[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-27 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, skogkatt...@yahoo.com wrote:

Companies don't care about history.  It does not affect the next
quarter's sales. I had serial number 1 of a Radio Shack shortwave
receiver and offered it to them.

I got a reply back, 'I'm sorry, we no longer support that model.'

cheers,

Nigel


Chris: PLEASE LEARN HOW TO QUOTE !

Christian


[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-26 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk

Companies don't care about history.  It does not affect the next
quarter's sales. I had serial number 1 of a Radio Shack shortwave
receiver and offered it to them.


A CEO I know of a company who's products I use has commented that he is 
always thinking forward, doesn't dwell in the past. Otherwise there would 
be layoffs.


- Ethan

[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-26 Thread Chris via cctalk
Companies don't care about history.  It does not affect the next
quarter's sales. I had serial number 1 of a Radio Shack shortwave
receiver and offered it to them.

I got a reply back, 'I'm sorry, we no longer support that model.'

cheers,

Nigel

C: wow I didn't even know the Shirt Shack monitored much less replied to 
customer inquiries via shortwave. I suppose that's 1 way to get patrons to buy 
your rigs.


[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-26 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
I think companies treat their product as inventory items. Companies are not 
even meant to last forever, whereas the expectations of museums is that they 
should. Moreover, the excitement of acquiring a product with serial number 1 is 
coming from us, the consumers. You expected the Radio Shack person you 
contacted to be as excited but that person does not share the passion. Plus if 
he or she do, it will likely because they share the passion. I think you should 
donate the machine to CHM or some museum that would make a serious effort to 
store and showcase the item. If the item is more valuable to you then to them 
then, if I were you, I would showcase it on a bookshelf, take some photos, and 
share it to the world. The piece will eventually vanishes just like many serial 
number 1 products have sadly phased off, except for  Apple 1

Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
https://tarek.computer

> On Jan 26, 2023, at 4:00 AM, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Companies don't care about history.  It does not affect the next quarter's 
> sales. I had serial number 1 of a Radio Shack shortwave receiver and offered 
> it to them.
> 
> I got a reply back, 'I'm sorry, we no longer support that model.'
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
> 
> Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
> Skype:  TILBURY2591
> 
> 
>> On 2023-01-25 21:33, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>> Thank you for that link.
>> 
>> As usual, the Vogons get credit for something that was accomplished in spite 
>> of the Vogons.
>> 
>> 
>> At one time, Apple had a historical exhibit.  It ended with the Macintosh, 
>> with NO provision for any future expansion.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
>>> Though it is not a source code, there is a nice article by a retired 
>>> librarian that used to work at Apple. Anna Mancini helped save a lot of 
>>> material that Apple discarded in the past. Anna talks about the Apple 
>>> Archives at 
>>> https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Tarek Hoteit
>>> https://tarek.computer


[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-26 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
Companies don't care about history.  It does not affect the next 
quarter's sales. I had serial number 1 of a Radio Shack shortwave 
receiver and offered it to them.


I got a reply back, 'I'm sorry, we no longer support that model.'

cheers,

Nigel



Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
Skype:  TILBURY2591


On 2023-01-25 21:33, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

Thank you for that link.

As usual, the Vogons get credit for something that was accomplished in 
spite of the Vogons.



At one time, Apple had a historical exhibit.  It ended with the 
Macintosh, with NO provision for any future expansion.


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
Though it is not a source code, there is a nice article by a retired 
librarian that used to work at Apple. Anna Mancini helped save a lot 
of material that Apple discarded in the past. Anna talks about the 
Apple Archives at 
https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at


Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
https://tarek.computer

[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

Thank you for that link.

As usual, the Vogons get credit for something that was accomplished in 
spite of the Vogons.



At one time, Apple had a historical exhibit.  It ended with the Macintosh, 
with NO provision for any future expansion.


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


On Wed, 25 Jan 2023, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:

Though it is not a source code, there is a nice article by a retired librarian 
that used to work at Apple. Anna Mancini helped save a lot of material that 
Apple discarded in the past. Anna talks about the Apple Archives at 
https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at

Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
https://tarek.computer


[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:03 PM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Though it is not a source code, there is a nice article by a retired 
> librarian that used to work at Apple. Anna Mancini helped save a lot of 
> material that Apple discarded in the past. Anna talks about the Apple 
> Archives at 
> https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at
> 
> Regards,
> Tarek Hoteit
> https://tarek.computer

Wow.  I need to read the whole thing, but some things are blowing my mind 
already.

I remember an infamous Bill Gates quote "the source code is the documentation". 
 But it appears that Gates was several orders of magnitude saner than Steve 
Jobs.  "They should know all that already" -- with brain damage like that, it's 
amazing he was able to build a company at all.

paul



[cctalk] Re: Excellent CHM Article on Apple Lisa Software (Apple Archive)

2023-01-25 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
Though it is not a source code, there is a nice article by a retired librarian 
that used to work at Apple. Anna Mancini helped save a lot of material that 
Apple discarded in the past. Anna talks about the Apple Archives at 
https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at

Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
https://tarek.computer

> On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Lee Courtney via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought this was an excellent article on work at CHM on curating,
> documenting, and making Apple Lisa software available - thank you Al. Would
> be interesting to see other software collection objects curated in this way.
> 
> https://computerhistory.org/blog/apple-lisa-still-more-to-uncover/
> 
> Enjoy!
> -- 
> Lee Courtney