Re: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-22 Thread Ulrich Tagge via cctalk

Hi all,
thanks for your comments.
They has helped a lot, to understand the DG numbering schema, and will 
help identifying the modules.


Many Greetings
Ulrich


Re: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Bruce Ray via cctalk

Notes on Data General product numbers:

Data General gave definitive part numbers for each product it created. 
The part numbers are usually located on small labels on each board, and 
have the format of


005-x-yy

where 005 indicates that this is a product number,
xx is the specific product, and
yy is the product revision number.

In later systems (1980s) the labels sometimes had two 005 numbers on the 
label: a "T" (Type) number and an "A" (Assembly) number.  This was done 
because a specific PCB, or "Assembly", could actually be used for 
different products depending upon what chips or PROMs were stuffed on 
the PCB.  In these cases the T 005 number would indicate what specific 
options were supported by that specific PCB.


On PCBs the 005-xx-yy part number usually exists on a label attached 
to the 15"x15" board stiffener (the side opposite the finger edge 
connectors).   This PCB label might look something like this (note that 
this is just an example):


T 005-001322-03   A 005-001367-04

In these situations the important number is the "T" (type) number rather 
than the "A" (assembly) number since it uniquely identifies the 
particular product and its capability/function.



The "107-xx-yy" type number is a circuit board "artwork" number, not 
a Data General product number. Similar to an "assembly", a single 
107-xx-yy circuit board artwork may actually be used by multiple 
005-xx-yy parts.


Therefore, the part number is the primary (PCB) reference to be used 
because a single 107-xx-yy circuit board artwork may actually be 
used by multiple 005-xx-yy parts.



Schematics are identified with an 001-xx-yy part number, and may not 
even have its corresponding "artwork" number listed on the schematic(!).



Unfortunately, I do not know of an official cross-reference between 
product numbers and artwork numbers.



-

Bruce Ray
Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc.
Boulder, Colorado USA
b...@wildharecomputers.com

...preserving the Data General legacy: www.NovasAreForever.org

On 3/21/2018 3:37 AM, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote:

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?


Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
 >500-453-00 K
 >500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich


Re: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 3/21/2018 4:37 AM, Ulrich Tagge via cctech wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd
> party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?
> 
> Would be good to know what the following is:
> 
> 107-000621 02
> 107-000621 03/11
> 107-001632-00
> 107-0016320/02
> 107-000718-00
> 107-000181-04
> 107-000187-16
> 107-000187-15-30
> AB020116-00
> 107-000621-03
> 107-001768-02
> 107-001768-03
> 107-0017680-1E
> 107-00053905
> Zetaco SCZ-2
>>500-453-00 K
>>500-542-00 K
> 
> 
> Many Greetings
> Ulrich
> 

I have some DG spare parts catalogs, but the numbers in them are all the
005- part numbers, not the 107- board numbers.  To translate them, one
would have to look through sets of drawings.  So, if your boards have
the 005- number, I might be able to help you out.

For the most part, the numbers you have listed are newer than the boards
I have documented because I actually have them (I go up to 107-001410).

I have a 107-000187 and I also have it documented as a disk controller.

Your list has some duplication.  For example, all the numbers that start
out 107-001768 are for the same kind of board - just different
revisions.  Same for 107-000187, 107-001632 and 107-000621.

JRJ


RE: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
107-000187-16  = "DISK CARTRIDGE CONTROL DGC NOVA"

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Subject: DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?

Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
 >500-453-00 K
 >500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich



DEC Field Guide > equivalent available for Data General?

2018-03-21 Thread Ulrich Tagge via cctalk

Hi all,

is there somewhere a list of DG modules which includes also 3rd 
party/OEM, ... like it is available for DEC?


Would be good to know what the following is:

107-000621 02
107-000621 03/11
107-001632-00
107-0016320/02
107-000718-00
107-000181-04
107-000187-16
107-000187-15-30
AB020116-00
107-000621-03
107-001768-02
107-001768-03
107-0017680-1E
107-00053905
Zetaco SCZ-2
>500-453-00 K
>500-542-00 K


Many Greetings
Ulrich