RE: Keyboard storage
Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box. Alas was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad snapped off... that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for first ever ibm pc. Be ware pack really well.. Help anyone got parts for the tilter ...thing for these keyboards ...ed sharpe On Monday, December 21, 2020 Ali via cctalk wrote: > Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular > one > that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on > the > Click-N-Ship site. > > alan Yes. It is not usually stocked at the PO. You have to "order" them from the USPS website. They have the measurements there so you can verify your KBs will fit. However, I have shipped IBM 122 key terminal KBs in them without issues. Only thing that may not fit would be some of the older IBM KBs (like the ones on the Displaywriter). -Ali
Re: Keyboard storage
No worries. I use Uline for all sorts of stuff and they generally deliver within 2 days (even out here in the boonies). I always find a use for any extras. ;-) I generally avoid USPS partly because they don't deliver to our house, so we have a P.O. Box (which means I have to talk to the shipper to determine what method they use for shipping so I can give them the right address). Frankly, I don't understand because UPS and FedEx deliver right to our door (although sometimes it's fun to figure out *which* door they left the package at). TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 23:05 -0800, Alan Perry wrote: > Thanks. I had seen that one before, but didn't know what to do with > the > extra 15 boxes. > > The USPS box has the advantages of being free and being a box I am > more > likely to use to ship something with (because of the flat rate price > and > not having to deal with weighing the box). > > alan > > On 12/21/20 10:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S- > > 6496). > > They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( > > > > TTFN - Guy > > > > On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more > > > efficiently > > > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. > > > They > > > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in > > > total. > > > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > > > > > alan
Re: Keyboard storage
Thanks. I had seen that one before, but didn't know what to do with the extra 15 boxes. The USPS box has the advantages of being free and being a box I am more likely to use to ship something with (because of the flat rate price and not having to deal with weighing the box). alan On 12/21/20 10:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S-6496). They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan
Re: Keyboard storage
Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S-6496). They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more > efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. > They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan
RE: Keyboard storage
> Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular > one > that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on > the > Click-N-Ship site. > > alan Yes. It is not usually stocked at the PO. You have to "order" them from the USPS website. They have the measurements there so you can verify your KBs will fit. However, I have shipped IBM 122 key terminal KBs in them without issues. Only thing that may not fit would be some of the older IBM KBs (like the ones on the Displaywriter). -Ali
Re: Keyboard storage
On 12/21/20 10:42 PM, Ali wrote: I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan Alan, If you have the room you can get free (you have to order them but they cost nothing and are shipped free) "game board" boxes from the USPS. These are perfect for KBs. In fact this is what I use when shipping KBs. -Ali Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular one that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on the Click-N-Ship site. alan
RE: Keyboard storage
> I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan Alan, If you have the room you can get free (you have to order them but they cost nothing and are shipped free) "game board" boxes from the USPS. These are perfect for KBs. In fact this is what I use when shipping KBs. -Ali
Re: Keyboard storage
Maybe contact a shipping supply company. They have a number of boxes likely to be suitable. Warner On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:17 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan >
Keyboard storage
I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan
Re: RL02 Tracking
> From: Josh Dersch > RL02 packs that have been degaussed. Might as well hammer nails through them. "To keep the heads properly aligned on the tracks, it used a servo system driven by servo data written on the pack (along with sector headers) at the factory. Packs cannnot be low-level re-formatted in the field". Noel
Wordperfect 6.0 for DOS
I've put Wordperfect 6.0 for DOS on EBay, item number 224280064405 Van Snyder van.sny...@sbcglobal.net
Re: tty and video displays
On 12/14/20 10:06 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: On 2020-Dec-14, at 7:57 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: On 12/14/20 4:41 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Yes. Coincidentally I've just been refurbishing one - a Teleray 3931. It's an ASCII/APL terminal, overstriking was included for the APL mode. http://madrona.ca/e/teleray3931/index.html Holy cow, I have that keyboard. ... (It's definitely -12V, not -5V? I'm just thinking that the -12V noted on your schematic is quite close the the 15V rating on the cap - although that could explain why my later setup got caps rated to 35V, too) I don't remember whether I traced it or measured it, but I'm fairy confident, Vgg = -12 is pretty common for GI MOS ICs. I'll try to remember to double-check it when I have the unit opened again. Hey, Just a heads-up, I finally got around to hooking it up - and it works just fine on -5V. I'm not inclined to try -12V just in case it cooks, but I suppose it's possible that it just needs some -ve voltage "more than x" and so -12V is perfectly acceptable, too. Or maybe I just got lucky and this IC is happy on -5V where some might not be. I'm pretty happy that it's alive, anyway. I need to figure out what's going on with the spacebar (it currently doesn't sit level), but time to figure out some frankenproject for it! cheers Jules
Re: RL02 Tracking
>> > I've posted a few times over the years about RL02 drives and my >> > difficulty getting them working (no luck so far!). I've spent the past >> > few days working on one of them and have made some progress. >> > >> > The status currently is that the heads will load, and the ready lamp >> > flashes as the heads wobble back and forth very slightly, >> I dropped an RL02 cartridge, and needed to get it to load >> one more time to get programs off it. >> The ready lamp was a dim, slightly flickering glow. I >> figured the platter had been knocked off center. >> I loosened the bolts at tapped it a bit until it looked >> better centered. It took a couple tries, but then the ready >> light came on fully bright, and I was able to mount the disk >> and read it. >> >> I don't know if that could be your problem. If you get a >> solid servo signal with the motor disconnected, then this is >> not the same problem. >> > > To add my two cents, I've also seen this behavior on RL02 packs that have > been degaussed. It might be worth your time to find someone with a known > working RL02 drive (or known working RL02 pack) so you can confirm that > your packs are good. Thanks Jon, that's handy to know for the future but indeed solid servo signals with the motor disconnected. Presumably the servo bursts would not be visible if the cartridges had been erased that way, since this is encoded in the data tracks themselves. However, it does make me wonder if the cartridges have just been exposed to some wild temperature fluctuations, since the signal from either appears to be a little weak. I suppose the worst thing this would lead to in my case is over compensating the read/write head adjustment, which means actually good cartridges don't work. I'll try and get hold of another cartridge from a friend once it's safe to do so. Although, he hasn't attempted to get his RL02 drives working yet so... Cheers, Aaron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law.
Re: RL02 Tracking
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:09 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 12/21/2020 01:08 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi everyone > > > > I've posted a few times over the years about RL02 drives and my > > difficulty getting them working (no luck so far!). I've spent the past > > few days working on one of them and have made some progress. > > > > The status currently is that the heads will load, and the ready lamp > > flashes as the heads wobble back and forth very slightly, > I dropped an RL02 cartridge, and needed to get it to load > one more time to get programs off it. > The ready lamp was a dim, slightly flickering glow. I > figured the platter had been knocked off center. > I loosened the bolts at tapped it a bit until it looked > better centered. It took a couple tries, but then the ready > light came on fully bright, and I was able to mount the disk > and read it. > > I don't know if that could be your problem. If you get a > solid servo signal with the motor disconnected, then this is > not the same problem. > To add my two cents, I've also seen this behavior on RL02 packs that have been degaussed. It might be worth your time to find someone with a known working RL02 drive (or known working RL02 pack) so you can confirm that your packs are good. - Josh > > Jon >
Re: RL02 Tracking
On 12/21/2020 01:08 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: Hi everyone I've posted a few times over the years about RL02 drives and my difficulty getting them working (no luck so far!). I've spent the past few days working on one of them and have made some progress. The status currently is that the heads will load, and the ready lamp flashes as the heads wobble back and forth very slightly, I dropped an RL02 cartridge, and needed to get it to load one more time to get programs off it. The ready lamp was a dim, slightly flickering glow. I figured the platter had been knocked off center. I loosened the bolts at tapped it a bit until it looked better centered. It took a couple tries, but then the ready light came on fully bright, and I was able to mount the disk and read it. I don't know if that could be your problem. If you get a solid servo signal with the motor disconnected, then this is not the same problem. Jon
Re: RL02 Tracking
On 21 December 2020 at 19:08 GMT, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > Supposedly if the main drive motor is bad it will emit noise and cause > the tachometer (just a coil of wire on the head carriage) to produce > spikes. Mine does look quite noisy but I'm not sure what's causing it. I > would expect that if it was picking up noise, I'd be able to detect this > with my oscilloscope probe by putting it close to the motor, but I > can't. Any ideas? > > Also, thanks to pjustice on irc who suggested checking the spindle > grounding button. Mine is very worn out but I've been able to apply some > pressure to it from the under side which reduces the resistance of the > spindle to ground, from 400 ohm to 0 ohm. This didn't make the situation > any better though. This signal appears to be normal and traces back to the seek control ROM. The question is what causes this output to become high. Presumably the 'tachometer AC noise check' does not account for whatever the issue is with my drive. Will probe the rest of the ROM outputs tomorrow and continue to trace backwards. Aaron This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law.
RL02 Tracking
Hi everyone I've posted a few times over the years about RL02 drives and my difficulty getting them working (no luck so far!). I've spent the past few days working on one of them and have made some progress. The status currently is that the heads will load, and the ready lamp flashes as the heads wobble back and forth very slightly, trying to lock onto the outer servo guard band. Probing TP2 of the read/write module, I can see the S1 servo burst flash (roughly in time with the ready lamp). If I disconnect power to the servo motor, I can manually move the head onto the outer guard band (less than a mm away) and monitoring the position signal (TP15 on the drive logic module) shows this to be close to 0. So, I'm very confused. I've worked through chapter 3 multiple times... - voltage checks - all good - sector transducer output check - all good - sector pulse timing check - all good - read signal amplitude check and adjustment - all good - positioner radial alignment - required some tweeking but is good now - head alignment - looks good to me - spindle runout check - a little noisy but within spec - position signal gain check - looked ok - tachometer ac noise pickup check - this one didnt look so good Supposedly if the main drive motor is bad it will emit noise and cause the tachometer (just a coil of wire on the head carriage) to produce spikes. Mine does look quite noisy but I'm not sure what's causing it. I would expect that if it was picking up noise, I'd be able to detect this with my oscilloscope probe by putting it close to the motor, but I can't. Any ideas? Also, thanks to pjustice on irc who suggested checking the spindle grounding button. Mine is very worn out but I've been able to apply some pressure to it from the under side which reduces the resistance of the spindle to ground, from 400 ohm to 0 ohm. This didn't make the situation any better though. Still, the situation over all is much better now than it was last time I looked at the drive (over two years ago now I think). Previously the heads would attempt to load and then the fault lamp would come on immediately. At least now it's trying to lock onto a track. I have the same results with two cartridges (which is all I have!). If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them! Aaron (Sorry, as usual, about the footer appended by my university.) This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law.
Intermec 8625 printer
Hi all, I'm hoping to get an answer here. The 8625 barcode printer has a prompting mode, switched on by activating the bottom switch in a bank of switches. The printer is then supposed to write a prompt, so you can start programming the label formats. I seem to remember that the printer expects a CTRL+H sequence to be reset/restarted, but nothing happens. Can any of you remember the settings for the terminal (I do know about 9600,7,1,even) ? I'm not sure on which terminal the printer expects to write to. VT100 ? ANSI? ? And how about flow control? Any help would be appreciated Regards Nico PS The printer is to be used for museum purposes, and as usual, the museum has no money to spend :-(
