Re: Cctalk subscription disabled
Gmail is by far the biggest email provider and works fine with other Mailman based mailing lists. How exactly is Gmail causing it and what is the work-around? Thanks Tom On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 2:26 PM Adrian Stoness wrote: > gmail is causing it > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:15 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> I didn't receive any cctalk messages for a few days, so I checked my Spam >> folder (empty) and then the archive which had several new messages I >> haven't seen. I then checked my cctalk membership configuration. >> Surprisingly "Mail delivery" was disabled. >> >> Some time ago I received a few emails from the list server about >> "excessive >> bounces" saying that I should simply reply to the email otherwise my >> subscription would be disabled. I replied and didn't think too much about >> it. This time I got no "excessive bounces" email but my subscription got >> disabled. >> >> I got an otherwise reliable @gmail.com email address. Does anyone else >> here >> have problems with this? Is there some way of preventing this from >> happening? >> >> Thanks >> Tom >> >
Re: Cctalk subscription disabled
gmail is causing it On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 1:15 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > I didn't receive any cctalk messages for a few days, so I checked my Spam > folder (empty) and then the archive which had several new messages I > haven't seen. I then checked my cctalk membership configuration. > Surprisingly "Mail delivery" was disabled. > > Some time ago I received a few emails from the list server about "excessive > bounces" saying that I should simply reply to the email otherwise my > subscription would be disabled. I replied and didn't think too much about > it. This time I got no "excessive bounces" email but my subscription got > disabled. > > I got an otherwise reliable @gmail.com email address. Does anyone else > here > have problems with this? Is there some way of preventing this from > happening? > > Thanks > Tom >
Cctalk subscription disabled
I didn't receive any cctalk messages for a few days, so I checked my Spam folder (empty) and then the archive which had several new messages I haven't seen. I then checked my cctalk membership configuration. Surprisingly "Mail delivery" was disabled. Some time ago I received a few emails from the list server about "excessive bounces" saying that I should simply reply to the email otherwise my subscription would be disabled. I replied and didn't think too much about it. This time I got no "excessive bounces" email but my subscription got disabled. I got an otherwise reliable @gmail.com email address. Does anyone else here have problems with this? Is there some way of preventing this from happening? Thanks Tom
Re: The TRS-80 Journey Continues
[TRS-80 Model 4P] > If it will do it with a blank disk, then the statements that it "doesn't > have ROMs" are more faulty. It obviously has SOME ROMs, to start up enough > to try to boot. But, this would tend towards disproving the statements > that it doesn't have BASIC in ROM. > And, if it has the "POKE" command, then all sorts of wondrous things > become more easily available. I don't have a 4P, only the desktop Model 4 which of course is known to have 14K of ROM containing BASIC. But I've been reading the 4P service manual which has a good description of the boot process. There is 4K of ROM in a 4P, to extend it to a larger ROM would involve major-ish hardware modifications. So I think we can discount this. However the boot process checks to see if it's likely that the Model 3 ROM image is needed and if so it will load it from disk very early on in the boot sequence. So my guess is that the disk that started all this had a valid and readable ROM image on it, this was loaded, and there was then an error loading the rest of the OS so the machine ran said BASIC. Incidentally, one feature of the 4P boot that I didn't know about is that it's possible to boot from the RS232 port. That is to download (plain binary I think) and run a program from there without a disk. -tony
Re: The TRS-80 Journey Continues
On Tue, 10 May 2022, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: DDensity. I thought there was a single command to make the system part and then you just added the Utilities you wanted. Was it SYSGEN?
Re: Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division
Were did you find that reference. Gavin? Sent from the all new AOL app for Android On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:02 PM, Gavin Scott wrote: Perhaps: "Molecular Electronics Branch, Electronic Technology Division, Air Force Avionics Laboratory, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio." On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:31 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division > thanks Ed# > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
Re: The TRS-80 Journey Continues
are you running montezuma CP/M? On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:39 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > > Well, I hope this doesn't sound too stupid but I have searched all > the manuals I have and the web as well with no luck. > > How do I make a bootable floppy from a running hard disk system? > Not copy an image to a floppy but build a bootable floppy disk > on a real running system. I know it can be done because we had > to do it all the time in the good old days. You couldn't just > make repeated copies of the original because BACKUP only worked > on disks of exactly the same format and we used to change physical > disks all the time. 35 track, 40 track, 80 track, SS, DS, SDensity, > DDensity. I thought there was a single command to make the system > part and then you just added the Utilities you wanted. > > Does anyone have instructions on how to do this? > > bill >
Re: The TRS-80 Journey Continues
Well, I hope this doesn't sound too stupid but I have searched all the manuals I have and the web as well with no luck. How do I make a bootable floppy from a running hard disk system? Not copy an image to a floppy but build a bootable floppy disk on a real running system. I know it can be done because we had to do it all the time in the good old days. You couldn't just make repeated copies of the original because BACKUP only worked on disks of exactly the same format and we used to change physical disks all the time. 35 track, 40 track, 80 track, SS, DS, SDensity, DDensity. I thought there was a single command to make the system part and then you just added the Utilities you wanted. Does anyone have instructions on how to do this? bill
Re: Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division
Perhaps: "Molecular Electronics Branch, Electronic Technology Division, Air Force Avionics Laboratory, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio." On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:31 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division > thanks Ed# > > Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division
Who/what is Molecular Electronics Branch Electronic Technology Division thanks Ed# Sent from the all new AOL app for Android
Re: DEC H7822 power supply
Peter Coghlan wrote: > Tony Duell wrote: > > On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 1:02 PM Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > In the H7821 it's -9Vdc return pairing with -9Vdc supplied on the yellow > > > wire (an isolated circuit). Pin numbers 14 & 13. Try measuring voltage > > > across the suspicious connections as any reference to ground may not be > > > indicative. > > > > > > This voltage is also present with the H7819 PSU. It's not clear to me > > > what it is used for. > > > > It's only a guess (this is rather more modern than the DEC hardware I > > have), but it may be a supply for a thinwire ethernet transceiver > > circuit. This would be insolated from system ground of course, and > > I've seen something similar in an X-terminal. > > > > Hi Tony, > > After years of rediscovering the same failures over and over again, > I finally managed to get in the habit of making notes while I am > trying to diagnose faults. Now I just need to get in the habit of > reading my old notes when I start to work on a new fault. I did > that just now and I found that I have a MicroVAX 3100 model 76 whose > internal thinwire tranceiver failed last summer. Not finding any > obvious reason for the failure, I replaced it with an external > tranceiver plugged into the AUI port and then forgot all about it. > > I should check that this floating 9V output from it's H7821 PSU is > working correctly. > I checked it. It showed 4.4V and also seemed to be running rather hotter than the other H7821 PSUs I've been working with. I confirmed that the internal thinwire tranceiver is still not working. I swapped out the H7821 in favour of a known working H7821 which gave me 8.9V and the internal tranceiver then worked again. I put the faulty H7821 into the system that the good H7821 came from and confirmed that the internal tranceiver in that system now didn't work and the 9V supply was around 5V. With the different layout in this system, I was able to see that the rear fan in the power supply was not rotating which could account for it's higher temperature. On the offchance that this might also account for the low 9V supply, I tried unplugging the seized fan but this didn't make any difference. The 9V supply comes from a 78M09 which I hoped would be faulty because I can't make much sense of the circuit that feeds it. I pulled the same component from another older H7821 and it turned out to be a 7809 which I tried fitting in place of the 78M09 but the symptoms remained the same. Ahead of the 78M09 is another TO220 package marked D45H8 which seems to be a transistor. Then I am completely lost. I can't find the rectifier or the winding on the chopper transformer that is supposed to produce power for this part of the circuit. Making comparison resistance tests between the faulty H7821 and another one showed up some discrepancies around the 78M09 / 7809 and the D45H8 however the former were probably because of the differences between a 78M09 and a 7809 and in the latter case, the D45H8 looked reasonable when tested out of circuit. The faulty H7821 has seen orders of magnitude more usage than any of my others but it still has it's original SXF electrolytics which are not showing any signs of leakage yet that I can see without unsoldering them. It's been the right way up pretty much forever. Thanks Maciej and Tony for leading me to the cause of this issue. Another mystery (almost) solved. Regards, Peter. > > (I wonder why it is described as -9V on the label of the 30-35042-01 PSU > in my VAX 4000/100A? If it had been shown as +/-9V for example or even > just plain old 9V, I would have been less inclined to assume it was > referenced to ground.) > > Regards, > Peter. > > > > > -tony > > > > > > > > > > > > Maciej
Re: "newer" vintage computers, parts, electronics for sale $100 LARGE lot
On 5/10/22 10:12 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: They're yours if you or someone can pick them up here. Thank you for the kind offer. Unfortunately I'm multiple states away and am in no position to make such a journey. I have other Sun hardware, but I only can support one or two Sun's of my own for these can go to a good home if I can find one. :-) Supposedly someone is coming today to get it all, but I can set aside the Suns if you want them. If the person coming to get the equipment today has any interest in them, please let them take the Suns. If they have no interest, there may be others (possibly myself at some point in the future) that would be interested in buying them and having them shipped. I suspect that there are Sun specific venues; sunhelp / rescue mailing lists come to mind, that might have a higher density of Sun specific interested parties. I have more than just the items I've listed in the link above that also have to go, but these I will sell one at a time and as time permits. I'd be interested in looking at such listings in the future. If nothing else, living vicariously through others. :-) -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: "newer" vintage computers, parts, electronics for sale $100 LARGE lot
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:58 AM Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/10/22 3:13 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Correct, they are Sun servers. I forgot they were there in the pic > > when I made the listing. I have been trying to find a home for them > > for months. Not "vintage enough" > > Does "trying to find a home for them" mean in your collection or > somebody else's caring server farm? They're yours if you or someone can pick them up here. I have other Sun hardware, but I only can support one or two Sun's of my own for these can go to a good home if I can find one. > I don't know how /quickly/ you will move the lot as you've got it > listed. But I do believe that /someone/ *will* /happily/ take the lot > from you as it is. It seems to be a very reasonably price for what you > get. It also looks like there are multiple pieces that will very likely > the new server farmer will move things on to other peoples gardens. (If > I can continue the metaphor.) > Supposedly someone is coming today to get it all, but I can set aside the Suns if you want them. I have more than just the items I've listed in the link above that also have to go, but these I will sell one at a time and as time permits. Bill kennettclassic.com
Re: "newer" vintage computers, parts, electronics for sale $100 LARGE lot
On 5/10/22 3:13 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Correct, they are Sun servers. I forgot they were there in the pic when I made the listing. I have been trying to find a home for them for months. Not "vintage enough" Does "trying to find a home for them" mean in your collection or somebody else's caring server farm? This is the classic vintage computing dilemna... all items of tech go through their worthless phase before they again become sought after. Few have the vision to collect the will-be-gems, waiting instead to be told what is "vintage". I get it. In my case I have limits to.space. I have set aside a few things I like and the rest is basically up for.grabs. To.avoid the stuff to.go to a scrapper I have set a price to ensure someone who actually wants the items I don't know how /quickly/ you will move the lot as you've got it listed. But I do believe that /someone/ *will* /happily/ take the lot from you as it is. It seems to be a very reasonably price for what you get. It also looks like there are multiple pieces that will very likely the new server farmer will move things on to other peoples gardens. (If I can continue the metaphor.) -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Looking for ESDI controller for QBus
Does anybody have one they can spare? I have a DQ696 that I have to share between by 11/73 and MicroVax 2 - the Sigma RQD11 I have on the Microvax died with an internal failure and i don;t have any kind of test frame, or the space for one, to try and repair it. Cash or trade would be good. cheers, Nigel -- Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591
Re: "newer" vintage computers, parts, electronics for sale $100 LARGE lot
Correct, they are Sun servers. I forgot they were there in the pic when I made the listing. I have been trying to find a home for them for months. Not "vintage enough" This is the classic vintage computing dilemna... all items of tech go through their worthless phase before they again become sought after. Few have the vision to collect the will-be-gems, waiting instead to be told what is "vintage". In my case I have limits to.space. I have set aside a few things I like and the rest is basically up for.grabs. To.avoid the stuff to.go to a scrapper I have set a price to ensure someone who actually wants the items B On Tue, May 10, 2022, 1:25 AM Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 5/9/22 3:54 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > > https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/kennett-square-vintage-computers/7480814347.html > > What are the two (identical) 1U servers that are missing the face / > bezel in picture 17? They look suspiciously like a Sun 1U server I have. > > If they are Sun servers, there are probably people that will give you > the asking price just for them. > > The TiVo will probably attack some attention to. > > Sadly, the pictures probably aren't doing this much justice. > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die >
