HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-26 Thread Eric Smith
I've borrowed an HP 9000/380 from a friend, along with a 9122D floppy
drive, but no software. It has an A1416A Color VRX DIO-II "Kathmandu"
video interface, but I'm hoping that I can just use the serial port as
a console. Does the DE9 serial console use the IBM pinout? Do I have
to pull the A1416A to get it to use the serial port as the console?

Is there any software that can be booted on it from the floppy, such
as perhaps non-HP-UX BASIC?


RE: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-26 Thread Rik Bos


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> Onderwerp: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)
> 
> I've borrowed an HP 9000/380 from a friend, along with a 9122D floppy drive,
> but no software. It has an A1416A Color VRX DIO-II "Kathmandu"
> video interface, but I'm hoping that I can just use the serial port as a 
> console.
> Does the DE9 serial console use the IBM pinout? Do I have to pull the A1416A 
> to
> get it to use the serial port as the console?
> 
> Is there any software that can be booted on it from the floppy, such as 
> perhaps
> non-HP-UX BASIC?

The manual says you can't use a terminal on the internal serial port.
You can boot Basic 5.1 or 6.2 from disc, on the hp museum site you can download 
the images.
This is the default boot disk they made should work for every 200/300 series. 
http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=27
I'm not sure if you can run Pascal from a floppy disk.

-Rik





Re: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-26 Thread Paul Berger

On 2016-01-26 6:25 PM, Rik Bos wrote:



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Onderwerp: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

I've borrowed an HP 9000/380 from a friend, along with a 9122D floppy drive,
but no software. It has an A1416A Color VRX DIO-II "Kathmandu"
video interface, but I'm hoping that I can just use the serial port as a 
console.
Does the DE9 serial console use the IBM pinout? Do I have to pull the A1416A to
get it to use the serial port as the console?

Is there any software that can be booted on it from the floppy, such as perhaps
non-HP-UX BASIC?

The manual says you can't use a terminal on the internal serial port.
You can boot Basic 5.1 or 6.2 from disc, on the hp museum site you can download 
the images.
This is the default boot disk they made should work for every 200/300 series. 
http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?sw=27
I'm not sure if you can run Pascal from a floppy disk.

-Rik



You can run Pascal from a diskette, but it runs into a lot of swapping 
diskettes unless you have a lot of drives.


Paul.


Re: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-26 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Rik Bos  wrote:
> The manual says you can't use a terminal on the internal serial port.

So only HP-UX can run on a headless machine (no keyboard and monitor)?

I guess I'll have to find a VGA-to-3-BNC cable. And I'm not sure
whether any of my LCD monitors or projector can handle sync-on-green,
but I guess I'll find out. My old Nokia 445Xi 20-inch CRT could, but I
no longer have it.

Worst case, I can build a sync separator board.

> You can boot Basic 5.1 or 6.2 from disc, on the hp museum site you can 
> download the images.

Thanks! I found Basic 5.1 and Pascal 3.1 there and downloaded them.
It would be nice to get newer versions, but as long as those work on
the /380 it will be sufficient. Next I need to get an older PC running
to use Teledisk. All of my modern PCs don't have a built in floppy
drive, and I normally use a USB 3.5" floppy drive, but USB floppies
don't support non-PC formats.


RE: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-26 Thread Rik Bos
Eric,

Basic 6.2 is also on the site and can be run from flop.

-Rik 

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Onderwerp: Re: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Rik Bos  wrote:
> The manual says you can't use a terminal on the internal serial port.

So only HP-UX can run on a headless machine (no keyboard and monitor)?

I guess I'll have to find a VGA-to-3-BNC cable. And I'm not sure
whether any of my LCD monitors or projector can handle sync-on-green,
but I guess I'll find out. My old Nokia 445Xi 20-inch CRT could, but I
no longer have it.

Worst case, I can build a sync separator board.

> You can boot Basic 5.1 or 6.2 from disc, on the hp museum site you can 
> download the images.

Thanks! I found Basic 5.1 and Pascal 3.1 there and downloaded them.
It would be nice to get newer versions, but as long as those work on
the /380 it will be sufficient. Next I need to get an older PC running
to use Teledisk. All of my modern PCs don't have a built in floppy
drive, and I normally use a USB 3.5" floppy drive, but USB floppies
don't support non-PC formats.


Re: HP 9000/380 console? software? (was Re: HP 9000/382 Questions)

2016-01-27 Thread Eric Smith
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Rik Bos  wrote:
> Basic 6.2 is also on the site and can be run from flop.

I was only able to find a download for BASIC 6.2 for the "Measurement
Coprocessor" for the AT bus, which required its own special version,
not compatible with normal Series 200/300.