie

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk



On 2020-01-03 2:51 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

  On 2020-01-02 9:58 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:

  >Well, Canada Post stopped delivering to individual >houses years ago.

I assume that rural delivery still goes house-to-house.

--Chuck



Rural delivery is done to mail boxes along the roads, which means the 
people have to travel from their house to said road to get their mail.  
We lived on a farm for part of the time I was growing up and for us that 
was 3/4 of a mile, and that was not uncommon in the area, for some it 
was even further.  Quite different from walking a block, maybe, to a 
community box.


Paul.



Re: OT post delivery / Re: Ordering parts onesie twos

2020-01-03 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk



On 2020-01-03 12:11 a.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:

On 2020-Jan-02, at 6:11 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:

On 2020-01-02 9:58 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:

On 01/02/20 17:22, Ali wrote:

Well, Canada Post stopped delivering to individual >houses years ago.

How does that work?

Community mailboxes that serve a neighbourhood.  You need to trek to one to 
pick up your mail. 
(https://www.canadapost.ca/cpc/en/personal/receiving/manage-mail/community-mailbox.page)

N.


A good part of the city where I live still has door to door delivery from 
Canada Post, but on the other hand the community where I grew up never did.


Resistance because people whined about having to walk a block to get 
their mail, while in many small communities the residents never had door 
to door delivery and always picked up their mail at the box lobby at the 
local post office.  Even though these where small communities, the 
majority of the residents travel further to get their mail than the vast 
majority of people who get their mail from a community box, knowing this 
I have little sympathy for the people now whining about having to pick 
up their mail from a community box.  Yes Canada Post did stop door to 
door delivery in parts of my city but did back off for now.


Paul.



At-property delivery is still present in neighbourhoods whose development 
predates the change in delivery policy. The change, IIRC, was sometime in the 
late-70s. Neighbourhoods developed (subdivision/rezoning) after the policy 
change get community boxes, even if immediately adjacent to a neighbourhood 
with at-property. A new house built in an old (pre-change) neighbourhood will 
still get at-property.

At least that's the general rule as I've observed it. Canada Post has tried to 
get rid of at-property delivery a few times and met with resistance.



Re: FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread Ed Groenenberg via cctalk


GerardCJAT via cctech wrote:
> A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM
> "Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )
>
> They seems in medium state, at least,  but I think these are pretty
> rare. So, if somebody is interested .
>
> https://www.ebay.fr/itm/gro%C3%9Frechner-wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger-magnetkarten/184107517064?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>
>
>

The guy is in Germany and sells a few other IBM related items.
He is also auctioning an DEC RK07 :
https://www.ebay.de/itm/grosrechner-laufwerk/184010127536?hash=item2ad7dbb8b0:g:4DkAAOSwmK1dtI~8

Ed
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FS : IBM Magnetic cards for IBM selectric "compocarte" (?)

2020-01-03 Thread GerardCJAT via cctalk
A guy, in Europ, sells a box of IBM magnetic cards, used on IBM 
"Compcarte" ( sorry, french "name" )


They seems in medium state, at least,  but I think these are pretty 
rare. So, if somebody is interested .


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/gro%C3%9Frechner-wechseldatentr%C3%A4ger-magnetkarten/184107517064?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649