Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk 
2017-12-21 21:26 GMT+01:00 Josh Dersch via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>:

> The DIGITAL logo is visible on the inset portion of the panel next to the
> switches (it is a bit blurry).  Further, this matches up with Mattis's
> picture quite nicely.
>
> It's an interesting shade of blue, but people have been known to repaint
> things...
>
> This looks like a DEC system to me.
>

It sure is. I have not only the front panel but also the rest of the BA11-M
box . It is identical (except for the paint then...). No question about it.

Nice little box by the way. Very useful when testing Qbus boards. H7270
backplane. 18 bit though, but if I cared I could just was well convert it
to 22 bits I guess.

I have two more photos here if that could possibly convince those who still
are skeptical.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NL0wF8JEdm74A9AxZb6J06IE_RaiiaWp
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UeDQK8klLueV9dJdedQtzFt4xfDwDG_j

/Mattis


> - Josh
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Further comment.  Notice the difference in height compared to a standard
> > DEC box of that style.  Also notice he is holding up the #150 box with
> his
> > fingers.  Remind me never to arm wrestle that guy.
> > Personally, I don't think it is a DEC system at all.
> >
> > bill
> >
> > 
> > From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of jim stephens
> > via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:00 PM
> > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/20/2017 10:27 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:
> > > PDP 11/03? LSI-11?
> > >
> > > Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.
> >
> > > VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/
> > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/302392510749
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > The ad says it weighs 150#  That box is heavy, but is not a 150# item.
> > I suspect there is more to it.  There seems to be cables
> > going out of the back, perhaps to something else for the instrument.
> >
> > thanks
> > Jim
> >
>

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Wayne Sudol via cctalk 
The ad actually says "IF WEIGHT IS OVER 150 POUNDS THERE WILL BE A CHARGE
FOR LIFTGATE OR RESIDENTIAL DELIVERY "
not that it does weigh that much.
​

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk 
The DIGITAL logo is visible on the inset portion of the panel next to the
switches (it is a bit blurry).  Further, this matches up with Mattis's
picture quite nicely.

It's an interesting shade of blue, but people have been known to repaint
things...

This looks like a DEC system to me.

- Josh


On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Further comment.  Notice the difference in height compared to a standard
> DEC box of that style.  Also notice he is holding up the #150 box with his
> fingers.  Remind me never to arm wrestle that guy.
> Personally, I don't think it is a DEC system at all.
>
> bill
>
> 
> From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of jim stephens
> via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:00 PM
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay
>
>
>
> On 12/20/2017 10:27 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:
> > PDP 11/03? LSI-11?
> >
> > Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.
>
> > VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/302392510749
> >
> > Bob
> >
> The ad says it weighs 150#  That box is heavy, but is not a 150# item.
> I suspect there is more to it.  There seems to be cables
> going out of the back, perhaps to something else for the instrument.
>
> thanks
> Jim
>

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk 


> On Dec 21, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Further comment.  Notice the difference in height compared to a standard
> DEC box of that style.  Also notice he is holding up the #150 box with his
> fingers.  Remind me never to arm wrestle that guy.
> Personally, I don't think it is a DEC system at all.

Quite possible.  After all, he advertised it as "Digital Instruments" which is 
a valid company name different from Digital Equipment.

paul

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
Further comment.  Notice the difference in height compared to a standard
DEC box of that style.  Also notice he is holding up the #150 box with his
fingers.  Remind me never to arm wrestle that guy.
Personally, I don't think it is a DEC system at all.

bill


From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of jim stephens via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 3:00 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay



On 12/20/2017 10:27 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:
> PDP 11/03? LSI-11?
>
> Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.

> VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/302392510749
>
> Bob
>
The ad says it weighs 150#  That box is heavy, but is not a 150# item.
I suspect there is more to it.  There seems to be cables
going out of the back, perhaps to something else for the instrument.

thanks
Jim

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread jim stephens via cctalk 



On 12/20/2017 10:27 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:

PDP 11/03? LSI-11?

Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.



VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/302392510749

Bob

The ad says it weighs 150#  That box is heavy, but is not a 150# item.  
I suspect there is more to it.  There seems to be cables

going out of the back, perhaps to something else for the instrument.

thanks
Jim

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk 
2017-12-21 19:23 GMT+01:00 Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org
>:

> I've never seen a blue tinted front cover from DEC.  I've never seen one
> like
> that with screw holes exposed from the front.  And if you look real close
> it
> appears to have little rubber feet on the bottom.
>
> Which still leaves the question of what if anything is inside that box.
> $250
> is a lot to pay for a QBUS backplane and a PSU.  I've paid less for entire
> running systems.
>

FYI this is how my BA11-M front look like:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FK6p9YvvH9AO-WC0CvEAAWH_QZnnHSVj

Apart from the PDP-11/03 badge and the color they are identical..

/Mattis


> bill
>
> 
> From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Noel Chiappa
> via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:07 AM
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
> Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay
>
> > From: Bill Gunshannon
>
> > At best, it's a third part QBUS box.
>
> I assume that was 'third party'?
>
> No, that's a real DEC front panel. They could have put that on an off-brand
> chassis, but I would _guess_ not.
>
> (The outer housing I can see looks like the slide-in ones DEC used to hold
> the BA11-N/BA11-S, but I don't recall what the housing for the BA11-M's
> looked like.)
>
> For some reason the BA11-M's seem to have been going for more than the
> BA11-N's. Dunno why, maybe the original LSI-11's have some sort of appeal?
>
> Noel
>

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk 
anyone look through what els he has?
someone here might like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROSS-VIDEO-LIMITED-RVS-424-CP-WITH-POWER-SUPPLY-LOADED/301522351826?hash=item463421f6d2:g:yZsAAOSwx-lU2FG5

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I've never seen a blue tinted front cover from DEC.  I've never seen one
> like
> that with screw holes exposed from the front.  And if you look real close
> it
> appears to have little rubber feet on the bottom.
>
> Which still leaves the question of what if anything is inside that box.
> $250
> is a lot to pay for a QBUS backplane and a PSU.  I've paid less for entire
> running systems.
>
> bill
>
> 
> From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Noel Chiappa
> via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:07 AM
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
> Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay
>
> > From: Bill Gunshannon
>
> > At best, it's a third part QBUS box.
>
> I assume that was 'third party'?
>
> No, that's a real DEC front panel. They could have put that on an off-brand
> chassis, but I would _guess_ not.
>
> (The outer housing I can see looks like the slide-in ones DEC used to hold
> the BA11-N/BA11-S, but I don't recall what the housing for the BA11-M's
> looked like.)
>
> For some reason the BA11-M's seem to have been going for more than the
> BA11-N's. Dunno why, maybe the original LSI-11's have some sort of appeal?
>
> Noel
>

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
I've never seen a blue tinted front cover from DEC.  I've never seen one like
that with screw holes exposed from the front.  And if you look real close it
appears to have little rubber feet on the bottom.

Which still leaves the question of what if anything is inside that box.  $250
is a lot to pay for a QBUS backplane and a PSU.  I've paid less for entire
running systems.

bill


From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> on behalf of Noel Chiappa via 
cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 11:07 AM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

> From: Bill Gunshannon

> At best, it's a third part QBUS box.

I assume that was 'third party'?

No, that's a real DEC front panel. They could have put that on an off-brand
chassis, but I would _guess_ not.

(The outer housing I can see looks like the slide-in ones DEC used to hold
the BA11-N/BA11-S, but I don't recall what the housing for the BA11-M's
looked like.)

For some reason the BA11-M's seem to have been going for more than the
BA11-N's. Dunno why, maybe the original LSI-11's have some sort of appeal?

Noel

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
> From: Bill Gunshannon

> At best, it's a third part QBUS box.

I assume that was 'third party'?

No, that's a real DEC front panel. They could have put that on an off-brand
chassis, but I would _guess_ not.

(The outer housing I can see looks like the slide-in ones DEC used to hold
the BA11-N/BA11-S, but I don't recall what the housing for the BA11-M's
looked like.)

For some reason the BA11-M's seem to have been going for more than the
BA11-N's. Dunno why, maybe the original LSI-11's have some sort of appeal?

Noel

Re: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
That's a lot to pay for a box that might have nothing in it at all.
At best, it's a third part QBUS box.

bill


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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 1:27 AM
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Subject: Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

PDP 11/03? LSI-11?

Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/302392510749?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


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Miss categorized DEC box on ebay

2017-12-21 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk 

PDP 11/03? LSI-11?

Maybe someone can use it. Nice blue color.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIGITAL-INSTRUMENTS-COUNTER-HG-ELEMENTS/302392510749?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


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