[cctalk] Re: Commodore Hyperion was Re: First non-IBM PC-DOS Compatible PC

2023-06-06 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 1:09 PM Santo Nucifora via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Sellam,
>
> Bo Zimmerman at Zimmers.net has a picture of one here:
>
> http://www.zimmers.net/commie/canonical.php?UPTOP=PC+Series=1=PC-3052
>
> Here is one booting up on Youtube:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnPXH1Fy5w
>
> The quality is not great for either of them and there are no internal
> pictures, unfortunately.  I don't know if it's the same one but it looks
> like the front mold was changed so there must have been more than one.
>
> The deal with Commodore/Hyperion was reported to be in 1984.  The
> Commodore Colt came out in 1984.  From what I've read, Commodore was trying
> to buy a PC before they started making their own.  It would not be a leap
> for them to use what they learned from the 100% DOS compatible Hyperion to
> make the Colt because if they were working on the Colt, they wouldn't have
> needed the Hyperion.


I missed that Commodore re-badged the Hyperion.  I was confusing
"Dynalogic" (the company) with Hyperion (their portable computer model).

A Commodore re-badged Hyperion is definitely something I've never seen.
Pretty interesting.

Sellam


[cctalk] Re: Commodore Hyperion was Re: First non-IBM PC-DOS Compatible PC

2023-06-06 Thread Santo Nucifora via cctalk
Sellam,

Bo Zimmerman at Zimmers.net has a picture of one here:
http://www.zimmers.net/commie/canonical.php?UPTOP=PC+Series=1=PC-3052

Here is one booting up on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnPXH1Fy5w

The quality is not great for either of them and there are no internal
pictures, unfortunately.  I don't know if it's the same one but it looks
like the front mold was changed so there must have been more than one.

The deal with Commodore/Hyperion was reported to be in 1984.  The
Commodore Colt came out in 1984.  From what I've read, Commodore was trying
to buy a PC before they started making their own.  It would not be a leap
for them to use what they learned from the 100% DOS compatible Hyperion to
make the Colt because if they were working on the Colt, they wouldn't have
needed the Hyperion.

All speculation on my part as there is not a lot of information on this out
there.
Santo

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:56 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:39 PM Santo Nucifora via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:04 PM db via cctalk 
> > wrote:
> >
> > That is very interesting.  I've seen Commodore Hyperion's in the same
> case
> > but with the molded "Commodore" brand instead of "Hyperion" but figured
> > they were just rebranded Hyperions.  Would you happen to know if those
> were
> > the 100% compatible versions?
> >
> > I know Commodore bought the rights but ended up making their own PCs that
> > turned into Commodore's PC line and the Hyperion design disappeared.  I'm
> > wondering if they may have used the 100% compatible Hyperion internals
> for
> > their models?
>
>
> Are the Commodore Colts the line acquired from Hyperion or their own
> design?
>
> I don't believe I've ever seen a Commodore-badged Hyperion.
>
> Sellam
>


[cctalk] Re: Commodore Hyperion was Re: First non-IBM PC-DOS Compatible PC

2023-06-06 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 12:39 PM Santo Nucifora via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:04 PM db via cctalk 
> wrote:
>
> That is very interesting.  I've seen Commodore Hyperion's in the same case
> but with the molded "Commodore" brand instead of "Hyperion" but figured
> they were just rebranded Hyperions.  Would you happen to know if those were
> the 100% compatible versions?
>
> I know Commodore bought the rights but ended up making their own PCs that
> turned into Commodore's PC line and the Hyperion design disappeared.  I'm
> wondering if they may have used the 100% compatible Hyperion internals for
> their models?


Are the Commodore Colts the line acquired from Hyperion or their own design?

I don't believe I've ever seen a Commodore-badged Hyperion.

Sellam