Re: Keyboard storage, part 2
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 05:34, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > > At 08:31 PM 1/4/2021, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: >> Next, I ordered the Uline keyboard boxes. I had to get 25 of them and they >> are not free > > Well, actually... neither are the "free" USPS boxes. *Someone* paid for them, > and they're supposed to be used for shipping. Nice editing. What did I say the ones that I got will be used for? And I was recommending against them being used for keyboard storage.
Re: Keyboard storage, part 2
At 08:31 PM 1/4/2021, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: >Next, I ordered the Uline keyboard boxes. I had to get 25 of them and they are >not free Well, actually... neither are the "free" USPS boxes. *Someone* paid for them, and they're supposed to be used for shipping. - John
Re: Keyboard storage, part 2
Update to my update. Sun Type 6 requires box modification. Sun Type 3 fits without modification. On 1/4/21 6:31 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: An update on keyboard storage, which I asked about here last month. I ordered some USPS Large Flat Rate Priority Mail "board game" boxes. This is a size not usually available at the post office and come 25 in a pack. They are a good size for mailing (and I am glad that I ordered them so I can use them for that), but I don't think they work for keyboard storage. They are so much larger than the keyboards that I am storing that lots of packing material is needed so they don't move around. Also, they are designed to be sealed and shipped, so there isn't a convenient way to open them once they have been closed. Next, I ordered the Uline keyboard boxes. I had to get 25 of them and they are not free ($2.70 per box plus tax and shipping). They can be open and closed. They are a much closer to the size of a keyboard (surprise, surprise!) so not much packing material needed, but they are slightly smaller than a Sun Type 5c (as well as Axil) keyboard and needed to modified for those two. No modification needed to store a Sun Type 4 or CompuAdd Sun-compatible keyboard in one. I haven't tried a Sun Type 6 yet. To anyone in the Seattle area that need keyboard boxes, I will probably have 10-15 of them once I get all of my keyboards packed. If you would like any, let me know. alan
Keyboard storage, part 2
An update on keyboard storage, which I asked about here last month. I ordered some USPS Large Flat Rate Priority Mail "board game" boxes. This is a size not usually available at the post office and come 25 in a pack. They are a good size for mailing (and I am glad that I ordered them so I can use them for that), but I don't think they work for keyboard storage. They are so much larger than the keyboards that I am storing that lots of packing material is needed so they don't move around. Also, they are designed to be sealed and shipped, so there isn't a convenient way to open them once they have been closed. Next, I ordered the Uline keyboard boxes. I had to get 25 of them and they are not free ($2.70 per box plus tax and shipping). They can be open and closed. They are a much closer to the size of a keyboard (surprise, surprise!) so not much packing material needed, but they are slightly smaller than a Sun Type 5c (as well as Axil) keyboard and needed to modified for those two. No modification needed to store a Sun Type 4 or CompuAdd Sun-compatible keyboard in one. I haven't tried a Sun Type 6 yet. To anyone in the Seattle area that need keyboard boxes, I will probably have 10-15 of them once I get all of my keyboards packed. If you would like any, let me know. alan
Re: Keyboard storage
On 12/22/20 12:24 AM, Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: I’m storing keyboards openly in a shelf, vertical, standing on the small edge. I alternate them front-back so the slope of the keys array is compensating itself. Aside from some dust, the packing density is really good. And on 12/22/20 6:11 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately, since I live on a gravel road, dust is a huge problem here, so I need an enclosed solution. "Dishpack" boxes from movers or moving supply stores are one enclosed option, if you store the keyboards on-end as Patrik described. Or try using plastic storage bins with lids from the local Target/Walmart-equivalent. Each costs anywhere from $5-12 depending on size, sturdiness, and the occasional sale. Within the tub/bin the keyboards are arranged on the long edge, rather than flat. If the bin is tall enough, some cardboard allows for a second layer. --S.
Re: Keyboard storage (Alan Perry)
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 2:47 AM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Dec 22, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Raymond Robinson via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > I go to my local shopping center. > > The fish shop there, has the fish delivered in white foam boxes. > > Some are long with lids. > > I go dumpster diving and collect them. > > They are suitable for keyboards, > > depends on the length of the keyboard, > > and the length of the fish. > > > > Regards > > Ray > > Nice, but watch out for static electricity. > I'd also be wary of being phished when using materials of unknown provenance. > > paul > >
Re: Keyboard storage (Alan Perry)
> On Dec 22, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Raymond Robinson via cctech > wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > I go to my local shopping center. > The fish shop there, has the fish delivered in white foam boxes. > Some are long with lids. > I go dumpster diving and collect them. > They are suitable for keyboards, > depends on the length of the keyboard, > and the length of the fish. > > Regards > Ray Nice, but watch out for static electricity. paul
Keyboard storage (Alan Perry)
Hi Alan, I go to my local shopping center. The fish shop there, has the fish delivered in white foam boxes. Some are long with lids. I go dumpster diving and collect them. They are suitable for keyboards, depends on the length of the keyboard, and the length of the fish. Regards Ray > On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: >> I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more >> efficiently >> and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. >> They >> are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. >> Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? >> >> alan
RE: Keyboard storage
Hopefully someone will have some The blasted one is on the left side of the keyboard. Having a spare for the right side probably not a bad idea too... We were missing keyboards and got this like new one gifted to us. It was heartbreaking to see it damaged in shipping. We have a couple early 5150 umits with expansion chassis. Although only one of the monster interconnect cables between the pc and expansion chassis. Looking for posters lapel pins and other display art to fill in open areas... Any other ideas wekcome! Ed# On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Ed, that was excellent! We appreciate the extra effort. Alas, you are 15 years too late for my extra 5150 keyboard parts. They didn't make it through the third move (Ben Franklin commented how that was as disruptive as a fire) -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Let's try this... > > Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate Game size box. > > Alas it was dropped on the corner and torn somewhat. > > I had to remount keyboard pc inside the case that had moved and hardest part > was getting ground wire back > > Worse part was one of the corner edge flip up things that keeps key at an > angle bad snapped off. Museum needs parts to fix this as it is nice to > display keyboard at an angle > > Alas that particular Clicky keyboard is extremely heavy ... this is the one > for first ever ibm pc. Corner drop shock is a killer. > > Beware pack these early keyboards really well... > > OK does anyone have parts for the little mechanism on the end that keeps > keyboard tilted at an angle? > > > .Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC museum project > On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 Fred Cisin via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: >> Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box. Alas >> was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc >> inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad >> snapped off... that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for >> first ever ibm pc. Be ware pack really well.. >> Help anyone got parts for the tilter >> ...thing for these keyboards >> ...ed sharpe > > May we suggest that you switch temporarily to a working keyboard (or > "keyb" if you prefer) until you can repair the shipping damage. > What is "lo and neef nd"? > "til tje kry bad"? > It must be hard on you to have to proofread and fix all of the errors that > it creates.
Re: Keyboard storage
On 12/22/20 9:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Let's try this... > > Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate Game size box. > > Alas it was dropped on the corner and torn somewhat. > > I had to remount keyboard pc inside the case that had moved and hardest part > was getting ground wire back > > Worse part was one of the corner edge flip up things that keeps key at an > angle bad snapped off. Museum needs parts to fix this as it is nice to > display keyboard at an angle > > Alas that particular Clicky keyboard is extremely heavy ... this is the one > for first ever ibm pc. Corner drop shock is a killer. > > Beware pack these early keyboards really well... > > OK does anyone have parts for the little mechanism on the end that keeps > keyboard tilted at an angle? Try the folks at https://www.clickykeyboards.com/--they tend to hoard a lot of old parts and are quite reasonable about selling them. --Chuck
RE: Keyboard storage
Ed, that was excellent! We appreciate the extra effort. Alas, you are 15 years too late for my extra 5150 keyboard parts. They didn't make it through the third move (Ben Franklin commented how that was as disruptive as a fire) -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Let's try this... Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate Game size box. Alas it was dropped on the corner and torn somewhat. I had to remount keyboard pc inside the case that had moved and hardest part was getting ground wire back Worse part was one of the corner edge flip up things that keeps key at an angle bad snapped off. Museum needs parts to fix this as it is nice to display keyboard at an angle Alas that particular Clicky keyboard is extremely heavy ... this is the one for first ever ibm pc. Corner drop shock is a killer. Beware pack these early keyboards really well... OK does anyone have parts for the little mechanism on the end that keeps keyboard tilted at an angle? .Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC museum project On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box. Alas was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad snapped off... that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for first ever ibm pc. Be ware pack really well.. Help anyone got parts for the tilter ...thing for these keyboards ...ed sharpe May we suggest that you switch temporarily to a working keyboard (or "keyb" if you prefer) until you can repair the shipping damage. What is "lo and neef nd"? "til tje kry bad"? It must be hard on you to have to proofread and fix all of the errors that it creates.
RE: Keyboard storage
Let's try this... Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate Game size box. Alas it was dropped on the corner and torn somewhat. I had to remount keyboard pc inside the case that had moved and hardest part was getting ground wire back Worse part was one of the corner edge flip up things that keeps key at an angle bad snapped off. Museum needs parts to fix this as it is nice to display keyboard at an angle Alas that particular Clicky keyboard is extremely heavy ... this is the one for first ever ibm pc. Corner drop shock is a killer. Beware pack these early keyboards really well... OK does anyone have parts for the little mechanism on the end that keeps keyboard tilted at an angle? .Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC museum project On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box. Alas > was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc > inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad > snapped off... that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for > first ever ibm pc. Be ware pack really well.. > Help anyone got parts for the tilter > ...thing for these keyboards > ...ed sharpe May we suggest that you switch temporarily to a working keyboard (or "keyb" if you prefer) until you can repair the shipping damage. What is "lo and neef nd"? "til tje kry bad"? It must be hard on you to have to proofread and fix all of the errors that it creates.
RE: Keyboard storage
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box.?? Alas was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad snapped off...?? that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for first ever ibm pc.?? Be ware?? pack really well.. Help anyone got parts for the tilter ...thing?? for these keyboards ...ed sharpe May we suggest that you switch temporarily to a working keyboard (or "keyb" if you prefer) until you can repair the shipping damage. What is "lo and neef nd"? "til tje kry bad"? It must be hard on you to have to proofread and fix all of the errors that it creates.
Re: Keyboard storage
ULINE sells a box (you can buy a qty of 1-5-20-etc that fits the dimensions of most any keyboard and would be a good long-term storage solution. I have bought these and they stack well. Bill On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 9:11 AM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2020, at 00:51, Patrik Schindler via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Hello Alan, > > > >> Am 22.12.2020 um 07:17 schrieb Alan Perry via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > >> > >> I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are > Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone > here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > > > I’m storing keyboards openly in a shelf, vertical, standing on the small > edge. I alternate them front-back so the slope of the keys array is > compensating itself. Aside from some dust, the packing density is really > good. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > Unfortunately, since I live on a gravel road, dust is a huge problem here, > so I need an enclosed solution. > > alan > >
Re: Keyboard storage
> On Dec 22, 2020, at 00:51, Patrik Schindler via cctalk > wrote: > > Hello Alan, > >> Am 22.12.2020 um 07:17 schrieb Alan Perry via cctalk : >> >> I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and >> don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type >> 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know >> of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > I’m storing keyboards openly in a shelf, vertical, standing on the small > edge. I alternate them front-back so the slope of the keys array is > compensating itself. Aside from some dust, the packing density is really good. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, since I live on a gravel road, dust is a huge problem here, so I need an enclosed solution. alan
Re: Keyboard storage
Hello Alan, Am 22.12.2020 um 07:17 schrieb Alan Perry via cctalk : > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and > don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type > 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know > of a box or boxes that would work well for this? I’m storing keyboards openly in a shelf, vertical, standing on the small edge. I alternate them front-back so the slope of the keys array is compensating itself. Aside from some dust, the packing density is really good. :wq! PoC
RE: Keyboard storage
Had a ibm orig pc key board shipped in large flat rate. Game size box. Alas was,dropped on. Ornery and torn some on box... I had to remount keyboard pc inside that had moved lo and neef nd one of the corner edge til tje kry bad snapped off... that particular Clicky keyb I ad is extremely heavy for first ever ibm pc. Be ware pack really well.. Help anyone got parts for the tilter ...thing for these keyboards ...ed sharpe On Monday, December 21, 2020 Ali via cctalk wrote: > Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular > one > that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on > the > Click-N-Ship site. > > alan Yes. It is not usually stocked at the PO. You have to "order" them from the USPS website. They have the measurements there so you can verify your KBs will fit. However, I have shipped IBM 122 key terminal KBs in them without issues. Only thing that may not fit would be some of the older IBM KBs (like the ones on the Displaywriter). -Ali
Re: Keyboard storage
No worries. I use Uline for all sorts of stuff and they generally deliver within 2 days (even out here in the boonies). I always find a use for any extras. ;-) I generally avoid USPS partly because they don't deliver to our house, so we have a P.O. Box (which means I have to talk to the shipper to determine what method they use for shipping so I can give them the right address). Frankly, I don't understand because UPS and FedEx deliver right to our door (although sometimes it's fun to figure out *which* door they left the package at). TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 23:05 -0800, Alan Perry wrote: > Thanks. I had seen that one before, but didn't know what to do with > the > extra 15 boxes. > > The USPS box has the advantages of being free and being a box I am > more > likely to use to ship something with (because of the flat rate price > and > not having to deal with weighing the box). > > alan > > On 12/21/20 10:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S- > > 6496). > > They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( > > > > TTFN - Guy > > > > On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more > > > efficiently > > > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. > > > They > > > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in > > > total. > > > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > > > > > alan
Re: Keyboard storage
Thanks. I had seen that one before, but didn't know what to do with the extra 15 boxes. The USPS box has the advantages of being free and being a box I am more likely to use to ship something with (because of the flat rate price and not having to deal with weighing the box). alan On 12/21/20 10:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S-6496). They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan
Re: Keyboard storage
Try ULine (uline.com). They have a keyboard shipping box (p/n S-6496). They're only $2.70/ea but the minimum order is 25. :-( TTFN - Guy On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 22:17 -0800, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more > efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. > They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan
RE: Keyboard storage
> Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular > one > that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on > the > Click-N-Ship site. > > alan Yes. It is not usually stocked at the PO. You have to "order" them from the USPS website. They have the measurements there so you can verify your KBs will fit. However, I have shipped IBM 122 key terminal KBs in them without issues. Only thing that may not fit would be some of the older IBM KBs (like the ones on the Displaywriter). -Ali
Re: Keyboard storage
On 12/21/20 10:42 PM, Ali wrote: I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan Alan, If you have the room you can get free (you have to order them but they cost nothing and are shipped free) "game board" boxes from the USPS. These are perfect for KBs. In fact this is what I use when shipping KBs. -Ali Is this the USPS large flat rate box size that isn't the rectangular one that post offices usually have. I just noticed the size mentioned on the Click-N-Ship site. alan
RE: Keyboard storage
> I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan Alan, If you have the room you can get free (you have to order them but they cost nothing and are shipped free) "game board" boxes from the USPS. These are perfect for KBs. In fact this is what I use when shipping KBs. -Ali
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Maybe contact a shipping supply company. They have a number of boxes likely to be suitable. Warner On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:17 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently > and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They > are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. > Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? > > alan >
Keyboard storage
I have a bunch of Sun keyboards that I need to store more efficiently and don't want to risk damaging by stacking on top of each other. They are Type 4s, 5s, and 6s (without the wrist rest), maybe 10 in total. Anyone here know of a box or boxes that would work well for this? alan
