Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-05 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/05/2018 05:00 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote:
> There is a "contact" link on this page:
> http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?rsx180
> Maybe it works.
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
>>>  > That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might
>>>  > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.
>>>
>>> I think that's Hector Peraza's site.  His email address is listed; you
>>> could try writing to him.
>>>
>>> De
>>>
>> Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC
>> Posted by
>> hperaza
>>  on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT
>> View Forum Message
>>  <>
>> Reply to Message
>> lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to 
>> see a bit more
>> coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, 
>> and emulator, I know of
>> several efforts by several people already underway.  I am very interested in 
>> the emulation side of
>> things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used 
>> in an FPGA.  With the
>> annoying bugs fixed, of course!
>> Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, 
>> of course). That could
>> be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that 
>> is intended to work
>> on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a 
>> bit in an additional CPU
>> control register.
>> Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the 
>> known Z280 bugs?
>> So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete.
>> Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I 
>> know you've probably
>> posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these 
>> efforts and see what
>> coordination might be possible.
>> OK, here is my list:
>>  native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently 
>> working on that)
>> debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the 
>> chip) get UZI280 working
>> (haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix 
>> port of MP/M better hard
>> disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with 
>> automatic recognition of
>> partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every 
>> time partitions change)
>> better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk 
>> timing parameters to
>> the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL 
>> Z280 core,
>> perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to 
>> make something like this,
>> so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I 
>> also have my own,
>> other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many 
>> years ago for the Z80
>> (now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the 
>> Z280 has many
>> PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby 
>> project.
>>
>>
>
I'd love to see source and to my eyes its the first really new OS on z80
family hardware
since the few from near the '80s.

I don't happen to have a P112 but versions for other hardware has me
interested.

I have S100 (Compupro, North*star, AmproLB+, SB180, BCC180, kaypros, and
more
than a few others.  Maybe I should crank a system using real late
version Z280s .

RSX (RT-11 and others) on PDP-11 is why I have a bunch of Qbus 11s as
they are
fairly small and friendly. 

Allison




Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-05 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk
There is a "contact" link on this page:
http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?rsx180
Maybe it works.
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 6:48 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
 wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> >  > That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might
> >  > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.
> >
> > I think that's Hector Peraza's site.  His email address is listed; you
> > could try writing to him.
> >
> > De
> >
>
> Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC
> Posted by
> hperaza
>  on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT
> View Forum Message
>  <>
> Reply to Message
> lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to see 
> a bit more
> coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, 
> and emulator, I know of
> several efforts by several people already underway.  I am very interested in 
> the emulation side of
> things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used in 
> an FPGA.  With the
> annoying bugs fixed, of course!
> Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, 
> of course). That could
> be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that is 
> intended to work
> on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a 
> bit in an additional CPU
> control register.
> Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the 
> known Z280 bugs?
> So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete.
> Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I 
> know you've probably
> posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these 
> efforts and see what
> coordination might be possible.
> OK, here is my list:
>  native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently 
> working on that)
> debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the chip) 
> get UZI280 working
> (haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix 
> port of MP/M better hard
> disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with 
> automatic recognition of
> partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every time 
> partitions change)
> better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk 
> timing parameters to
> the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL 
> Z280 core,
> perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to 
> make something like this,
> so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I 
> also have my own,
> other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many 
> years ago for the Z80
> (now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the 
> Z280 has many
> PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby 
> project.
>
>


-- 
mvh
Torfinn


Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 12/4/18 7:51 AM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
>  > That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might
>  > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.
> 
> I think that's Hector Peraza's site.  His email address is listed; you
> could try writing to him.
> 
> De
> 

Subject: Re: Interested in a Z280 SBC
Posted by
hperaza
 on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:44:09 GMT
View Forum Message
 <>
Reply to Message
lowen wrote on Wed, 11 October 2017 06:44While I personally would like to see a 
bit more
coordination of efforts especially in the area of the C compiler, assembler, 
and emulator, I know of
several efforts by several people already underway.  I am very interested in 
the emulation side of
things, and even going as far as a VHDL or verilog core that could be used in 
an FPGA.  With the
annoying bugs fixed, of course!
Some of the bugs could even be emulated (if they are not of erratic nature, of 
course). That could
be useful in case someone wants to test a program on the FPGA version that is 
intended to work
on the real iron as well. The "compatibility" mode could be controlled by a bit 
in an additional CPU
control register.
Which brings up another question: is there any updated list somewhere of the 
known Z280 bugs?
So far the information available is rather fragmented and incomplete.
Quote:To all who are involved in doing a compiler, assembler, or emulator: I 
know you've probably
posted before, but I would like to get a list together of all of these efforts 
and see what
coordination might be possible.
OK, here is my list:
 native Z280 (macro)-assembler, preferably M80 or SLR compatible (currently 
working on that)
debugger (e.g. like DDTZ, but using the single-step capabilities of the chip) 
get UZI280 working
(haven't even looked at it yet) and add more utilities, etc. same for Fuzix 
port of MP/M better hard
disk support (e.g. via FDISK utility like the one for the P112, with automatic 
recognition of
partitions in CP/M and UZI so one will not have to change the BIOS every time 
partitions change)
better ROM setup? again taking the P112 as an example (i.e. adding disk timing 
parameters to
the NV RAM, if possible add a simple embedded debugger?) a Verilog or VHDL Z280 
core,
perhaps taking T80 as the base. And if I really get the time, would like to 
make something like this,
so it could be plugged directly into the CPU280 CPU socket. and like Lamar I 
also have my own,
other niche project - a port of a multitasking, RSX-11M-like OS I wrote many 
years ago for the Z80
(now ported to the Z180). The PDP-11 always was my favorite machine, and the 
Z280 has many
PDP-ish features, including a similar MMU, so for me is an interesting hobby 
project.




Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
 > That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might
 > be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.

I think that's Hector Peraza's site.  His email address is listed; you
could try writing to him.

De


Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 12/4/18 10:28 AM, Warner Losh wrote:


On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:45 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:

On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote:
>> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw
>>
>> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my
>> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge,
>> Gitlab, et al.
>>
>>
> I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180
>
That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might

be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.


I have two P112's.  :-)

http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?downloads

has two links to download binaries at the bottom for RSX-180




What about the source?  Binaries are fun, but the source

would be a lot more fun.


bill



Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 7:45 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> > On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote:
> >> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw
> >>
> >> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my
> >> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge,
> >> Gitlab, et al.
> >>
> >>
> > I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180
> >
> That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might
>
> be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.
>
>
> I have two P112's.  :-)
>

http://p112.sourceforge.net/index.php?downloads

has two links to download binaries at the bottom for RSX-180

Warner


Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk

On 12/4/18 9:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote:
>> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw
>>
>> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my
>> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge,
>> Gitlab, et al.
>>
>>
> I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180
>
That's all I could find, too.  If anyone knows where the source might

be or stumbles on it, I would definitely be interested as well.


I have two P112's.  :-)


bill




Re: P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/04/2018 04:26 AM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote:
>
> I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw
>
> If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my
> hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge,
> Gitlab, et al.
>
>

I did find this here: https://en.everybodywiki.com/RSX-180

Allison


P112 runs RSX-11

2018-12-04 Thread David Griffith via cctalk



I don't know who did it, but here's a video of a P112 running RSX: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s6IOCCk3Uw


If the creator of this thing is reading, I'd very much like to get my 
hands on RSX-180 and put it up on the P112 page at Sourceforge, Gitlab, 
et al.



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