Re: cleaning up edge connectors

2022-04-29 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
DeOxit works pretty good for cleaning up connectors that still have serviceable 
surface finishes, but yeah, temporary at best if the surface finish is gone. We 
use it to clean up all sorts of connectors that are just regular dirty, pots, 
etc.

Thanks,
Jonathan




--- Original Message ---
On Friday, April 29th, 2022 at 16:35, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
 wrote:


>
>
> On 4/28/22 18:02, Mike Katz wrote:
>
> > I use DeOxit Gold to clean my PDP-8 boards edge conectors:
>
>
> I have DeOxit but I saw that as a very short term solution (no
> pun intended :-)). I think I will try my idea of using solder
> with a little silver in it if I can find some suitable.
>
> bill


Re: Looking for old OAK keyboard/control switch...

2022-04-29 Thread John Robertson via cctalk

Link to image of switch:

https://www.flippers.com/images/Misc/OAK_Pushbutton_Switch-1973.jpg

Thanks,

John :-#)#

On 2022/04/29 2:14 p.m., John Robertson via cctalk wrote:
I've been hunting for a few years for these switches and was thinking 
that perhaps folks here may have seen them or even have some they wish 
to part with...I've hit all the surplus sites, and poured over old 
copies of old Radio Master Parts Catalogue/Encyclopedias - have 7 of 
those, from 1971 going back to 1942 (have visited bitsavers too of 
course)...


This has a total length of 1-5/8", the actuator bar is 5/8 x 3/16 x 
~1/32", the body is 1/2 x 1/2 x 7/8". This uses spring steel snap-on 
clips to secure it in the rectangular hole in the control/keyboard panel.


They have four pins, two are NC and two are NO, no interconnection 
between the pins.


See attached 15kb photo. Hope this doesn't break the system!

Looking for as many as anyone can spare! These are for restoration 
work, so the more the merrier.


Thanks!

John :-#)#



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Looking for old OAK keyboard/control switch...

2022-04-29 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
I've been hunting for a few years for these switches and was thinking 
that perhaps folks here may have seen them or even have some they wish 
to part with...I've hit all the surplus sites, and poured over old 
copies of old Radio Master Parts Catalogue/Encyclopedias - have 7 of 
those, from 1971 going back to 1942 (have visited bitsavers too of 
course)...


This has a total length of 1-5/8", the actuator bar is 5/8 x 3/16 x 
~1/32", the body is 1/2 x 1/2 x 7/8". This uses spring steel snap-on 
clips to secure it in the rectangular hole in the control/keyboard panel.


They have four pins, two are NC and two are NO, no interconnection 
between the pins.


See attached 15kb photo. Hope this doesn't break the system!

Looking for as many as anyone can spare! These are for restoration work, 
so the more the merrier.


Thanks!

John :-#)#

--
 John's Jukes Ltd.
7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
Call (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
 flippers.com
 "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"


Re: cleaning up edge connectors

2022-04-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 4/28/22 18:02, Mike Katz wrote:

I use DeOxit Gold to clean my PDP-8 boards edge conectors:



I have DeOxit but I saw that as a very short term solution (no
pun intended :-)).  I think I will try my idea of using solder
with a little silver in it if I can find some suitable.

bill



Re: DEC OSF/1 for i386?

2022-04-29 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
I knew folks who worked on A/UX at Apple, but I don't have any details 
about it's internals.


TTFN - Guy

On 4/29/22 11:40, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:

but I know at IBM we had 2 principle "ports" that we maintained (PPC


Did this have anything to do with Apple's alleged "A/UX for PowerPC" which was
supposedly OSF/1 based?


--
TTFN - Guy



Re: DEC OSF/1 for i386?

2022-04-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> but I know at IBM we had 2 principle "ports" that we maintained (PPC


Did this have anything to do with Apple's alleged "A/UX for PowerPC" which was
supposedly OSF/1 based?

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Re: cleaning up edge connectors

2022-04-29 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> Copper? Mine all look like solder. Probably copper underneath but
> the exposed part is lead which probably explains why they seem to
> corrode so easily.

Ah, yeah, if they're finished in matte tin or HASL, I just reflow leaded solder 
on. A little bit of Superior #30 flux will make it flow nice and flat. If you 
don't have liquid flux suitable to it, put solder on and remove excess with 
solder wick.

Thanks,
Jonathan


Re: DEC OSF/1 for i386?

2022-04-29 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
I was at IBM when OSF (and subsequently OSF/1) was created and had a lot 
of discussions with OSF at that time.  At IBM I was working on the IBM 
Microkernel.  OSF/1 also used Mach (but a different source base) as the 
kernel.  The big effort was to keep the APIs and documentation 
"similar".  We had huge arguments about RPC and I think that's the area 
that we didn't converge which I think made the whole thing pointless 
since the IPC/RPC was one of the main points of Mach.  :-/


I don't know what DEC did in terms of their OSF/1 product, but I know at 
IBM we had 2 principle "ports" that we maintained (PPC & x86) as well as 
a few others (MIPS, StrongARM, 68K being the other ones as I recall) 
that we "kept alive".


TTFN - Guy

On 4/29/22 07:45, Dennis Grevenstein via cctech wrote:

Hi,

just recently I found this archive:

https://vetusware.com/download/OSF1%20Source%20Code%201.10/?id=11574

this is a package of source code for DEC OSF/1 V 1.0. I knew that this is
supposed to run on DECstations (with MIPS), in fact I have a DS3100
running it myself.
However, one thing really puzzled me: This archive apparently includes
support for i386. There is even a kernel build log from 1990.
Now that was news to me. I never realized that this worked on i386.
Can anybody here tell any stories about this?

regards,
Dennis


--
TTFN - Guy



DEC OSF/1 for i386?

2022-04-29 Thread Dennis Grevenstein via cctalk
Hi,

just recently I found this archive:

https://vetusware.com/download/OSF1%20Source%20Code%201.10/?id=11574

this is a package of source code for DEC OSF/1 V 1.0. I knew that this is
supposed to run on DECstations (with MIPS), in fact I have a DS3100
running it myself.
However, one thing really puzzled me: This archive apparently includes
support for i386. There is even a kernel build log from 1990.
Now that was news to me. I never realized that this worked on i386.
Can anybody here tell any stories about this?

regards,
Dennis


Re: RT11 Freeware Collection

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Apr 28, 2022, at 11:05 PM, s shumaker via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> duh...  Didn't look there.  was googling all over w/o success.  It didn't 
> show the bitsavers link.  Thanks!

Rumor has it that Google has a bias against http (not https) sites, even though 
for applications like this http is quite reasonable.

paul




Re: cleaning up edge connectors

2022-04-29 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 4/28/22 18:33, Jonathan Chapman wrote:

If there's bad/deep corrosion, I hit it with the ink eraser (I have a bunch of 
Eberhard-Faber ones that look like a wooden pencil, you sharpen them like a 
pencil too). If that won't touch it, I use the stainless steel toothbrush.

Corey Cohen has some plating solution that you dip a pen in, intended for 
jewelry repair. The plating does not hold up well over copper, you need a layer 
of nickel over the copper first. So, if you're removing down to the copper, 
you'll have to find a way to put nickel on first.


Copper?  Mine all look like solder.  Probably copper underneath but
the exposed part is lead which probably explains why they seem to
corrode so easily.

bill