Re: Buying external SMD cables for Sun gear

2020-02-25 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:20 PM Alan Perry via cctalk
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> As previously discussed here, I have a Sun 3/260 that connects to a Sun 
> external storage subsystem containing two 8” SMD drives. The external cabling 
> is a 0.7m D-sub 25-pin (male both ends) data cable for each drive and a 
> paired set of 0.7m D-sub 25- and 37-pin (male both ends) command cables. 
> These cables are straight through connections between internal ribbon cables 
> from the drives (CDC 9720-368 and Fujitsu M2372) to the controller board 
> (Xylogics 451 on a VME adapter).
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> For reasons described below, I have been unable to buy the original Sun 
> cables. Should off-the-shelf D-sub 25- and 37-pin cables work? I guess 
> electrical shielding/noise could be a concern?

A lot of SMD cabling was that twist-n-flat ribbon cable, the twisted
pair stuff with flat sections to crimp IDC connectors onto. My guess
is that provided to arrange it so that the external cable twisted
pairs match up with the internal cable ones (or if the internal cables
are just plain ribbon cable, so that each twisted pair carries a
signal and its inverse (if you see what I mean) then it will work fine
with such cables.

I wouldn't try to use commercial DB25 and DC37 'round' cables as
there's no knowing what is going on inside the cable. But if you can
get some multiple twisted pair cable you could solder it to the right
connectors (again making sure a signal and its inverse end up on a
twisted pair). More work than the twist-n-flat cable though.

-tony


Buying external SMD cables for Sun gear

2020-02-25 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk

As previously discussed here, I have a Sun 3/260 that connects to a Sun 
external storage subsystem containing two 8” SMD drives. The external cabling 
is a 0.7m D-sub 25-pin (male both ends) data cable for each drive and a paired 
set of 0.7m D-sub 25- and 37-pin (male both ends) command cables. These cables 
are straight through connections between internal ribbon cables from the drives 
(CDC 9720-368 and Fujitsu M2372) to the controller board (Xylogics 451 on a VME 
adapter).

For reasons described below, I have been unable to buy the original Sun cables. 
Should off-the-shelf D-sub 25- and 37-pin cables work? I guess electrical 
shielding/noise could be a concern?

As to why I am looking for alternatives, MemoryX has been my source for this 
kind of stuff, but they have lost my trust. I ordered a full set of cables from 
them on 2 Jan and they have gone silent responding to my queries on that order. 
Then this month they were selling a couple sets of the control cables on eBay. 
I bought the second set. They marked it shipped, left positive comments about 
the transaction on eBay, but the cable set didn’t arrive as scheduled last 
Friday and yesterday they cancelled the eBay auction and refunded what I paid, 
all without any explanation. They still list the cables on their website, each 
$100 more than what they were when I ordered them on 2 Jan.

alan