Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> On Jun 28, 2019, at 10:56 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk > wrote: > >> ... >> > I have had my own DNS for 20 years, it's pretty simple stuff. ... > > So, jumping in late to this conversation, why does it matter that Dyn > and/or Oracle do not supply this service? In my case, it isn't the DNS service but the dynamic part that matters. I want a name for my home system, which gets its address from the ISP and that address changes from time to time. paul
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:44 PM Charles Dickman via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:55 AM Ali via cctalk > wrote: > > > > > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service > > > > for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement > > > provider. > > > > I have had my own DNS for 20 years, it's pretty simple stuff. I have a master and a slave linux box, used to be freebsd but when I moved it to Amazon I changed to Fedora I think. My client pays for it, but that said, for other DNSing I usually just use Godaddy's DNS, it's easy to use and it comes with the domain registration service. Not expensive either. They basically leave me alone and I rarely need to do much to it. Having my own DNS is more or less just a legacy thing that one of my customers needs, does not serve me to have one when it's freely provided by godaddy. So, jumping in late to this conversation, why does it matter that Dyn and/or Oracle do not supply this service? I may have missed a key point. It's also easier said than done to set up the DNS I suppose, but if anyone really needed a temp DNS I could provide it. Contact me privately. I can also take a look at a DNS record for bugs/issues with reverse lookup and other OT stuff. Bill
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 1:55 AM Ali via cctalk wrote: > > > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service > > > for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement > > provider. > > What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being > offered as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option? > > This is a quote from the email I received regarding the Standard DNS service. It was not the free service. "Now that this integration work is complete, Oracle is announcing the end-of-life of the Standard DNS service in favor of our upgraded version on the Oracle Cloud Infrastructure platform. On May 31, 2020, the “EOL Date”, the Standard DNS will be retired and will no longer be available. The upgrade to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure will require some actions on your part and must be completed on or before the EOL Date. " I take this to mean that I have one year to migrate to Oracle or move along. -Ali > >
RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Jon Elson via cctalk > Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 11:56 AM > To: Charles Dickman ; gene...@ezwind.net; > Discussion@ > Subject: Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS > > On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: > > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for > > my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider. > > > > -chuck > > > I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though. > Godaddy also provides that service. Don't go with the cheapest, they could go > out of business anytime. My secondary DNS provider did just that, a month > after I paid up for 2 years. > > Jon Though they may score no better than Oracle on some folks "companies to avoid" list, I use Google as my registrar https://domains.google.com and they do free dynamic DNS for domains you run with them supporting a handful of client protocols (https://support.google.com/domains/answer/6147083) - I use dyndns2 coming from my EdgeRouter Lite, so don't need a program running on a desktop and it has been quite nice. Sophie
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 06/26/2019 08:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider. -chuck I use Network Solutions, they are a bit expensive, though. Godaddy also provides that service. Don't go with the cheapest, they could go out of business anytime. My secondary DNS provider did just that, a month after I paid up for 2 years. Jon
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, da...@kdbarto.org wrote: From what I can determine the paid service will continue, it is the free service that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to (until this The free service from dyndns.org had been stopped several years ago (somewhere between 2012 and 2014). I know that because I was forced to look for a free alternative. Christian
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 7:03 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > >> There has not been a free option for seveal years. I switched to the >> paid version. >> >> But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being >> digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with >> acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left >> afterwards, is "excretion".) > > > True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be > ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3 > year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering > refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the > landscape will have changed again. > > One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for > me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I > don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs. > > -Ali > From what I can determine the paid service will continue, it is the free service that is being stopped. Kinda sad really. I used to (until this happened) recommend dyn as a good service to use. Nice to see the recommendations for others popping up here. Time to do a little research. I’m paid for the next 5 years with Dyn. At that time I’ll have to re-evaluate my options. David
RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> There has not been a free option for seveal years. I switched to the > paid version. > > But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being > digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with > acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left > afterwards, is "excretion".) True that. However, the email I got seems to indicate the service will be ongoing for a while and speaking from a personal standpoint I paid for a 3 year renewal just a few months back. So unless they are planning on offering refunds I expect my service to continue for a few more years. By then the landscape will have changed again. One issue with the other providers is the lack of integration - at least for me. On most of the gear I use the DynDns service is a in HW option. So I don't have to run clients on my clients to update IPs. -Ali
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:54:58PM -0700, Ali via cctalk wrote: > As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered as a service. Is it > because there is no longer a free option? There has not been a free option for seveal years. I switched to the paid version. But now it seems that having been eaten by Oracle, it is now being digested. (I have seen this process happen over and over again with acquisitions. The final stage, of selling off whatever is left afterwards, is "excretion".) mcl
RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Ali via cctalk > Sent: 27 June 2019 06:55 > To: 'Grant Taylor' ; 'General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS > > > > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service > > > for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement > > provider. > > What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered > as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option? > > -Ali I bought a domain from Mythic Beasts. The domain is I think around £6 a year but includes free dynamic DNS https://www.mythic-beasts.com/domains Dave
RE: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
> > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service > > for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement > provider. What is the exact issue here? As I understand it DynDNS is still being offered as a service. Is it because there is no longer a free option? -Ali
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 6/26/19 7:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider. How many people are effected by this? Straw Poll: Please raise your hand (read: reply) if you are effected. Please include any features you'd like to see in a replacement. I see at least the following requirements: 1) Compatibility with existing equipment. 2) The ability to use your own domain name. 3) Be secure. I ask, because reviewing dyndns-server-perl [1] makes me think that it's possible (read: not hard) to host this for other people. 1) It seems to use HTTP's basic authentication to protect the script (interface) that (initiates) the updates. 2) This can be a glorified gateway into RFC standard Dynamic DNS updates. (Which are trivial to support.) [1] https://github.com/mnalis/dyndns-server-perl -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On 6/26/2019 8:36 PM, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider. -chuck I use Duck DNS. I can't really say much about it though. I just signed up last month. So far it works fine. It's free. The DNS name changes fairly soon after my home IP updates. It works with my Ubiquiti EdgeRouter. The biggest negative I have so far is that you have to use the x.duckdns.org hostname. One that uses a name of your choice (and registration) would be nice. Do any do that? For free? Or cheap? I didn't dig real deep into providers. -- John H. Reinhardt
Re: OT: the end of Dyn DNS
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 09:36:30PM -0400, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: > Now that Dyn has been absorbed by Oracle I need a new DNS service for my > vanity domain. I welcome suggestions for a replacement provider. I was just investigating free alternatives myself earlier today. (I have not yet come up with a conclusion.) I currently use the free he.net ivp6 tunnel so I may already be set up for their free DNS service, but I don't know yet. (I can recommend the tunnel.) Most of the articles on the web mention: Dynu, afraid.org, Duck DNS, and No-IP among a few others. The latter sounds like they are really pushing their paid model, though. (OTOH each of the above has paid tiers for all but the most basic users.) If you are using pfSense like I am, they already support: https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/dns/dynamic-dns.html I would be happy to hear of actual experiences with any of these. mcl
