Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread John Herron via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 5:00 AM Peter Corlett via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> >> https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/
> > I like it!
>
> The ratios are wrong: it's about twice as thick as it ought to be. It's
> apparently been designed by somebody who has seen a picture of a floppy but
> never used one.
>

One might even say.. it's double density. (I'll see myself out)

>


Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 12:00, Peter Corlett via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Get a LACK table from IKEA (€6.99)

Speaking of LACK, I guess most people might know this, but it's the
same size as a standard 19" rack and can be used to hold rackmount
kit.

https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack

This may be best employed in the home if you are deaf or
hard-of-hearing, though, from my own experience of rackmount servers
on the coffee table...

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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 16:59, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> (BTW, trying to contact IKEA to get it sorted was very much like trying to
> contact Google except that Google doesn't have sacrificial call centre workers
> in a different country to intercept the complaints and lose them, Google just
> doesn't take calls from anyone.)

Actually, I feel a strange and atypical urge to defend IKEA here.

I bought a 2nd hand IKEA bed off some chap on Fesse Bouc a few years
ago. He said his girlfriend didn't like it and it gave her back ache.

It was partly disassembled. When I came to rebuilt it, using a PDF of
the instructions from the WWW, I discovered an important screw was
missing.

I went to my local IKEA, showed them the pic and the name of the bed,
and they just gave me the right screw, free of charge for a 2nd hand
item.

When I came to assemble the bed, I discovered that the fool had
assembled it wrongly in the first place and used the "missing" bolt in
the wrong hole, making the whole frame slightly twisted and that's
probably why his G/F didn't like it.

But kudos to IKEA who publish the instructions for free online,
facilitating the 2nd hand market, and to their after-care which
includes no-questions-asked parts even for later owners.

They also swapped a backpack of mine when a critical zip failed, even
though I bought it in a different country and had no receipt.

I think maybe the thing is to go there, not try to phone them.

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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 12:00:33 +0100, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 04:47:36PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
>> On 1/18/22 2:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>>> https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/
>> I like it!
>
> The ratios are wrong: it's about twice as thick as it ought to be. It's
> apparently been designed by somebody who has seen a picture of a floppy but
> never used one.
>

Maybe the idea is that when the top gets marked, you can sand it down and
paint it again multiple times so you don't need to use those matching
coasters that are so hard to get nowadays?

>
>> But I hate the price.
>
> Get a LACK table from IKEA (€6.99) and adorn it with 3D prints, or even old
> floppies? I'd advise against trying to machine patterns into it though as
> that low-end stuff is basically made of laminated cheese.
>

Peter,

I'm shocked to see you recommend IKEA!

Have you not suffered from (physical) IKEA catalogue spam the same way we have
over here?

(BTW, trying to contact IKEA to get it sorted was very much like trying to
contact Google except that Google doesn't have sacrificial call centre workers
in a different country to intercept the complaints and lose them, Google just
doesn't take calls from anyone.)

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 04:47:36PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/18/22 2:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>> https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/
> I like it!

The ratios are wrong: it's about twice as thick as it ought to be. It's
apparently been designed by somebody who has seen a picture of a floppy but
never used one.

> But I hate the price.

Get a LACK table from IKEA (€6.99) and adorn it with 3D prints, or even old
floppies? I'd advise against trying to machine patterns into it though as
that low-end stuff is basically made of laminated cheese.



Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread geneb via cctalk

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:


On 1/18/22 2:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/


I like it!

But I hate the price.


The problem is right there in the name of the site. :D

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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 1/18/22 2:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/


I like it!

But I hate the price.



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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>>> I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of 
>>> these...
>>> https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/
>>
>> I just love that table
> 
> Although the ad says "1.44 megabytes", it is a 720K.
> The write enable notch is not openable to write protect it,
> and the shutter may have lost its spring..

The one *with* the spring working has a handy catch basin for your distal
finger fragments.
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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

What's the going price for a Cray round sofa/bench?


Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of 
these...

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/


On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:

I just love that table


Although the ad says "1.44 megabytes", it is a 720K.
The write enable notch is not openable to write protect it,
and the shutter may have lost its spring..


Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of these...

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/


I have a RAMAC platter.
(24" diameter; arguably FIRST hard disk, from 1958?; when they wouldn't 
let Nikita Krushchev into Disneyland, they took him to the IBM factory, 
instead.)


It has enough damage to no longer be usable in a drive.
I have a round patio table base.
I still need a 2 foot round piece of [UV absorbing?] [tempered?] glass.


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Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk

I just love that table

On 1/18/2022 3:21 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 13:38:32 -0700, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote:

I wish I'd kept some.  I had some AOL CDs from slightly later that made
decent coasters for decades.  Although I guess with the shutter, the floppy
wouldn't really have made a very good coaster.


I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of these...

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.


Adam





Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 13:38:32 -0700, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote:
>
> I wish I'd kept some.  I had some AOL CDs from slightly later that made
> decent coasters for decades.  Although I guess with the shutter, the floppy
> wouldn't really have made a very good coaster.
>

I can only conclude you needed something to save the surface on one of these...

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/floppy-disk-table/

Regards,
Peter Coghlan.

>
> Adam
>


Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 1/18/22 1:38 PM, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote:
I wish I'd kept some.  I had some AOL CDs from slightly later that 
made decent coasters for decades.  Although I guess with the shutter, 
the floppy wouldn't really have made a very good coaster.


Chuckle.

When I think of "coasters" I think of CD-ROMs, particularly bad burns on 
CD-Rs.


That being said, I do have some rubber coasters in the shape of 3½" 
floppy disks.




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AOL diskettes

2022-01-18 Thread Adam Thornton via cctalk


> From: Grant Taylor 
> 
> I wince at the idea of running with QIC tape.  But my experience is with 
> QIC-80 tapes of the '90s which were so unreliable as to be in the same 
> category as AOL floppy disks during the late '90s around the transition 
> to CD-ROMs.  As in I would trust an AOL floppy disk to better hold my 
> data for a week than I would a QIC-80 tape to hold data for a month, 
> much less a year.  ...and I didn't even trust an AOL floppy to go from 
> computer to computer for 5 minutes.  --  Talk about a race to the bottom 
> for quality.

I wish I'd kept some.  I had some AOL CDs from slightly later that made decent 
coasters for decades.  Although I guess with the shutter, the floppy wouldn't 
really have made a very good coaster.

Adam