Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Ulrich Tagge via cctalk]

Maybe this helps: http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/vs-scsi.html & 
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/vms/ka420/README.txt



On 08/03/2018 01:53 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
/On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk />/
> wrote: />>/If it's of interest, I'd probably 
add a number of VAXstation dumps for />>/several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT). />/One interesting 
thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20 />/and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I 
know) as the />/InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In />/some situations an 
InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100. />/They can be converted by replacing the firmware. /
Has anybody ever tried dis-assembling the 3100 ROM to
modify it to boot from bigger disks?

bill

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[emanuel stiebler via cctalk]

On 2018-08-03 18:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/03/2018 01:53 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
>>  wrote:
>>> If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
>>> several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).
>> One interesting thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20
>> and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I know) as the
>> InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In
>> some situations an InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100.
>> They can be converted by replacing the firmware.
> 
> Has anybody ever tried dis-assembling the 3100 ROM to
> modify it to boot from bigger disks?

20 year ago, somebody made a patched version which didn't have the 1gb
limit ...

look in the usenet archives, vms group

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 03/08/18 23:47, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:


On 08/03/2018 01:53 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
 wrote:

If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).

One interesting thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20
and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I know) as the
InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In
some situations an InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100.
They can be converted by replacing the firmware.

Has anybody ever tried dis-assembling the 3100 ROM to
modify it to boot from bigger disks?

bill

The MicroVAX 3100 M10e/20e have a fix (or at least a late enough console 
ROM has the fix).


No idea how easy it would be to back-port that to the original 3100 
M10/20 (or the VAXstation 3100s).



Antonio


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Antonio Carlini
arcarl...@iee.org

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Bill Gunshannon via cctalk]

On 08/03/2018 01:53 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
>> several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).
> One interesting thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20
> and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I know) as the
> InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In
> some situations an InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100.
> They can be converted by replacing the firmware.

Has anybody ever tried dis-assembling the 3100 ROM to
modify it to boot from bigger disks?

bill

Re: Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[shadoooo via cctalk]

Hello,
maybe you have also a dump for a 4000-100A ?
I have a motherboard which seems to have problems to Bcache or Pcache, and
another one which I took as replacement, which has a very old version.
I wonder if there's a way to dump the firmware in some way from the
non-working one, then update the other...
Of course I would avoid to desolder and resolder the flash Roms...

Andrea

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Antonio Carlini via cctalk]

On 03/08/18 18:53, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
 wrote:

If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).

One interesting thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20
and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I know) as the
InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In
some situations an InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100.
They can be converted by replacing the firmware.


The specs for the 100 and 150 would confirm your suspicions. There's also

a DTJ article somewhere that explains the evolution of the InfoServer line.

(After the 150 I think they built custom hardware).


Antonio


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Antonio Carlini
arcarl...@iee.org

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Glen Slick via cctalk]

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
> several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).

One interesting thing about MicroVAX 3100 firmware is that the M10/20
and the M10e/20e motherboards are the same (as far as I know) as the
InfoServer 100 and 150 motherboards, just with different firmware. In
some situations an InfoServer may be more useful than a MicroVAX 3100.
They can be converted by replacing the firmware.

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk]

On Wed, 2018-08-01 17:44:46 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk 
 wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:
> > > Are the firmware eproms for the DECstation archived anywhere?
> > Are you looking for anything specific, or just like to save them?
> 
>  I have several dumps I made for reverse-engineering purposes, and a 
> couple of TURBOchannel option ROM dumps too.  Let me see...

If it's of interest, I'd probably add a number of VAXstation dumps for
several machines (3100, 4000, VS II GPX, VXT).

MfG, JBG

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Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote:

> > Are the firmware eproms for the DECstation archived anywhere?
> 
> Are you looking for anything specific, or just like to save them?
> 
> I have most of the decstations ('133, '150, '200, '240 and '260),
> but all in containers, moving :(

 I have several dumps I made for reverse-engineering purposes, and a 
couple of TURBOchannel option ROM dumps too.  Let me see...

dglta-fa-rom.img.bz2
kn02-ba.V5.7e.img.bz2
kn02-ba.V5.7j.img.bz2
kn03-aa.V5.1b.img.bz2
kn03-aa.V5.2b.img.bz2
kn04-aa.V2.1k.img.bz2
kn05-aa.V2.1k.img.bz2
pmaf-aa-rom.img.bz2
pmaf-fd-rom.img.bz2
pmag-ca-rom.img.bz2
pmagb-ba-rom.img.bz2
pmagd-ca-rom.img.bz2
pmazc-aa-rom.img.bz2
yes-cbg-rom.img.bz2

That's all I have at hand.  For anything else I'd have to reach for actual 
hardware, which I am currently away from (and my remote lab is currently 
offline, due to the ISP who decided to cut me off without asking first).  
I do have many more pieces of hardware, never dumped though -- the last 
dump I made back in 2005.

 Let me know if that helps.

  Maciej

Re: DECstation firmware archive?

[emanuel stiebler via cctalk]

On 2018-07-13 20:26, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Are the firmware eproms for the DECstation archived anywhere?

Are you looking for anything specific, or just like to save them?

I have most of the decstations ('133, '150, '200, '240 and '260),
but all in containers, moving :(

Cheers

DECstation firmware archive?

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

Are the firmware eproms for the DECstation archived anywhere?