[cctalk] Re: PDP 11/34 or 11/04 front panel question
Thanks for the suggestion Tom. I have thought about it, but it would have to be a very thin type of tape. Also very precise positioning of the plastic sheet onto the aluminium plate is required as once the tape sticks to the other half it won't allow for repositioning. Some form of solvent free glue which does not attack the paint would be better as you can reposition at least for a few seconds. On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 3:33 PM Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Tom Hunter via cctalk writes: > > > Any suggestions, advice or tips? > > Have you considered simply using double sided tape? > > -tih > -- > Most people who graduate with CS degrees don't understand the significance > of Lisp. Lisp is the most important idea in computer science. --Alan Kay >
[cctalk] Re: PDP 11/34 or 11/04 front panel question
On 11/6/23 19:33, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Has anyone successfully glued back the plastic sheet to the aluminium plate? If yes, what type of glue did you use and how exactly did you do the operation? Any suggestions, advice or tips? Thanks and best regards Tom Hunter 3M markets several different types of double-sided adhesive sheets that can be positioned by applying the sheet to one part and then wetting the other part, usually with Windex. Once you've got the position correct you squeegee the liquid and any bubbles out to the edges. I couldn't say whether the adhesives would damage your plastic, but given that there's no curing involved I doubt there'd be any at all. If you're willing to endure some hold time 3M might even help you with that. Doc
[cctalk] Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements
Hello, After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of the warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the installation of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this process is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or documentation as such. On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops. As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse, and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof* that the item you are describing is your possession. *ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE THE POSSESSIONS OF VCF.* Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized. Thanks, Thomas Gilinsky Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager
[cctalk] Re: Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements
How long do people with tagged items have beyond 1 January 2024 to claim their items? (clarifying, otherwise everyone will tag their items and the problem will not be solved!). -- Will On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM Thomas G via cctalk wrote: > > Hello, > > After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of > reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof > repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of the > warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the installation > of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this process > is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own > personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or > documentation as such. > > On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for > renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted > in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF > Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops. > > As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse, > and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to > collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or > Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof* > that the item you are describing is your possession. > > *ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE THE > POSSESSIONS OF VCF.* > Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other > areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized. > > Thanks, > Thomas Gilinsky > Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager
[cctalk] Re: Announcement of VCFed warehouse closure & improvements
If your item is tagged, it will be removed from the warehouse and stored in a secure area on-campus until you are able to collect it. I understand that the 2-3 weeks before the warehouse is closed will be hectic for most people given the holidays, so I do not expect everyone to come to collect, but I do implore everyone with possessions in the building to at least notify Doug or me so that we can tag & isolate it. I have heard of incidents in the past where people's personal property has been misidentified as warehouse surplus and disposed of - I want to avoid this more than anything else. Once the warehouse is closed, if there are still uncollected items, we will of course periodically nag people to come collect them. Another important thing to note to everyone - if you claim to own an item in the warehouse, and we later find that it either did not belong to you or had been *donated* to VCF, there will be trouble - not just for you, but for us. Please don't defraud museums! -Thomas Gilinsky On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:43 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > How long do people with tagged items have beyond 1 January 2024 to > claim their items? > > (clarifying, otherwise everyone will tag their items and the problem > will not be solved!). > > -- > Will > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:17 AM Thomas G via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > After 18 years of acquiring artifacts, our warehouse is in need of > > reorganization, as well as major renovation work - climate control, roof > > repairs, etc. A total restructuring, inventorying, and refurbishment of > the > > warehouse is planned to commence soon - some steps such as the > installation > > of climate control have already been taken - however, planning this > process > > is made difficult by the fact that a number of our members have their own > > personal belongings stored within, many without proper tagging or > > documentation as such. > > > > On January 1st, 2024, the VCF warehouse at Infoage will be closed for > > renovation and organization. During this time, no items will be permitted > > in or out of the warehouse bar those permitted *directly* by the VCF > > Warehouse manager - Thomas Gilinsky - during monthly repair workshops. > > > > As such, if you have any personal belongings stored within the warehouse, > > and would like to retrieve it, or have it tagged and set aside for you to > > collect later, please contact either me at thomas.gilin...@vcfed.org, or > > Doug at douglas.crawf...@vcfed.org. Please provide *verifiable* *proof* > > that the item you are describing is your possession. > > > > *ITEMS WHICH ARE NOT CLAIMED BY JANUARY 1ST, 2024 WILL BE ASSUMED TO BE > THE > > POSSESSIONS OF VCF.* > > Donations to VCF will still be accepted during this time - we have other > > areas to store them while the warehouse is reorganized. > > > > Thanks, > > Thomas Gilinsky > > Vintage Computer Federation Warehouse Manager >
[cctalk] Installing DEC C on RSTS/E
Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what the extension suggests. Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it and RSTS can see the tape contents. Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C tape again (labels don't match). So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure handy? paul
[cctalk] Re: Installing DEC C on RSTS/E
> On Nov 7, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > Hi... I'm seriously rusty on official RSTS installation procedures. I'm > trying to install DEC C using the C_V1_2.tap file from the bitsavers > bits/DEC/pdp11/rsts directory. It's actually a TPC file, in spite of what > the extension suggests. Once I supply the correct format, SIMH recognizes it > and RSTS can see the tape contents. > > Then I try @[0,1]install c81. Point to the tape, answer the destination, and > then it asks me for the "library" tape and complains when I give it the C > tape again (labels don't match). > > So what is it looking for? Does anyone have the C installation procedure > handy? > > paul Never mind... (a) C81 is COBOL (!!) not C. And I found the C installation manual on STUPI. Off & running now. paul