[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 5:09 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Fyi, if you have small hands you can get work as a hand model. E.G. > Holding a bottle of liquor makes it look big. > I think that also works in porn. I played Steve Wozniak's hands in the A&E Biography of the same (circa 2002-2003?) Sellam
[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books
Fyi, if you have small hands you can get work as a hand model. E.G. Holding a bottle of liquor makes it look big. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2024, at 03:55, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk > wrote: > > In my first job,I was a trainee Field Engineer on a Univac 418 system at > Bell Canada which ran a store-and-forward message service to hundreds of > Model 33 and 35 teletypes across the nation. > > Bell wanted to promote it, so they hired a movie producer. I happened to be > on duty that day. > > The man insisted I push some paper tape into the reader the wrong way. I > explained that I could strip the machine down and show him the ratchet > proving the direction but he wouldn't hear it. He said 'he had seen one of > those before'. > > I have used this as an example to my students why everything you see in a > movie is fantasy! > > cheers, > > Nigel > > > >> On 2024-03-18 06:08, Norman Jaffe via cctalk wrote: >> I had the same experience while working for a (very) small company called >> Northwest Digital Research. >> I was asked to point to a big HP plotter that was running one of our >> programs... and the photograph wound up in our product brochure. >> Of course, I had nothing to do with that program... >> >> From: "Mark Linimon via cctalk" To: "General >> Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: "Mark >> Linimon" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 5:43:13 PM >> Subject: [cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books >> >>> were just DEC employees that caught somebody's eye when they were >>> planning the shots. >> "Planning" may assume facts not in evidence :-) >> >> Some photographers wandered around my employer of the time, Recognition >> Equipment. (Like my Canadian girlfriend, you haven't heard of it.) >> I was near enough to a piece of machinery to be told "point to >> that console like you are doing something to it". So somewhere >> in some ancient Annual Report you can find a picture of a clean- >> shaven me. My 15 seconds of fame. >> >> Well maybe not all 15. >> >> So the "plan" was, we're on deadline, get some shots. >> >> mcl > > -- > Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU > Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! > Skype: TILBURY2591 >
[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books
In my first job,I was a trainee Field Engineer on a Univac 418 system at Bell Canada which ran a store-and-forward message service to hundreds of Model 33 and 35 teletypes across the nation. Bell wanted to promote it, so they hired a movie producer. I happened to be on duty that day. The man insisted I push some paper tape into the reader the wrong way. I explained that I could strip the machine down and show him the ratchet proving the direction but he wouldn't hear it. He said 'he had seen one of those before'. I have used this as an example to my students why everything you see in a movie is fantasy! cheers, Nigel On 2024-03-18 06:08, Norman Jaffe via cctalk wrote: I had the same experience while working for a (very) small company called Northwest Digital Research. I was asked to point to a big HP plotter that was running one of our programs... and the photograph wound up in our product brochure. Of course, I had nothing to do with that program... From: "Mark Linimon via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: "Mark Linimon" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 5:43:13 PM Subject: [cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books were just DEC employees that caught somebody's eye when they were planning the shots. "Planning" may assume facts not in evidence :-) Some photographers wandered around my employer of the time, Recognition Equipment. (Like my Canadian girlfriend, you haven't heard of it.) I was near enough to a piece of machinery to be told "point to that console like you are doing something to it". So somewhere in some ancient Annual Report you can find a picture of a clean- shaven me. My 15 seconds of fame. Well maybe not all 15. So the "plan" was, we're on deadline, get some shots. mcl -- Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591
[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books
A photographer wandered around my workplace looking at all of the men's hands. They were doing a closeup shot and needed just hands. More than a little strange. On Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 6:15 AM Norman Jaffe via cctalk wrote: > I had the same experience while working for a (very) small company called > Northwest Digital Research. > I was asked to point to a big HP plotter that was running one of our > programs... and the photograph wound up in our product brochure. > Of course, I had nothing to do with that program... > > From: "Mark Linimon via cctalk" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Cc: "Mark Linimon" > Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 5:43:13 PM > Subject: [cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books > > > were just DEC employees that caught somebody's eye when they were > > planning the shots. > > "Planning" may assume facts not in evidence :-) > > Some photographers wandered around my employer of the time, Recognition > Equipment. (Like my Canadian girlfriend, you haven't heard of it.) > I was near enough to a piece of machinery to be told "point to > that console like you are doing something to it". So somewhere > in some ancient Annual Report you can find a picture of a clean- > shaven me. My 15 seconds of fame. > > Well maybe not all 15. > > So the "plan" was, we're on deadline, get some shots. > > mcl >
[cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books
I had the same experience while working for a (very) small company called Northwest Digital Research. I was asked to point to a big HP plotter that was running one of our programs... and the photograph wound up in our product brochure. Of course, I had nothing to do with that program... From: "Mark Linimon via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: "Mark Linimon" Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2024 5:43:13 PM Subject: [cctalk] Re: DEC Processor Books > were just DEC employees that caught somebody's eye when they were > planning the shots. "Planning" may assume facts not in evidence :-) Some photographers wandered around my employer of the time, Recognition Equipment. (Like my Canadian girlfriend, you haven't heard of it.) I was near enough to a piece of machinery to be told "point to that console like you are doing something to it". So somewhere in some ancient Annual Report you can find a picture of a clean- shaven me. My 15 seconds of fame. Well maybe not all 15. So the "plan" was, we're on deadline, get some shots. mcl
[cctalk] Re: Two IBM 360's available in the UK
> -Original Message- > From: Christian Corti via cctalk > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 8:03 AM > To: Adam Bradley via cctalk > Cc: Christian Corti > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Two IBM 360's available in the UK > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Adam Bradley wrote: > > Some of you may remember that I (Adam) and another chap (Chris) > > rescued two IBM 360/20 systems out of an abandoned building in > > Nuremberg back in 2019 and brought them to the UK (our blog is here: > https://www.ibm360.co.uk/). > > > > We have since basically found ourselves unable to effectively progress > > the project due to personal & professional commitments. For various > > reasons (explained in our latest blog post) we are testing the waters > > for making the machines available to the right sort of people. > > Sad to hear that. > We (Computermuseum Stuttgart) did place a bid, too. We were a bit > disappointed that instead of going just 200km, it went abroad to a now non-EU > country (which makes re-importing unattractive). But then, after we saw the > pictures of the house and the system, we were somehow glad that we did not > win ;-) We realised that, first, the overall condition is unknown or bad, and > second, it is simply not worth more than a couple of hundred Euros considering > all the forthcoming costs and time needed to transport the lot, store and restore > it etc. > I don't know if History@IBM was interested, though (they have a working > 360/20 system). And maybe the Vintage Computing Lab in Munich was > interested, too (they have a large mainframes collection, and also the last IBM > 705, although not complete). > I guess that the UK /360s are now "lost" for any non-profit/non-budget museum > in the EU. Why should this be. I don't believe there is any import duty on items for exhibit in a museum. Any VAT should be on the current value. Yes there would be the cost of transport, but I am sure that could be crowd funded or otherwise sorted. I think the big question is, could it realistically be restored? Who would actually want to do this if they don't own it and don't have any guaranteed future rights. These questions are why many Museums only accept unconditional donations, but its also why people don't want to donate to museums as the future of the objects can be uncertain. > > > Christian Dave
[cctalk] Bitsavers Zuse scans
With great interest, I have seen that there are now scans for the Z23 (perhaps more coming soon :-) ). But I have to admit that I am so much disappointed of the quality. I mean, whoever scanned this all, did he have a single look at the output? I do this, for each of the many scans, may they be only a single or many hundred pages. Example: .../zuse/Z23/Zuse_Z23_Beschreibung_einschlie%c3%9flich_der_Zusazgeräte_Februar_1962.pdf PDF pages 16/17: this is a no-go. This must not happen in a document uploaded to bitsavers. Pages 32-35 (and many others, too): what the heck happened here?? And there appears to have been some "intelligent" post-processing of the images that renders them very artificially. Sorry for the rant, but that is not what I would accept as archiving material. I'd offer to rescan them (guessing that the origin is from Germany) reasonably. Christian
[cctalk] Re: Two IBM 360's available in the UK
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, Adam Bradley wrote: Some of you may remember that I (Adam) and another chap (Chris) rescued two IBM 360/20 systems out of an abandoned building in Nuremberg back in 2019 and brought them to the UK (our blog is here: https://www.ibm360.co.uk/). We have since basically found ourselves unable to effectively progress the project due to personal & professional commitments. For various reasons (explained in our latest blog post) we are testing the waters for making the machines available to the right sort of people. Sad to hear that. We (Computermuseum Stuttgart) did place a bid, too. We were a bit disappointed that instead of going just 200km, it went abroad to a now non-EU country (which makes re-importing unattractive). But then, after we saw the pictures of the house and the system, we were somehow glad that we did not win ;-) We realised that, first, the overall condition is unknown or bad, and second, it is simply not worth more than a couple of hundred Euros considering all the forthcoming costs and time needed to transport the lot, store and restore it etc. I don't know if History@IBM was interested, though (they have a working 360/20 system). And maybe the Vintage Computing Lab in Munich was interested, too (they have a large mainframes collection, and also the last IBM 705, although not complete). I guess that the UK /360s are now "lost" for any non-profit/non-budget museum in the EU. Christian