[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
I do know the VAX-11/780 very well (although I do only own a /750), but what is the PROMIS software good for? Does it run on ancient VMS versions (i.e. V4 or earlier)? Jonathan Katz via cctalk schrieb am Mo., 6. Mai 2024, 16:41: > Hey everyone, > > My better half recently turned this on and also a podcast with the > creator/director. They mentioned they visited "someone" with a working > VAX 11/780 to get b-roll footage for the movie. Which one of us was > it? :D > > In all seriousness, it would be fun to try and get a vintage copy of > the PROMIS software running on something (I assume it was VAX/VMS in > its original incarnation, but many other screenshots show > SNA/greenscreen implementations.) > > Cheers, all! > > -- > -Jon > +44 7792 149029 >
[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
My museum is in the credits, so it was probably me... Patrick Finnegan On Mon, May 6, 2024, 10:42 Jonathan Katz via cctalk wrote: > Hey everyone, > > My better half recently turned this on and also a podcast with the > creator/director. They mentioned they visited "someone" with a working > VAX 11/780 to get b-roll footage for the movie. Which one of us was > it? :D > > In all seriousness, it would be fun to try and get a vintage copy of > the PROMIS software running on something (I assume it was VAX/VMS in > its original incarnation, but many other screenshots show > SNA/greenscreen implementations.) > > Cheers, all! > > -- > -Jon > +44 7792 149029 >
[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
Awesome! I figured I'd know someone involved. Did you actually get a vintage version of PROMIS running? They talk about it being so "revolutionary" in the documentary, but it just seems like any other database? On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 6:25 PM Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > My museum is in the credits, so it was probably me... > > Patrick Finnegan
[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
It dates back to the early 1980s and seems to run on VMS. It was specialised software for law enforcement used to manage casework, but could also do some pattern matching. Almost like a "prehistoric Palantir" based upon what the documentary said. There was a large scandal involving the software, involving stolen source code and the government trying to bankrupt the software company (which is still in business.) On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 5:53 PM Hans-Ulrich Hölscher via cctalk wrote: > > I do know the VAX-11/780 very well (although I do only own a /750), but > what is the PROMIS software good for? Does it run on ancient VMS versions > (i.e. V4 or earlier)? > >
[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
There was some movie magic, so no running version of promis. I did the screen design myself for the TVI 950 based on pictures of screens running the software that Christian and Zach provided. They came last year and did a day of filming after a couple days of setting up the set at my place. Supposedly I was the only person they could find with a VAX 11/780 running that had somewhere they could film it (presumably also in their budget). They did pay me a bit for the location, but the whole experience was great. I'm happy it finally came out so I can talk about it. Patrick Finnegan On Mon, May 6, 2024, 13:30 Jonathan Katz via cctalk wrote: > Awesome! I figured I'd know someone involved. Did you actually get a > vintage version of PROMIS running? They talk about it being so > "revolutionary" in the documentary, but it just seems like any other > database? > > On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 6:25 PM Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > > > My museum is in the credits, so it was probably me... > > > > Patrick Finnegan >
[cctalk] Re: Netflix Series: American Conspiracy/Octopus Murders
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:36 AM Patrick Finnegan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > There was some movie magic, so no running version of promis. I did the > screen design myself for the TVI 950 based on pictures of screens running > the software that Christian and Zach provided. > > They came last year and did a day of filming after a couple days of setting > up the set at my place. Supposedly I was the only person they could find > with a VAX 11/780 running that had somewhere they could film it (presumably > also in their budget). > > They did pay me a bit for the location, but the whole experience was great. > I'm happy it finally came out so I can talk about it. > > Patrick Finnegan > The nice thing is that this should lead to further similar engagements for you in the future. Good work. Sellam
