Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS?
>>> 
>>> And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS?
>>> 
>>> I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system
>>> and just live in the past for a while.  I have Fortran-IV,
>>> Fortran-77, COBOL-81 and C installed now as well as BASIC and
>>> MACRO.  But I  haven't had the chance to do any DIBOL or RPG
>>> for quite some time and would love to try them again.
>> If you want to try something entirely different, dig up the FORTH runtime 
>> system that's part of the V10.1 "unsupported" kit.  It's a neat language.  
>> Still in use, in fact.
> 
> I used that FIG FORTH package ages ago on real PDP-11's.
> Was never impressed with Forth so much.  Only time I was
> impressed was when I worked with OpenPROM which was all
> written in Forth.  Wanted to do one for the PDP-11 but
> lost interest when Sun gave it to IEEE and they wanted
> several thousand dollars just to look at it.
> 
> Now I am more interested in sticking with the serious
> business languages that ran on the PDP-11.
> 
> bill

Ok.  The RSTS Forth is more than FIG-FORTH; it adds the FORTH-83 (FORTH-79?) 
language standard features.  I used it for several applications, the biggest by 
far is SDA, an interactive RSTS crash dump analyzer.  4600 lines of code...  It 
should be in the kit.

paul



Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 3/27/20 8:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote:




On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk  
wrote:

Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS?

And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS?

I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system
and just live in the past for a while.  I have Fortran-IV,
Fortran-77, COBOL-81 and C installed now as well as BASIC and
MACRO.  But I  haven't had the chance to do any DIBOL or RPG
for quite some time and would love to try them again.


If you want to try something entirely different, dig up the FORTH runtime system that's 
part of the V10.1 "unsupported" kit.  It's a neat language.  Still in use, in 
fact.



I used that FIG FORTH package ages ago on real PDP-11's.
Was never impressed with Forth so much.  Only time I was
impressed was when I worked with OpenPROM which was all
written in Forth.  Wanted to do one for the PDP-11 but
lost interest when Sun gave it to IEEE and they wanted
several thousand dollars just to look at it.

Now I am more interested in sticking with the serious
business languages that ran on the PDP-11.

bill



Re: DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Mar 27, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS?
> 
> And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS?
> 
> I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system
> and just live in the past for a while.  I have Fortran-IV,
> Fortran-77, COBOL-81 and C installed now as well as BASIC and
> MACRO.  But I  haven't had the chance to do any DIBOL or RPG
> for quite some time and would love to try them again.

If you want to try something entirely different, dig up the FORTH runtime 
system that's part of the V10.1 "unsupported" kit.  It's a neat language.  
Still in use, in fact.

paul




DIBOL and RPG for RSTS

2020-03-27 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

Does anyone have a .tap image of a DIBOL install tape for RSTS?

And while I am at it, was there ever RPG for RSTS?

I am so bored I have decided to really load up a SIMH system
and just live in the past for a while.  I have Fortran-IV,
Fortran-77, COBOL-81 and C installed now as well as BASIC and
MACRO.  But I  haven't had the chance to do any DIBOL or RPG
for quite some time and would love to try them again.

bill



RE: Unable to download Dave Dunfield's ImageDisk

2020-03-27 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
My thanks as well.  I've used it for years and have a 386 machine dedicated
to running it.

Bill Sudbrink

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:23 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Unable to download Dave Dunfield's ImageDisk

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 4:47 AM, Dave Dunfield via cctalk wrote:
> 
> Should be fixed now - may have to refresh your browser if It cached
> the bad links.
> 
> Dave

By the way, Dave, I just wanted to say thanks for ImageDisk. I use it
constantly on my floppy archiving box and it's one of the most important
tools in my workflow. I've even used it to realign several floppy drives
with great success. I truly appreciate your work on it.

All the best,

-Seth
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Re: help needed: Document scan of ISS Sperry Univac Driver Exerciser avalaible for bitsavers upload

2020-03-27 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk

On 3/27/20 3:55 AM, P Gebhardt via cctalk wrote:

I contacted two times Al via email for access credentials to upload the 
document as I did in the past years for numerous scans, but I never got an 
answer.


private msg sent
sorry, things have been crazy




help needed: Document scan of ISS Sperry Univac Driver Exerciser avalaible for bitsavers upload

2020-03-27 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Hello list,

I have a scan of a manual with schematics for a  ISS Sperry Univac Driver 
Exerciser for 7330 and 843x type of disk drives that was kindly scanned and 
provided to me by Mark from the Computer History Archivies Project, since he 
and myself happen to come accross such exercisers. I contacted two times Al via 
email for access credentials to upload the document as I did in the past years 
for numerous scans, but I never got an answer. He is probably very busy during 
the last months. In case anybody has access for uploading documents on this 
list, can you contact me so that we can make this document available to 
everybody? 

Best regards,
Pierre


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