Re: Vintage computing spots in Chicago?

2020-01-06 Thread Tom Uban via cctalk
On 1/5/20 5:39 PM, John Herron via cctalk wrote:
> I'll be in Chicago for a week soon for a work event. Limited time for
> myself but I'll have some time Sunday to maybe Uber around. Any suggestions
> or cool spots for a computer collector to hit?
>
> I see a museum of broadcast communications is close to where I'll be  which
> may be neat. Not sure if there are any used stores that might have vintage
> computers but always willing to try.
What do you collect?


Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk




On 1/6/20 3:53 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:22, Alan Perry via cctalk
 wrote:


I demoed OpenStep Solaris on top of CDE in my last exhibit at VCF PNW.
It could be awkward trying to figure out where to look for application's
menu. Just to make things extra ugly, I ran MAE (Macintosh Application
Environment) at the same time.

I also have a SPARCstation 5 running OPENSTEP/Mach on SPARC.


Any screeenshot galleries or better still videos anywhere?


I found this photo that I took -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZjYMdZZrIygvsQas9b40QWW7uNxMeD1V/view?usp=sharing

alan



I live on a different continent from the one that most VCFs happen on,
and have no desire to change.


Lighthouse was also the source for the Sun CEO who gets a lot of blame
for the fall of Sun.


Well well. TIL.




Re: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes

2020-01-06 Thread Stan Sieler via cctalk
Re:


> Subject: One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes
> ...
> Palo Alto Fry?s closing <
> https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-closed-14939907.php>
> .
>

Wow, how important little words are!

The URL for the SFGate article is misleadingly
   "...Bay-Area-locations-Frys-Electronics-closed"
... which is wrong.

The CCtalk thread is
   "One of Bay Area's last Fry's Electronics stores closes"

The original SFGate article's title (click on link above to see) is:
   "One of Bay Area's few Fry's Electronics stores closes"

Each means something different.  ("one of...last" is more dire than "one of
...few").
Isn't English interesting?

Keep that in mind while reading political reporting, too :)

Stan


Motorola app notes

2020-01-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
did anyone copy the moto app notes that were once at
http://www.shrubbery.net/~heas/willem/PDF/Motorola/apnoteindex.html ?



R: SCO software box last chance

2020-01-06 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
What's inside ?

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Tapley, Mark B. 
via cctalk
Inviato: lunedì 6 gennaio 2020 15:49
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: SCO software box last chance

…spoken for.

have not yet brought myself to throw away this big box of SCO software. Last 
call, though.

- Mark
210-522-6025 office
210-379-4635 cell




Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



> On Jan 6, 2020, at 06:55, Liam Proven via cctech  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:22, Alan Perry via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> 
>> I demoed OpenStep Solaris on top of CDE in my last exhibit at VCF PNW.
>> It could be awkward trying to figure out where to look for application's
>> menu. Just to make things extra ugly, I ran MAE (Macintosh Application
>> Environment) at the same time.
>> 
>> I also have a SPARCstation 5 running OPENSTEP/Mach on SPARC.
> 
> Any screeenshot galleries or better still videos anywhere?

I didn’t shoot any nor have I seen and I haven’t seen any shot by someone else. 
I still have the system with all that software installed and could recreate the 
demo and shoot some video of it if you are interested.

alan




SCO software box last chance

2020-01-06 Thread Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk
…spoken for.

have not yet brought myself to throw away this big box of SCO software. Last 
call, though.

- Mark
210-522-6025 office
210-379-4635 cell



Hello All - new member in the UK

2020-01-06 Thread Salik Rafiq via cctalk
Hello all, a new member here.

 

I’m in the UK where I’ve lived for 17 years now. Before that I lived in
Canada.

 

I got my computer bug as a kid playing with VIC20, TRS-80, APPLE ][  and a
mainframe. Presently I work as a .Net programmer mainly doing ASP.Net. Most
of the old hardware I had stopped working for one reason or another and was
binned – my Dad didn’t like clutter. So I’m surrounded by laptops and a
couple of older machines which used to run the network in the office.

 

I’ve started looking around for some vintage machines that I used at Uni.
Sparcstation, NeXT Cube are the ones I used the most. 

 

One machine that I would very much like to have is a SUN Sparcstation as
I’ve some old projects that I did at university which I’d like to carry on
working on (also to show my kids what I did at Uni) If anyone on here is in
the UK and has a Sparcstation 1,2,4,5 I’d be interested. If it has the ¼”
drive than I’d be interested in that too. SunOS would be OK as that’s what I
used. I am tempted in a NeXT but my project used X11 and a library called
InterViews which I think will only work on X. Maybe someone can clarify
that.

 


Anyway, enjoying reading the posts and happy to have found you.

Salik.

 

 



Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:22, Alan Perry via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I demoed OpenStep Solaris on top of CDE in my last exhibit at VCF PNW.
> It could be awkward trying to figure out where to look for application's
> menu. Just to make things extra ugly, I ran MAE (Macintosh Application
> Environment) at the same time.
>
> I also have a SPARCstation 5 running OPENSTEP/Mach on SPARC.

Any screeenshot galleries or better still videos anywhere?

I live on a different continent from the one that most VCFs happen on,
and have no desire to change.

> Lighthouse was also the source for the Sun CEO who gets a lot of blame
> for the fall of Sun.

Well well. TIL.


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Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:12, Chris Hanson  wrote:
>
> Not quite! Sun was a participant in creating the OpenStep standard (the NS 
> class prefix stands for “NeXT/Sun”) and *created their own implementation* of 
> OpenStep for Solaris. (Just as GNUstep is an independent implementation of 
> the OpenStep spec under the FSF umbrella, and OPENSTEP/Mach and 
> OPENSTEP/Enterprise were NeXT’s implementations.)
>
> OpenStep Solaris was released, both the user and developer environment, and 
> you should be able to find them today and install them on Solaris 2.5 or 
> later. I think OpenStep will run on everything through Solaris 7 or Solaris 
> 8, but at some point it stopped working because it required Display 
> PostScript in the window server.
>
> > Sun also bought a number of NeXTstep software houses, including
> > Lighthouse, but didn't release the code.
>
> Indeed, that was post-OpenStep; they weren’t buying companies like Lighthouse 
> to get a suite of applications for OpenStep Solaris, they were buying them to 
> port their stuff to Java (since Java was based rather heavily on Objective-C, 
> and some aspects of the Java frameworks’ designs on OpenStep).

Fascinating stuff -- thanks for the clarification!

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