[cctalk] Re: LCM auction
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 01:26:48PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > > Fred Cisin wrote: > > > > > > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > > > > > > > TECO > > > > Don > Does anybody use that any more? > > > Yes, and mung also. Don
[cctalk] Re: LCM auction
> Fred Cisin wrote: > > > We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs. > TECO Don
Re: General Data? Computer Equipment Auction - GSA
Nova 1200 ? On Sat Mar 12 19:27:24 2022 cctalk@classiccmp.org (Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk) wrote: > > Looks more like Data General to me with that blue livery > > Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU > Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! > Skype: TILBURY2591 > > > On 2022-03-12 19:10, STAN IRWIN via cctalk wrote: > > Found an interesting item for bid on GSA auction site if anyone interested. > > > > Reminds me of General Data equipment... > > https://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/?sl=31QSCI22048010 > > > > > > Sorry, link did not send correctly on first try. > > Stan Irwin > >
Re: VAX9000 unearthed
There's an issue of DTJ dedicated to the 9000: http://dtjcd.vmsresource.org.uk/pdfs/dtj_v02-04_1990.pdf On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:01:40PM +, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > On 18/02/2022 17:16, Lee Courtney via cctalk wrote: > > Paul, > > > > What was the timeframe for the MPP? > > > > Lee > > > The earliest DECmpp reference I can find is from 1991: > > https://eisner.decus.org/anon/htnotes/note?f1=INDUSTRY_NEWS&f2=551.1 > > You can peruse the service manual here: > > http://manx-docs.org/collections/mds-199909/cd2/decmpp/decacsmc.pdf > > > There are other docs that you can most easily find by searching for "DECmpp" > on manx. > > > Antonio > > > -- > Antonio Carlini > anto...@acarlini.com > >
Re: Scanning Suggestions (Bookmarks & Colour)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 05:55:44PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I was also just thinking you would probably have to have a layer (black) with > all of the > stuff to OCR including the stuff in red and blue, then overlay the color on > that > after the pass through whatever you're using to do the OCR. > > The one bottleneck I would really like to fix is getting the 24 cores on my > machine doing > OCR on 24 different pages at the same time. > > The documentation for ocrmypdf describes how to do that. https://ocrmypdf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ and https://ocrmypdf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/batch.html Don
Re: Pro350/"XT" pre-release documents
Hi Chris, The SPSS manual by Nie, Hull, Jenkins,... would certainly be interesting. Don On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 05:03:46PM -0400, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Hi! > > Given that other people seem interested in the Pro/350 series systems I > thought I would dig out and scan some of the remaining manuals I have. These > seem to have come from an agreement with SPSS back in 1982 or so and all > appear to be draft documents. > > I'll upload them as I scan them (takes time) to https://www.crystel.com/pdp > > I'll upload a PDF file along with a zip file of the scans at 300dpi. > > Question: Would the SPSS manuals be interesting? > > Also I have an RSX11M 3.2 manual set in a big binder, worth scanning or is > that up there already? I'm assuming the Fortran manuals have already been > scanned in the past. > > Final thought: Looks like I have the spss/x floppies for the Pro version > 1.0, are those out there somewhere already? > > Thanks! > Chris
PDP-10 I/O notes
For what it's worth I've posted some notes on PDP-10 I/O from a course taught by Mike Bennett at UWO in the early 1970s. The monitor at the time was likely prior to 5.06. See: http://www.execulink.com/~dstalk/pdp-10_io.pdf Don
Re: misc stuff - free
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 08:27:53PM -0500, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/14/20 8:20 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > > At 10:37 AM 12/14/2020, Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > > Softech microsystems UCSD p-System 8" floppy disks: > > > > I would've paid for shipping these, if anyone is visiting to > > grab anything. I'm in Wisconsin. I'd at least want to know > > someone imaged them. > > > > What version of UCSD-Pascal and for what system? > > bill > Sorry Bill but all I know is what's written on the labels. Don
DEC stuff - free
I'm listing this stuff just in case someone is desperate for any of it. All items are as-is and free. Pickup only here in London, ON. I'm too old and too tired to run around shipping things. I'll hold on to this stuff for a couple of weeks; after that it's the recycling bin. Hardware: 12 x M594 2 x M971 M970 R002 BC08R-01 H8611 VT-52 coils (flyback, etc) VT-100 current loop interface card VAX PASCAL manuals: AA-D030A-TE VAX/VMS Primer (VMS V01) SPD 25.11.4 VAX-11 PASCAL 1.1 AA-H484A-TE VAX-11 PASCAL Language Reference Manual AA-H485A-TE VAX-11 PASCAL User's Guide AA-J181A-TE VAX-11 PASCAL Installation GUide/Release Notes AA-J180A-TE VAX-11 PASCAL Primer 3" DEC binder for the PASCAL manuals single package of prints: PC11 M7810-C-1 "11/25/74" Asynchronous Line Interface M7800-0-1 "75" DL11-0-2 Installation Procedure "4-75" LP11 Interface M7930-0-1 RK05-0-2 "72" RK11-D-1 "73" individual prints: DUV11-DA-1 Field Maintenance Print Set "12-13-76" PC11-0 engineering drawings "70" H720-E Fiche: 2 x DECUS PDP-11 Catalog 1977 DECUS PDP-11 Catalog 1978 Logic Handbook 1970 Logic Handbook 1973-74 Control handbook 1969 Manuals: VT100 User Guide EK-VT100-UG-002 VT52 DECscope Maintenance Manual EK-VT52-MM-001 (1976) RTM Register Transfer Modules (1973) Media: EC-N4783-48 ManageWORKS Workgroup Administrator & SDK March 1995 (trial software) DECdirect CD Catalog Winter 1995 ONYX Electronic Systems and Options Catalog V1.0 (floppies) Listings: MAINDEC-11-DEFPB-A-D Feb 21, 1976 PDP11-45/55/70 FP11C part 2 MAINDEC-11-DEFPA-A-D Feb 21, 1976 PDP11-45/55/70 FP11C part 1 MAINDEC-11-DCKBA to DCKBE-C-D March 21, 1975 PDP11/45-11/40 BASIC CP TESTS
misc stuff - free
I'm listing this stuff just in case someone is desperate for any of it. All items are as-is and free. Pickup only here in London, ON. I'm too old and too tired to run around shipping things. I'll hold on to this stuff for a couple of weeks; after that it's the recycling bin. Softech microsystems UCSD p-System 8" floppy disks: CPM40D CPMDISK (BOOTER) UG84AT.C UPGRADE IV.03 Jun 16 1982 N8P4AT 8080 NATIVE CODE GENERATOR Jun 16 1982 LXP4BT UCSD Pascal Compiler Jan 1983 LXP4AT.B UCSD Pascal Compiler Jun 16 1982 UGC4AT.A UPGRADE Jun 16 1982 OII40D ADAP ORIENTER Jan 5 1983 IZP4BT.B Interpreter Jan 26 1983 CZP4BT.B CPM ADAPTABLE Jan 26 1983 SAP4BT.A SYSTEM Jan 26 1983 CPM4BD CPM READABLE Jan 26 1983 N8P4BT 8086 Native Code Genator (sic) Jan 26 1983 Hayes V-series Smartmodem 9600 (in box) XT parallel port card Apple mouse A2M4015 2 x Tandem binders 1 x GA binder General Automation GA-16/220/330 microconsole and system console reference card Raytheon PTS-100 reference card Interdata model 70 and 80 programmer's guide reference card (1971) Databooks: M6800 Microcomputer Family - a 79 page Motorola pamphlet containing specs etc. AMD Am29800 Family High Performance Bus Interface 1981 AMD MOS/LSI Data Book 1976 Synertek 1979 Data Catalog Microprocessor Data Package - International Electronics Unlimited booklet on IMP MM5750, MM5751 CPU set Data Sheets: CR-112 4K MOS RAMs from Texas Instruments - reliability report for TMS 4030, 4050, 4060 IMS2620 High Performance 16Kx4 Dynanic RAM - inmos #110 May 1983 IMS2630 High Performance 8Kx4 Dynanic RAM - inmos #111 November 1983 IMS2600 High Performance 64Kx1 Dynanic RAM - inmos #101 November 1983 GTE 8104/8114 Static RAMs 1024x8 N-MOS April 1980 Texas Instruments MOS/LSI Memory and Microprocessor Products June 1976 Books: The SNOBOL4 Programming Language - Griswold et al Manuals: Courier 270 Information Display System Operator's Manual pub # 30-0002-00-00 Jun 1975 ICC 40+ Data Display System Installation and Operation GA 16/220 prints - this is a very complete set: CUP NO. I, CPU NO. II, SYS. CNSL. INTF. W/IPL, 8K RAM, MEMORY SERVICE MODULE, TTY/with PS, RS-232/TTY, COMPACT MIB, COMPACT PS
Macro-10 humour
I came across this among some junk I had. Don .TY NEMON.DOC LEVEL 5 MACRO-10 MNEMONICS = COINCIDENT WITH THE RELEASE OF THE LEVEL 5 MONITOR SERIES, THE MNEMONICS FOR THE HARDWARE INSTRUCTIONS USED IN THE MACRO-10 ASSEMBLER HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT CHANGES TO THE MONITOR, AND NEW OPERATING PROCEDURES. ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE NOT ALL BEEN IMPLEMENTED AS YET, A PARTIAL LISTING FOLLOWS: TRCETRANSLATE REDUNDANT CODE TO ETHIOPIAN ROTCREQUEST OPERATOR TAKE OFF CLOTHES TDCETRY TO DUMP CORE EVERYWHERE HRR HASH RELOCATION REGISTERS XCT EXTEND CYCLE TIME ANDCMB ALLOW NO DIRECT CURRENT IN MEMORY BANKS AOSEALERT ONE SYSTEMS ENGINEER SETNM START EJECTING TRANSISTORS AT NEAREST MACHINE SETCM STOP EVERYTHING TO CRASH MONITOR SETAM START EATING TAPE ON ALTERNATE MONDAYS TLCNTHROW LIFEPRESERVER INTO CHANNEL FOR NON-SWIMMER MULMMONITOR UPDATE FROM LUNAR MODULE MOVMS MAINTAIN ONLY VARIABLE MAGTAPE SPEED FSBRI FIVE SONIC BOOMS OVER REMOTE INTERFACE HRRES HIJACK REMOTE READER TO ENGINEERING SCIENCE HRREM HALT AND REVERSE ROTATION ON EVERY MAGTAPE JUMPE JUMBLE USERS' MEMORY ON PARITY ERROR IDPBIMMEDIATELY DROP PARITY BIT SETCAI SUDDENLY ELECTRIFY TERMINAL ON CRUDELY ARTICULATED INPUT JFFOJAIL AND FINGERPRINT FLIPPANT OPERATOR ORCMB OPERATOR REQUEST TO CHANGE MAIN BATTERIES SKIPSEARCH FOR KNOT IN INPUT STRING SKIPL SKIP ON KNOT IN POWER LINE ORCBI ORDER REDUNDANT CHANNELS TO THE BACK OF THE I/O BUS SUBISTART UNLOADING BAGGAGE FROM THE I/O BUS PUSHPUNCH USING SEMI-CIRCULAR HOLES JUMPL JUMP AND UNRAVEL MAIN POWER LINE SOSLSMEAR OUTPUT ON SLOW LINE PRINTERS TRONTRY TO REWIND OPERATORS' NECKTIE SOSNSEND OUTPUT TO SUPERVISORS' NECKTIE AOBJN ADD ONE BIT TO JOB NUMBER IMULM INSIST THAT MALICIOUS USERS BE LOCKED IN MEMORY FMPRFORGET MEMORY PROTECTION AND RELOCATION FMPRB FAKE MONITOR PROBLEMS AND RESET BRIEFLY CAIECHANGE ADDRESSING TO INEFFECTIVE FROM EFFECTIVE TRN TRANSLATE TO ROMAN NUMERALS DPB DETACH PROCESSOR BRIEFLY DIVBDECODE INTEGERS TO VERIFIED BRAILLE SETCAI SNICKER ON ERRONEOUS TYPEIN FOR CAI DIVMB DESTROY INDIVIDUAL MEMORY BANK ORCBOUTPUT A RECORD CODED IN BRAILLE TRCETRANSFER ON ROMAN CATHOLIC ENGINEER TLNETRANSFER ON LUTHERAN ENGINEER TROATRANSFER ON ATHEIST SOS SERVICE ONLY STUDENTS SOJGSERVICE ONLY JEWISH GRAD STUDENTS TDC TAKE DISK TO CHIROPRACTER TSCATURN SYSTEM CLOCK AHEAD FADRB FILTER AIR ON DETECTING ROPE BURNING FADMFILTER AIR ON DETECTING MOUNTIE PUSHJ PROCESS USER'S SHORTHAND JOB TDCATYPE DOCUMENTATION, CENSORING ANECDOTES MOVEM MONITOR OUTPUTS A VULGAR ERROR MESSAGE ADDMALLEVIATE DELAYS IN DECTAPE MOUNTING AOSLAWAKEN OPERATOR IF SNORING LOUDLY CAIECENSOR ALL INPUT FROM ENGINEERING DPB DISPLAY PASSWORDS FROM BATCH FSBMFAST SPLICE OF BROKEN MAGTAPE BLT BEGIN LOSING TIME S0JGSTACK OPERATOR (JUST GIRLS) TSONTIME SLICE OF ONE NANOSECOND JRSTJOG 'ROUND SEVEN TRACK TAPE TSC TRANSFER SWAPPING TO CARDS
DEC RTM book
I've searched for this but couldn't find it... Does anyone know if the DEC book "RTM: Register Transfer Modules" published in 1973 is available online? It's an 8.5 x 11 book with red cover and has 50 pages. I think it came with their RTM kit. Don
ftgh 95 ohm coax
ftgh: a few lengths of 95 ohm coax pickup-only here in London, ON
Re: CMU Andrew system (and wm) preservation
On Mon Sep 7 15:29:51 2020 cctalk@classiccmp.org (Michael Kerpan via cctalk) wrote: > > Has anybody even been able to get the X-based version to build? I remember > finding it on some Unix/Linux source code CD-ROM like 20 years ago, > thinking it sounded useful and cool, and trying to build it on whatever > Linux I was using on my hand-me-down 486 back in 1999/2000. Even back then, > it didn't build for me. > > Mike > The version that came with Yggdrasil Linux back in 1993 included binaries ans source. That distro had 0.99.13 kernel, gcc-2.4.5, and XFree86-1.2. So, it did build at one time. don
Re: CMU Andrew system (and wm) preservation
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 12:21:56PM -0700, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > Back before X11 took off, IBM funded CMU's development of Andrew, which had > its own complete window system represented by its "wm" window manager. One of > the many things that led to X's prevalence was that to get ahold of Andrew > and wm, you had to license it from IBM, whereas X was licensed freely by MIT > and available via FTP, tape, etc. > > When I was at CMU in the early through mid 1990s, the CMU Computer Club > continued to maintain a fork of "wm" called "wmc" that was available to club > members, including source code. While I'm pretty sure I have an archive of > this code on a Zip disk somewhere, I thought I'd put out the call to the > community to see if anyone else had preserved early Andrew bits since they're > both historically important and architecturally interesting. > > What's architecturally interesting about them? Among other things, CMU > created their own shared library mechanism for Andrew, and their own object > oriented dialect of C (implemented via a separate preprocessor) that was > surprisingly similar to Objective-C. The entire Andrew system was also > component-oriented, such that it supported embedding components for handling > different media types within each other, while keeping the embedded ones > editable -- most of what developers got later with OLE and OpenDoc. > > So it'd be great if this stuff was archived in such a way that it could be > used with contemporary systems, whether emulated or real hardware. Has anyone > done any of this yet? > > -- Chris > Forgive a dumb question, but is this somehow related to the Andrew Tool Kit or the Andrew User Interface System? don
Re: POP-2 silver book
Thanks, page 261 has been found! Now for POP-2 or POP-10. Don
POP-2 silver book
Is there anyone out there who could scan page 261 of "Programming in POP-2" by Burstall, Collins, and Popplestone for me? Also, does anyone have a copy of POP-10? Thanks, Don
Re: Operation Codes
In the early 1970s I remember seeing similer things for the PDP-10 and PDP-15. On Mon Dec 3 07:02:18 2018 cct...@classiccmp.org (Paul Birkel via cctech) wrote: > > https://www.asc.ohio-state.edu/dunlap.3/humor/instruction.set.html > > > > ERS Erase Read-only Storage > > FPT Fire Photon Torpedoes > > GCAR Get Correct Answer Regardless > > XIO Execute Invalid Op code > > > > Among others! > > > > - > >
Re: RT-11 DY install
On Wed Oct 17 19:19:20 2018 cctalk@classiccmp.org (Jerry Weiss via cctalk) wrote: > > On 10/17/18 1:53 PM, Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > I'm trying to use a simulated RX02 disk (under simh) with RT-11 > > and can't seem to get the DY driver to install. > > > > Here's the relevant log: > > > > sim> set ry enabled > > sim> att ry0 ry0.dsk > > RY: creating new file > > RY: buffering file in memory > > sim> c > > > > > > .install dy > > ?KMON-F-Invalid device installation DL0:DY.SYS > > > > .dir dy.sys > > > > DY.SYS 4P 20-Dec-85 > > 1 Files, 4 Blocks > > 14841 Free blocks > > > > I've tried with 2 different software "kits", the one from the simh site > > and the one from bitsavers. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, Don > > > > Try > set cpu 256K > set rx disable > set ry enable > > show ry > RY=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 address=3D1170-1173, vector=3D264, BR5, 2 un= > its > =C2=A0 RY0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 512KB, not attached, write enabled > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 double density > =C2=A0 RY1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 512KB, not attached, write enabled > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 double density > > Note: Apparently the RY emulation won't load if more than 256K memory is=20 > specified as the DEC hardware did not support DMA in a 22bit box.=C2=A0=C2= > =A0 I'm=20 > entirely not sure why SIMH has to enforce this as its possible to work=20 > around (e.g. TSX+ supports buffering the IO). Anyone know how to=20 > override and load in SIMH? > > > Jerry > Thanks Jerry. That's "fixed" it. Since simh didn't complain about my "set ry enabled" I assumed (wrongly) that that wasn't the issue. Thanks to all the other's who replied. Don
RT-11 DY install
I'm trying to use a simulated RX02 disk (under simh) with RT-11 and can't seem to get the DY driver to install. Here's the relevant log: sim> set ry enabled sim> att ry0 ry0.dsk RY: creating new file RY: buffering file in memory sim> c .install dy ?KMON-F-Invalid device installation DL0:DY.SYS .dir dy.sys DY.SYS 4P 20-Dec-85 1 Files, 4 Blocks 14841 Free blocks I've tried with 2 different software "kits", the one from the simh site and the one from bitsavers. Any ideas? Thanks, Don
