Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
Thanks for all the advice. Oops,A little late reading whole brittle plastic warning. nothing important is missing, but there are little chips of plastic everywhere now. The plastic does not age well. The hard drive had failed, i replaced it. Im going to find a newer ide cd drive and try swapping the old one out, i suspect it is not reading my cd's. I tried pressing the C key at power on, no luck. The drive spins up and there is a little activity at first but it does not appear to even be trying to read the cd. The floppy drive is all gummed up, but that may be something i can clean out and repair. Plan is to get mac os 8 or 9 installed. I already have an ibook g4 running 10.4, i do not have much interest in osx. the 68k and ppc machines are what i grew up with, thats my focus. I have a pile of mac se's, hopefully if i can get the g3 running it will make getting media made for the se's easier. --Devin On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: >> I went through a number of "this totally works on a beige G3" MacOS 8.x and >> 9.x ISOs before finding one that would boot my beige G3 desktop. I think it >> ended up being MacOS 9.2.1. > > There is a "boot-any" CD from the last eMac that can boot OS 9 that will boot > any OS 9.2.2-compatible Mac, of which the beige G3 should qualify. The > part# is 691-4323-A. > > 9.2.2 has some slight performance improvements on native G3 and New World > systems, but for my other beige Macs I prefer 9.1. > > -- > personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ > -- > Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com > -- I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. -- Joe Walsh > ---
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
> I went through a number of "this totally works on a beige G3" MacOS 8.x and > 9.x ISOs before finding one that would boot my beige G3 desktop. I think it > ended up being MacOS 9.2.1. There is a "boot-any" CD from the last eMac that can boot OS 9 that will boot any OS 9.2.2-compatible Mac, of which the beige G3 should qualify. The part# is 691-4323-A. 9.2.2 has some slight performance improvements on native G3 and New World systems, but for my other beige Macs I prefer 9.1. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. -- Joe Walsh ---
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
I went through a number of "this totally works on a beige G3" MacOS 8.x and 9.x ISOs before finding one that would boot my beige G3 desktop. I think it ended up being MacOS 9.2.1. Thanks, Jonathan On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Also (please correct me if I'm wrong), you lose the integrated floppy > > access. > > You are correct. I don't believe it even works in 10.2, which *is* > supported. > > -- > personal: > http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- > Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * > ckai...@floodgap.com > -- Si c'est gratuit, vous etes le produit. -- > -- >
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
> Also (please correct me if I'm wrong), you lose the integrated floppy > access. You are correct. I don't believe it even works in 10.2, which *is* supported. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Si c'est gratuit, vous etes le produit.
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
On 12/12/2017 09:34 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Although they make a very fast Classic MacOS box and a fairly slow OS > X one, I found it very worthwhile to have OS X on there, even if just > for downloading all the various tools and things you need to get > Classic MacOS running nicely. > > http://lowendmac.com/1997/beige-power-mac-g3-1997/ > > http://lowendmac.com/1998/beige-power-mac-g3-1998/ I've run 10.3 on mine; yes, it's very slow--and you're best advised to allocate plenty of disk space if you opt for the complete set of CDs, including the development tools. While you could fit 9.x comfortably on a 250 MB drive, that's not the case for OS X. Also (please correct me if I'm wrong), you lose the integrated floppy access. --Chuck
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
On 12 December 2017 at 12:29, Alexandre Souza via cctalk wrote: I'd only disagree with 1 bit of this. > - Use MacOS 9. They run 10.2 fine and can be coaxed into 10.3 quite readily with XPostFacto. They will take any standard ATA hard disk. Stick in one of up to 128GB -- they run into problems with drives bigger than that -- and dual-boot both MacOS 9.2.2 and OS X. (OS X must go inside the first 8GB of the drive. I think MacOS 9 doesn't care.) OS X is _far_ more internet-capable and it can read and write almost any old CD or DVD-ROM and happily read and write USB keys (if you stick a cheap commodity USB2 or USB2+Firewire PCI card in there). They use PC100 SD-RAM too, so 192MB - 384MB RAM is easy -- almost any old 64MB or 128MB DIMMs will work. With certain very special DIMMs you can have 3 x 256MB for 768MB RAM, but they are hard to find. Although they make a very fast Classic MacOS box and a fairly slow OS X one, I found it very worthwhile to have OS X on there, even if just for downloading all the various tools and things you need to get Classic MacOS running nicely. http://lowendmac.com/1997/beige-power-mac-g3-1997/ http://lowendmac.com/1998/beige-power-mac-g3-1998/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • Google Mail/Talk/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven • Skype/LinkedIn/AIM/Yahoo: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 • ČR/WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal: +420 702 829 053
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
I have a pair of beige G3, checklist: - PULL the battery. if it is drained, it sometimes won't boot. Sometimes even won't power on! - Take care with the plastics, they're brittle - The CD **ON THE POWERMAC G3** can be of any brand to boot (most macs need an Apple branded CD!). So if you won't boot, probably the cd-romd river is gone. Change it for any working IDE drive. - Use MacOS 9. Anything else? Em 11/12/2017 23:04, devin davison via cctalk escreveu: Battery does not appear to ahve leaked but is planned to be replaced. I was unaware of having to press a key to boot to cd. Ill give it a go. Thanks for the quick response. --Devin On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 12/11/2017 03:35 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might also need to replace the PRAM battery. I'll second the bit about the PRAM battery. I've got one of these beige G3 boxes and can affirm that a failing PRAM battery can create all sorts of strange havoc, including not powering on at all. Note that said battery is 3.6V, so a CR2032 won't do it. --Chuck .
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
Check the date code on the 'new' battery, there are quite a few sellers that will sell you a battery 10 years old. Fry's is a perfect example. -pete On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:04 PM, devin davison via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Battery does not appear to ahve leaked but is planned to be replaced. > I was unaware of having to press a key to boot to cd. Ill give it a > go. > Thanks for the quick response. > > --Devin > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/11/2017 03:35 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > > > > >> Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might > also need to replace the PRAM battery. > >> > > > > I'll second the bit about the PRAM battery. I've got one of these > > beige G3 boxes and can affirm that a failing PRAM battery can create all > > sorts of strange havoc, including not powering on at all. > > > > Note that said battery is 3.6V, so a CR2032 won't do it. > > > > --Chuck > >
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
Battery does not appear to ahve leaked but is planned to be replaced. I was unaware of having to press a key to boot to cd. Ill give it a go. Thanks for the quick response. --Devin On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 12/11/2017 03:35 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > >> Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might also >> need to replace the PRAM battery. >> > > I'll second the bit about the PRAM battery. I've got one of these > beige G3 boxes and can affirm that a failing PRAM battery can create all > sorts of strange havoc, including not powering on at all. > > Note that said battery is 3.6V, so a CR2032 won't do it. > > --Chuck
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
On 12/11/2017 03:35 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might also > need to replace the PRAM battery. > I'll second the bit about the PRAM battery. I've got one of these beige G3 boxes and can affirm that a failing PRAM battery can create all sorts of strange havoc, including not powering on at all. Note that said battery is 3.6V, so a CR2032 won't do it. --Chuck
Re: Picked up beige Mac G3
> On 11 Dec 2017, at 23:18, devin davison via cctalk > wrote: > > Someone just dropped off a mac g3 at the scrapyard I work at and I picked it > up. > It has a failing hard drive. Replaced the drive, downloaded and burned > a disk with mac os 8 on it, but it refuses to boot to it. How do I go > about installing the software on this machine? > > Not sure if this is the place to ask, but figured it would be worth a > shot. Thanks. Hi Devin, Going from memory you need to press ‘C’ to boot from CD and you might also need to replace the PRAM battery. Cheers — Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs - Celebrating Computing History from 1972 onwards binarydinosaurs.co.uk facebook.com/binarydinosaurs
Picked up beige Mac G3
Someone just dropped off a mac g3 at the scrapyard I work at and I picked it up. It has a failing hard drive. Replaced the drive, downloaded and burned a disk with mac os 8 on it, but it refuses to boot to it. How do I go about installing the software on this machine? Not sure if this is the place to ask, but figured it would be worth a shot. Thanks.
