Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Thx.

I haven’t seen many cheap VGA->HDMI adapters. The cheap ones went the other 
direction.

I have been using widescreen displays with my Suns (using Solaris/CDE and 
OPENSTEP) for some time. My last Sun-badged display was a widescreen.

Will look for Extron ones.

> On May 24, 2020, at 22:05, Rico Pajarola  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've had good success using various Extron adapters.
> 
> I'm currently using a RGB112xi to convert  => VGA.
> 
> So far the adapter works as advertised with anything I managed to connect it 
> to (various HP/DEC/Sun/SGI/RS6000, including mono and SoG) to a cheap Dell 
> monitor that definitely doesn't understand sync on green. The adapter fully 
> regenerates all signals including separate H/V sync.
> 
> From there I would assume any cheap VGA => HDMI adapter should work (but I 
> never had the urge, because HDMI monitors also tend to be wide format which 
> doesn't work very well for classic computing)
> 
> I also have other Extron converters, but the RGB112xi is best for 1990s 
> workstations. The only thing I wish it had was a way to choose the color when 
> the input signal is monochrome.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:53 AM Alan Perry via cctalk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I first started trying to use VGA LCD panels with my Suns (mostly 
>> lunchbox systems, all 4c and 4m desktops), I heard there could be a 
>> problem like that and stuck with a particular model Samsung that worked. 
>> Then I tried another one and it worked. And another. And another. I 
>> haven't encountered one (out of half a dozen) that didn't work.
>> 
>> alanp
>> 
>> On 5/24/20 9:29 AM, alan--- via cctalk wrote:
>> > 
>> > I've had the opposite experience.  I've been trying to find a 1U 
>> > pull-out keyboard/monitor/mouse combo for my E6500 rack.  Most of the 
>> > VGA LCD panels complain about signal out of range on both cg3 and cg6. 
>> > The E6500 really doesn't need a video console, but it'd be nice if one 
>> > was tucked in there.  Of course the weirdo Sun mounting rails in the 
>> > cabinet are yet another challenge.
>> > 
>> > -A
>> > 
>> > On 2020-05-24 11:16, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Every flat panel display with a SVGA connector that I have had has
>> >> worked with my 13W3-to-SVGA adapters. I have seen adapters that do the
>> >> SVGA to HDMI part. I am asking if someone else here has figured out
>> >> which one(s) work in this application.


Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
I've had good success using various Extron adapters.

I'm currently using a RGB112xi to convert  => VGA.

So far the adapter works as advertised with anything I managed to connect
it to (various HP/DEC/Sun/SGI/RS6000, including mono and SoG) to a cheap
Dell monitor that definitely doesn't understand sync on green. The adapter
fully regenerates all signals including separate H/V sync.

>From there I would assume any cheap VGA => HDMI adapter should work (but I
never had the urge, because HDMI monitors also tend to be wide format which
doesn't work very well for classic computing)

I also have other Extron converters, but the RGB112xi is best for 1990s
workstations. The only thing I wish it had was a way to choose the color
when the input signal is monochrome.



On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 9:53 AM Alan Perry via cctalk 
wrote:

>
> When I first started trying to use VGA LCD panels with my Suns (mostly
> lunchbox systems, all 4c and 4m desktops), I heard there could be a
> problem like that and stuck with a particular model Samsung that worked.
> Then I tried another one and it worked. And another. And another. I
> haven't encountered one (out of half a dozen) that didn't work.
>
> alanp
>
> On 5/24/20 9:29 AM, alan--- via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > I've had the opposite experience.  I've been trying to find a 1U
> > pull-out keyboard/monitor/mouse combo for my E6500 rack.  Most of the
> > VGA LCD panels complain about signal out of range on both cg3 and cg6.
> > The E6500 really doesn't need a video console, but it'd be nice if one
> > was tucked in there.  Of course the weirdo Sun mounting rails in the
> > cabinet are yet another challenge.
> >
> > -A
> >
> > On 2020-05-24 11:16, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >> Every flat panel display with a SVGA connector that I have had has
> >> worked with my 13W3-to-SVGA adapters. I have seen adapters that do the
> >> SVGA to HDMI part. I am asking if someone else here has figured out
> >> which one(s) work in this application.
>


Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread Craig Ruff via cctalk
Just bought an Extron RGB-HDMI 300 (A) that handles VGA and other RGB type 
signals and has HDMI output. I've connected it to my VAXstation 4000/60 (very 
successfully), and my IIgs (reasonable but this is at the low end of what the 
unit can manage). Output on either my Sony 46" TV or Apple 1600x1050 monitor. 
Found one (pull from service) at surpluscrestron.com for $53 shipped. It didn't 
come with the power supply (12 V @ 1 A) and needed this connector 
(https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/039502/WM7732-ND/1280583) 
to attach the power supply.


Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



When I first started trying to use VGA LCD panels with my Suns (mostly 
lunchbox systems, all 4c and 4m desktops), I heard there could be a 
problem like that and stuck with a particular model Samsung that worked. 
Then I tried another one and it worked. And another. And another. I 
haven't encountered one (out of half a dozen) that didn't work.


alanp

On 5/24/20 9:29 AM, alan--- via cctalk wrote:


I've had the opposite experience.  I've been trying to find a 1U 
pull-out keyboard/monitor/mouse combo for my E6500 rack.  Most of the 
VGA LCD panels complain about signal out of range on both cg3 and cg6. 
The E6500 really doesn't need a video console, but it'd be nice if one 
was tucked in there.  Of course the weirdo Sun mounting rails in the 
cabinet are yet another challenge.


-A

On 2020-05-24 11:16, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:


Every flat panel display with a SVGA connector that I have had has
worked with my 13W3-to-SVGA adapters. I have seen adapters that do the
SVGA to HDMI part. I am asking if someone else here has figured out
which one(s) work in this application.


Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread alan--- via cctalk



I've had the opposite experience.  I've been trying to find a 1U 
pull-out keyboard/monitor/mouse combo for my E6500 rack.  Most of the 
VGA LCD panels complain about signal out of range on both cg3 and cg6.  
The E6500 really doesn't need a video console, but it'd be nice if one 
was tucked in there.  Of course the weirdo Sun mounting rails in the 
cabinet are yet another challenge.


-A

On 2020-05-24 11:16, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:


Every flat panel display with a SVGA connector that I have had has
worked with my 13W3-to-SVGA adapters. I have seen adapters that do the
SVGA to HDMI part. I am asking if someone else here has figured out
which one(s) work in this application.


Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk



> On May 24, 2020, at 06:31, emanuel stiebler via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2020-05-23 21:35, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
>> Anyone here know of a SVGA-to-HDMI (or DisplayPort) adapter that a 
>> 13W3-to-SVGA adapter 
>> so I can connect my Sun frame buffers to a HDMI display? I am hoping someone 
>> here has already figured this one out.
> 
> SVGA should be possible, but Sun Frame Buffer? Which ones are you
> talking about?
> 
> Resolution? Framerate?

Which frame buffers? The typical cg3 cg6 with 13W3. Resolution? Framerate? 
Don’t care as long as it displays.

Every flat panel display with a SVGA connector that I have had has worked with 
my 13W3-to-SVGA adapters. I have seen adapters that do the SVGA to HDMI part. I 
am asking if someone else here has figured out which one(s) work in this 
application.



Re: 13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-24 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-05-23 21:35, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote:
> Anyone here know of a SVGA-to-HDMI (or DisplayPort) adapter that a 
> 13W3-to-SVGA adapter 
> so I can connect my Sun frame buffers to a HDMI display? I am hoping someone 
> here has already figured this one out.

SVGA should be possible, but Sun Frame Buffer? Which ones are you
talking about?

Resolution? Framerate?


13W3 to HDMI/DisplayPort

2020-05-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Anyone here know of a SVGA-to-HDMI (or DisplayPort) adapter that a 13W3-to-SVGA 
adapter so I can connect my Sun frame buffers to a HDMI display? I am hoping 
someone here has already figured this one out.

alan