Re: Burroughs L-series paper tapes
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctech" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 1:07 PM Subject: Burroughs L-series paper tapes > I've bought a small number of L-series tapes over the years that I finally > read yesterday, > mostly pass 1 and 2 of the assembler. > Part numbers look like this. Oddly, they all seem to be wound backwards. The > person-readable > label is at the end, which will make it annoying to scan. > > 1-2101-049-01 > 1-2101-052-07 > 1-1001-008-07 > 1-1001-009-07 > > Anyone have any others? > > --- No descriptions? No idea which model L? Would be interesting to see the dumps, esp. the assembler. I threw out several boxes full, way back before I realized that people were actually interested in this old junk, err, these old classic systems. Guess someone just wound them up as they came out of the machine. I've been following the recent thread about reading paper tapes and don't see why there are any issues? Assuming you have some kind of reader the interface should be trivial; just read them at full speed and manipulate them as needed later on a PC. Reversing the sequence oughta be really trivial, no? Could even do it with Excel ;-) Or am I missing something? m
Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?
On 7/29/2020 4:47 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > RE iomec drive and controller- SMECC has manuals for this subsystem and > diags and drivers for it.Wen things get back to normal we will be able to > accesses themshould you need any info. We are also looking for a 2114! > and a 2115! We have the 2116 (drop us a line offlist) Ed# SMECC In a > message dated 7/28/2020 10:51:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > cct...@classiccmp.org writes: I do have the manuals as well. Haven't scanned them yet, but I think some of them might be on bitsavers.
Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?
On 7/28/2020 11:33 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > > On 2020-Jul-28, at 6:40 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > >> On 7/28/2020 1:43 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctech wrote: >>> >>> Per the OP's machine, the early HP21xx machines were based on CTµL, for >>> which the main supply is +4.5V. >>> DTL and TTL chips in these machines ran off that 4.5 supply. >>> >> >> The DTL I referred to in my posting are in a third-party (IOMEC) disk >> controller, not the HP 2114 CPU. > > Oh, I take it you mean in a separate chassis with it's own power supply then. > (I thought you were referring to the interface boards in the CPU chassis). > Yup. JRJ
Re: Burroughs L-series paper tapes
On 8/1/2020 10:07 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I've bought a small number of L-series tapes over the years that I finally read yesterday, mostly pass 1 and 2 of the assembler. Part numbers look like this. Oddly, they all seem to be wound backwards. The person-readable label is at the end, which will make it annoying to scan. 1-2101-049-01 1-2101-052-07 1-1001-008-07 1-1001-009-07 Anyone have any others I had a box of tapes for my L-5000, but unfortunately it and the tapes ended up at the LCM so who knows where they are now... Bob -- Vintage computers and electronics www.dvq.com www.tekmuseum.com www.decmuseum.org
Re: Burroughs L-series paper tapes
On 8/1/20 3:04 PM, Mike Stein wrote: No descriptions? No idea which model L? Would be interesting to see the dumps, esp. the assembler. including cctlk, since that is where I posted the message pass 1 and 2 for the L-4000 and a combined SL5 tape marked "L8/L9"
Re: Burroughs L-series paper tapes
On 8/1/20 10:07 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I've bought a small number of L-series tapes over the years that I finally read yesterday, mostly pass 1 and 2 of the assembler. finished scanning the labels. they are uploaded now to http://bitsavers.org/bits/Burroughs/L-Series
Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
For all, I can take them to a UPS shipping center if you pay for packing and shipping. I just drop 'em off and you figure it out. I'll send them in packs of four, Cost: This is coming from Bob's stash of stuff and any proceeds go directly to his mom who is 81 and trying to replace her boiler. Paypal me what you think is fair. fkirst batch is 5011320 5011050 5011217 5018011 5011149 CZ On 8/1/2020 1:30 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I am interested, but I am not in Maryland. On 8/1/20 8:47 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. CZ On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis
Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
Hello, I’m interested in few board or all, but will you ship to NY? Best regards, Plamen On Saturday, August 1, 2020, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series > systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and > memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) > > Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. > > CZ > > On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > >> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in >> case >> anyone is interested: >> >> https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga >> >> Approximately 100 USD each. >> >> They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time >> without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? >> >> /Mattis >> >>
Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1
I’m interested!!! Would you be able to take them to a UPS store ( or the like ) and I’ll call them to pay for shipping. Possible?? Earl Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2020, at 1:00 PM, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to >cctalk@classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >cctalk-ow...@classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: OpenVMS Community License (Rico Pajarola) > 2. Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software (r.stricklin) > 3. SUN VME - seller in Sweden. (Mattis Lind) > 4. Re: SUN VME - Have em in US (Chris Zach) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:04:29 -0700 > From: Rico Pajarola > To: Bill Gunshannon , "General >Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Subject: Re: OpenVMS Community License > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 8:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>>One could make a case that the >>> wording of the license is imprecise enough >> >> The wording is only imprecise to those who do not wish to follow it. >> It is, by far, the cleanest and plainest written Hobbyist License I >> have ever seen. > > IANAL, but I'm married to one... just pointing out that "clear language" > does not mean the same thing to lawyers as it does to us engineers. > "software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation" is pretty vague as far as > lawyer-speak goes. The license does not seem to specifically include or > exclude alternative scenarios. Anyone, especially a non-lawyer who was not > involved with the drafting of the license, and says "obviously that must > mean X" is just making stuff up (it doesn't matter what X is. Notice that > I'm not saying it means you can use it under this license. I don't know, > and IANAL). It's like undefined behaviour in C. You can make an educated > guess (given additional information you have, such as history, > correspondence with Mentec about the topic etc.), and you might be right, > but the only way to find out for sure is to run the compiler and look at > the disassembly, i.e. force a clarification from Mentec. > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 00:03:19 -0700 > From: "r.stricklin" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" > Subject: Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software > Message-ID: <11e069c4-5a01-4e1b-875e-d36d13c5e...@typewritten.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Folks; > > I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC > Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been > archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the > utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x. > > I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. > This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for > CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I > should imagine). > > If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing > it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks! > > > ok > bear. > > -- > until further notice > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:55:50 +0200 > From: Mattis Lind > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Subject: SUN VME - seller in Sweden. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case > anyone is interested: > > https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga > > Approximately 100 USD each. > > They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time > without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? > > /Mattis > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:47:50 -0400 > From: Chris Zach > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: SUN VME - Have em in US > Message-ID: <3b876af1-7662-93c1-ad8e-bf8837fc6...@alembic.crystel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series > systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and > memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) > > Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. > > CZ > > On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: >> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD
Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
Where are you? C On 8/1/2020 1:30 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I am interested, but I am not in Maryland. On 8/1/20 8:47 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. CZ On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis
Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
I am interested, but I am not in Maryland. On 8/1/20 8:47 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. CZ On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis
Burroughs L-series paper tapes
I've bought a small number of L-series tapes over the years that I finally read yesterday, mostly pass 1 and 2 of the assembler. Part numbers look like this. Oddly, they all seem to be wound backwards. The person-readable label is at the end, which will make it annoying to scan. 1-2101-049-01 1-2101-052-07 1-1001-008-07 1-1001-009-07 Anyone have any others?
Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020) Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred. CZ On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis
SUN VME - seller in Sweden.
A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case anyone is interested: https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga Approximately 100 USD each. They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate? /Mattis
Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software
Folks; I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x. I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I should imagine). If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks! ok bear. -- until further notice
