Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Paul Koning

> For some definition of "standard". ... other machines of that time or 
earlier
> numbered bits according to the power of 2 they represent, i.e., the 
"current
> standard".

Well, the vast majority of computers 'back then' numbered bits (and byes)
from left to right - which is why in numbers in TCP and IP, the bytes go from
left to right (necessitating byte swaps on most current architectures before
sending a packet out into the network).

The majority of computers being attached to the network when TCP/IP was being
defined used that byte order (I think PDP-11's were the only exception, but
I'm too lazy to check a copy of HOSTS.TXT to make sure), and so that's what
we're stuck with now.

So, I can see, centuries in the future, the bytes in a word on the Internet
(and it _is_ capitalized) still being in an order set by long-dead computers.

Kind of like how rail gauge today still mimics the width of Roman carts (yes,
I know the story is only half-true, but it's not wholly wrong).

Noel

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Aaron Jackson via cctalk]

Good idea, Rob. Thanks!

I would be interested in one or two of the Ultrix tapes if they are
MIPS/DECstation.



Rob Jarratt writes:

> Aaron/Anders,
>
> Aaron lives relatively close to me, my parents live in the same city. So if
> there is anything that Aaron wants that is still available then perhaps we
> could combine it into one package and share a bit of the shipping cost. I
> could get it to Aaron later.
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Aaron
>> Jackson via cctalk
>> Sent: 26 May 2017 23:14
>> To: Anders Nelson <anders.k.nel...@gmail.com>; General Discussion:
> On-Topic
>> and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
>> Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA
>>
>> I would love an LK421, although I guess it is taken now. Although shipping
> to the
>> UK would be horrific using FedEx.
>>
>>
>> Anders Nelson via cctalk writes:
>>
>> > It's an lk421
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Jackson
>> PhD Student, Computer Vision Laboratory, Uni of Nottingham
>> http://aaronsplace.co.uk/


--
Aaron Jackson
PhD Student, Computer Vision Laboratory, Uni of Nottingham
http://aaronsplace.co.uk/

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Rob Jarratt via cctalk]

Aaron/Anders,

Aaron lives relatively close to me, my parents live in the same city. So if
there is anything that Aaron wants that is still available then perhaps we
could combine it into one package and share a bit of the shipping cost. I
could get it to Aaron later.

Regards

Rob

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Jackson via cctalk
> Sent: 26 May 2017 23:14
> To: Anders Nelson <anders.k.nel...@gmail.com>; General Discussion:
On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA
> 
> I would love an LK421, although I guess it is taken now. Although shipping
to the
> UK would be horrific using FedEx.
> 
> 
> Anders Nelson via cctalk writes:
> 
> > It's an lk421
> 
> 
> --
> Aaron Jackson
> PhD Student, Computer Vision Laboratory, Uni of Nottingham
> http://aaronsplace.co.uk/

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Aaron Jackson via cctalk]

I would love an LK421, although I guess it is taken now. Although
shipping to the UK would be horrific using FedEx.


Anders Nelson via cctalk writes:

> It's an lk421


--
Aaron Jackson
PhD Student, Computer Vision Laboratory, Uni of Nottingham
http://aaronsplace.co.uk/

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Jason Howe via cctalk]

Gah!  This is what I get for ignoring this list for a couple days.

I'd love to grab those DEC 3000's for spares. I'm in Seattle and a trip 
to Cali isn't in the cards right now. :(


--Jason


On 05/21/2017 07:36 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote:

Sorry, forgot - Alphas! Two DEC 3000 model 400, one DEC 3000 model 600,
one DEC 3000 model 600S, and an AlphaServer 600 IIRC.

VAXserver 3300
VAX 4000 model 300
DECtalk DTC01
numerous DEC BA42
DEC "leprechaun" boxes (think VAXstation 2000)

Mac 7200/90
5-10 color CRTs - VRT19, VR299, VR290
Couple smaller HP-badged Trinitrons

TEK 454
Summasketch 2 w/ cursor

Many cables, disks, other random bits!

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

Hi again,

What a workout! I've followed up already with those who requested their
respective items with me in order. If anyone passes on shipment I'll give
the next in line a chance.

Turns out Peter had a bunch of those Motorola brick flip-phones too so I'm
harvesting the displays for my DIY wristwatch obsession. A good day indeed!

=]

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On May 25, 2017 11:39 AM, "Anders Nelson"  wrote:

> Car's fixed and I'm here now. I'll be adding videos/pictures if anyone has
> specific questions!:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/nDHumqhx61vgL1DV7
>
> =]
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On May 24, 2017 3:19 PM, "Anders Nelson" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have news,
>>
>> On my way over, my engine bay turned into a hot tub party of steam
>> courtesy of coolant leaking all over the block. The shop was on the way so
>> it's being repaired​ now but I wasn't able to get to Mesa. =[ I might try
>> tomorrow...
>>
>> How obnoxious, I hate to get people's hopes up and not deliver.
>>
>> =]
>>
>> --
>> Anders Nelson
>>
>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>
>> www.erogear.com
>>
>> On May 24, 2017 11:39 AM, "Anders Nelson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
>> PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.
>>
>> Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
>> anything but I'll do my best.
>>
>> The Rules!:
>>
>>- DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer
>>first. After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should
>>he/she decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.
>>
>>- I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is
>>unlikely to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!
>>
>>- I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*.
>>If there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.
>>
>>- After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to
>>estimate the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the
>>FedEx packing service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.
>>
>> Here we go
>>
>> --
>> Anders Nelson
>>
>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>
>> www.erogear.com
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson > > wrote:
>>
>>> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick
>>> it up and ship it for you!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Anders Nelson
>>>
>>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>>
>>> www.erogear.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
>>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>>
 A few more things

 HP 1650A logic analyser
 A couple Nova core memory boards
 lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc


 The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
 really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to
 keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone
 local could pick it up that would be great

 Peter Wallace
 Mesa Electronics


>>>
>>
>>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[shadoooo via cctalk]

Hello,
given the rules, I think the winner could be me! :)
I hope it would not cost me a liver for shipment
As I mentioned in my direct email to you,
if the DECtalk business goes to the end, I would be interested also on the
couple of Data General memory board, these could fit in a Nova I have here,
I think.
If you need address for shipping estimation to Italy, please answer to my
email, or write to the address used in this newsgroup.

Many thanks for your efforts! :)
Andrea

   - DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
   After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should
he/she
   decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

Car's fixed and I'm here now. I'll be adding videos/pictures if anyone has
specific questions!:

https://goo.gl/photos/nDHumqhx61vgL1DV7

=]
--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On May 24, 2017 3:19 PM, "Anders Nelson"  wrote:

> I have news,
>
> On my way over, my engine bay turned into a hot tub party of steam
> courtesy of coolant leaking all over the block. The shop was on the way so
> it's being repaired​ now but I wasn't able to get to Mesa. =[ I might try
> tomorrow...
>
> How obnoxious, I hate to get people's hopes up and not deliver.
>
> =]
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On May 24, 2017 11:39 AM, "Anders Nelson" 
> wrote:
>
> Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
> PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.
>
> Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
> anything but I'll do my best.
>
> The Rules!:
>
>- DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
>After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should he/she
>decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.
>
>- I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is
>unlikely to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!
>
>- I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*.
>If there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.
>
>- After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to
>estimate the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the
>FedEx packing service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.
>
> Here we go
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson 
> wrote:
>
>> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
>> up and ship it for you!
>>
>> --
>> Anders Nelson
>>
>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>
>> www.erogear.com
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> A few more things
>>>
>>> HP 1650A logic analyser
>>> A couple Nova core memory boards
>>> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
>>>
>>>
>>> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
>>> really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to
>>> keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone
>>> local could pick it up that would be great
>>>
>>> Peter Wallace
>>> Mesa Electronics
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 05/25/2017 08:13 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
.
> 
> For some definition of "standard".  It seems that IBM did this, and DEC prior 
> to the PDP-11, but other machines of that time or earlier numbered bits 
> according to the power of 2 they represent, i.e., the "current standard".  
> CDC and Burroughs are examples.

Not all CDC machines did; consider the Cyber 200 series:

http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/cdc/cyber/cyber_200/60256000_STAR-100hw_Dec75.pdf

But that only made sense, as the Cyber 200 machines are bit-addressable.
  For a time, my work straddled both the Cyber 70 and 200 systems, and
so had to adjust my thinking.  Not just bit-ordering, but the 70/6000
used 6-bit display code, while the 200 used 8 bit ASCII.

Fun times.

--Chuck

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On May 25, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> From: Anders Nelson
> 
>> Heavens, why are the bit positions in descending order right to left in
>> that PCM-12?
> 
> Numbering bits in descending order from right to left (AKA increasing order
> from left to right) used to be the standard - IBM S/360, PDP-10, etc, etc
> all did it that way.

For some definition of "standard".  It seems that IBM did this, and DEC prior 
to the PDP-11, but other machines of that time or earlier numbered bits 
according to the power of 2 they represent, i.e., the "current standard".  CDC 
and Burroughs are examples.

I just went back a bit, and found something interesting: the Dutch machine ARRA 
(around 1951, relay based, only worked once) has IBM style bit numbering.  But 
its successor ARRA II (1953, tubes) uses "current" ordering.  Perhaps the 
reason is that the description of ARRA II was written by Dijkstra.

paul

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Anders Nelson

> Heavens, why are the bit positions in descending order right to left in
> that PCM-12?

Numbering bits in descending order from right to left (AKA increasing order
from left to right) used to be the standard - IBM S/360, PDP-10, etc, etc
all did it that way.

Noel

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Rob Jarratt via cctalk]

Oh dear. I hope it is fixed soon and not too costly. I think we all appreciate 
your effort to help save this equipment.

Regards

Rob

Sent from my Windows 10 phone

From: Anders Nelson via cctalk
Sent: 24 May 2017 23:20
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

I have news,

On my way over, my engine bay turned into a hot tub party of steam courtesy
of coolant leaking all over the block. The shop was on the way so it's
being repaired​ now but I wasn't able to get to Mesa. =[ I might try
tomorrow...

How obnoxious, I hate to get people's hopes up and not deliver.

=]

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On May 24, 2017 11:39 AM, "Anders Nelson" <anders.k.nel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.

Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
anything but I'll do my best.

The Rules!:

   - DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
   After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should he/she
   decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.

   - I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is unlikely
   to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!

   - I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*. If
   there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.

   - After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to estimate
   the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the FedEx packing
   service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.

Here we go

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson <anders.k.nel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
> up and ship it for you!
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> A few more things
>>
>> HP 1650A logic analyser
>> A couple Nova core memory boards
>> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
>>
>>
>> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
>> really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to
>> keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone
>> local could pick it up that would be great
>>
>> Peter Wallace
>> Mesa Electronics
>>
>>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

I have news,

On my way over, my engine bay turned into a hot tub party of steam courtesy
of coolant leaking all over the block. The shop was on the way so it's
being repaired​ now but I wasn't able to get to Mesa. =[ I might try
tomorrow...

How obnoxious, I hate to get people's hopes up and not deliver.

=]

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On May 24, 2017 11:39 AM, "Anders Nelson"  wrote:

Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.

Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
anything but I'll do my best.

The Rules!:

   - DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
   After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should he/she
   decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.

   - I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is unlikely
   to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!

   - I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*. If
   there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.

   - After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to estimate
   the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the FedEx packing
   service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.

Here we go

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson 
wrote:

> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
> up and ship it for you!
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> A few more things
>>
>> HP 1650A logic analyser
>> A couple Nova core memory boards
>> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
>>
>>
>> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
>> really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to
>> keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone
>> local could pick it up that would be great
>>
>> Peter Wallace
>> Mesa Electronics
>>
>>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Jarratt RMA via cctalk]

If FedEx is the only option then I think that may have to rule me out, shipping
to the UK would be prohibitive. I had found a good rate with Parcel Monkey, if
that is an option then I am still keen.

Thanks for your help!

Regards

Rob

> 
> On 24 May 2017 at 19:39 Anders Nelson via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
> PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.
> 
> Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
> anything but I'll do my best.
> 
> The Rules!:
> 
> - DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
> After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should he/she
> decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.
> 
> - I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is unlikely
> to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!
> 
> - I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*. If
> there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.
> 
> - After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to estimate
> the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the FedEx
> packing
> service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.
> 
> Here we go
> 
> --
> Anders Nelson
> 
> +1 (517) 775-6129
> 
> www.erogear.com
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson 
> wrote:
> 
> > To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick
> > it
> > up and ship it for you!
> >
> > --
> > Anders Nelson
> >
> > +1 (517) 775-6129
> >
> > www.erogear.com
> >
> > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> A few more things
> >>
> >> HP 1650A logic analyser
> >> A couple Nova core memory boards
> >> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
> >>
> >>
> >> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
> >> really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying
> >> to
> >> keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if
> >> someone
> >> local could pick it up that would be great
> >>
> >> Peter Wallace
> >> Mesa Electronics
> >>
> >>
> >
> 

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 09:57:01AM -0700, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote:
> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
> up and ship it for you!

I guess I'm late to the game. But put me on the queue.

/P

> 
> --
> Anders Nelson
> 
> +1 (517) 775-6129
> 
> www.erogear.com
> 
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
> > A few more things
> >
> > HP 1650A logic analyser
> > A couple Nova core memory boards
> > lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
> >
> >
> > The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I really
> > have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to keep
> > production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone local
> > could pick it up that would be great
> >
> > Peter Wallace
> > Mesa Electronics
> >
> >

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[shadoooo via cctalk]

Hello Anders,
thanks for your offer!
I wrote you an email, I would be glad to receive the DECtalk!

Andrea

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

Alright I have my bearings, God help me. I'll make a trip *today* at 1pm
PST, so 1.5 hours from now. I should be there for 1.5 hours or so.

Please send me your prioritized wish lists ASAP - I can't guarantee
anything but I'll do my best.

The Rules!:

   - DECTalk priority goes to the person who responded to my offer first.
   After I get shipping estimates (FedEx services only, please) should he/she
   decline I'll offer it to the next person to respond.

   - I drive a coupe so I can only fit so much - a 75lb chassis is unlikely
   to fit and I'm unlikely to be able to carry it!

   - I'll take the loot to my local FedEx office for packing *tomorrow*. If
   there are any specifics I'll instruct them to pack accordingly.

   - After I return with the list of items I hauled, please try to estimate
   the shipping costs so there aren't any surprises. I think the FedEx packing
   service will add ~$25 or so for medium-sized items.

Here we go

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Anders Nelson 
wrote:

> To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
> up and ship it for you!
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> A few more things
>>
>> HP 1650A logic analyser
>> A couple Nova core memory boards
>> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
>>
>>
>> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I
>> really have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to
>> keep production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone
>> local could pick it up that would be great
>>
>> Peter Wallace
>> Mesa Electronics
>>
>>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Josh Dersch via cctalk]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 05/24/2017 02:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> >
> > I'm surprised to see a swedish keyboard there :)
>
> And I thought it was important to include that keyboard, because
> somebody somewhere must be in a real jam if they need one...
>
>
> > What is a PCM-12 ?
>
> It appears to be a PDP-8 clone based on the Intersil 6100. I just now
> found this link to a better-preserved example:
>http://www.dvq.com/oldcomp/PCM12/
>
> I've put photos of the unit I picked up here (more link variations from
> Flickr):
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskX3uiy4
>
>
That looks like a cool little machine.  I'm kind of jealous :).  Hope you
can get it running again!

- Josh



>
> --S.
>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

To whomever wants that DECTalk, I live in San Francisco and could pick it
up and ship it for you!

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> A few more things
>
> HP 1650A logic analyser
> A couple Nova core memory boards
> lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc
>
>
> The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I really
> have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to keep
> production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone local
> could pick it up that would be great
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics
>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Peter C. Wallace via cctalk]

A few more things

HP 1650A logic analyser
A couple Nova core memory boards
lots of random connectors/cables/SMT parts etc


The Dectalk is still here, for people that expressed an interest, I really 
have no time to ship it as we are moving at the same time trying to keep 
production/testing/shipping going so its pretty hectic, so if someone local 
could pick it up that would be great


Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Anders Nelson via cctalk]

Heavens, why are the bit positions in descending order right to left in
that PCM-12?

I think I would quickly lose my mind.

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 05/24/2017 02:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> >
> > I'm surprised to see a swedish keyboard there :)
>
> And I thought it was important to include that keyboard, because
> somebody somewhere must be in a real jam if they need one...
>
>
> > What is a PCM-12 ?
>
> It appears to be a PDP-8 clone based on the Intersil 6100. I just now
> found this link to a better-preserved example:
>http://www.dvq.com/oldcomp/PCM12/
>
> I've put photos of the unit I picked up here (more link variations from
> Flickr):
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskX3uiy4
>
>
> --S.
>
>

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk]

I'm surprised to see a swedish keyboard there :)

What is a PCM-12 ?

And I think that Datability VCP-1000 can do LAT to TCP/IP  translation.

/P

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 01:24:37AM -0700, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote:
> >> Link to some photos I took:
> >> https://www.flickr.com/...
> > 
> > The link is 404 for me.
> > will look for the other post.
> 
> 
> Sigh. Looks like default permissions weren't "public", but Flickr/Yahoo
> is also suggesting this heretofore alien URL format:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/smj_crash/4bgzj2
> 
> 
> Seems to work, though it looks like it's just a redirect to a more
> common format...
> 
> YMMV,
> --S.
> 

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Steven M Jones via cctalk]

>> Link to some photos I took:
>> https://www.flickr.com/...
> 
> The link is 404 for me.
> will look for the other post.


Sigh. Looks like default permissions weren't "public", but Flickr/Yahoo
is also suggesting this heretofore alien URL format:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/smj_crash/4bgzj2


Seems to work, though it looks like it's just a redirect to a more
common format...

YMMV,
--S.

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Peter C. Wallace via cctalk]

On Tue, 23 May 2017, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:


Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 14:35:52 +0100 (BST)
From: Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Reply-To: Maciej W. Rozycki <ma...@linux-mips.org>,
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
To: "classic...@crash.com" <classic...@crash.com>,
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

On Sun, 21 May 2017, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote:


Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super
nice people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please
dig up that thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).

Link to some photos I took:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746

Again, location is Richmond, East SF Bay, California, USA, Earth, Sol
System, Perseus Arm, etc etc. Convenient to highways and spaceports alike!


Do you or anyone have their working contact information?  I sent Peter a
couple of e-mails over the last weeks, however I got no reply, so I wonder
if I got something wrong.

Thanks,

 Maciej




Sorry we have been very busy trying to get the last stuff done before we move 
to our new location, we have only about 8 days left here so its a rush now...




Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk]

On Sun, 21 May 2017, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote:

> Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super
> nice people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please
> dig up that thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).
> 
> Link to some photos I took:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746
> 
> Again, location is Richmond, East SF Bay, California, USA, Earth, Sol
> System, Perseus Arm, etc etc. Convenient to highways and spaceports alike!

 Do you or anyone have their working contact information?  I sent Peter a 
couple of e-mails over the last weeks, however I got no reply, so I wonder 
if I got something wrong.

 Thanks,

  Maciej

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[shadoooo via cctalk]

Hello,
I would really like the Dectalk, if somebody could ship it to me in Italy.
Anybody could help me with this?

Thanks
Andrea

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Rob Jarratt via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pontus
> Pihlgren via cctalk
> Sent: 22 May 2017 12:58
> To: classic...@crash.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA
> 
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 07:40:18PM -0700, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote:
> >
> > DECtalk DTC01
> 
> I've been looking for one of these for ages :) Someone should rescue it.
> 


I must have missed that, I want one of those too...

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk]

On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 07:40:18PM -0700, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote:
>
> DECtalk DTC01

I've been looking for one of these for ages :) Someone should rescue 
it.

/P

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Bill Gunshannon via cctalk]

Too bad I'm on the wrong coast.  I would love and RS68K or two.  :-(
Even a Decstation!!

bill


From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of classiccmp--- via 
cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:31 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

Regarding the thread started by Peter Wallace of Mesa Electronics the
other month - I've been by for one load, and there are still tons of DEC
and HP, and a few RS6k, workstations/servers. Including a rare DECserver
that has a TurboChannel Expansion box. Lots of HP 712 and 715
workstations, a C110, DECstations (MIPS) and VAXstations (derp).

Please note that the vintage calculators shown are spoken for. Sorry.

Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super
nice people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please
dig up that thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).

Link to some photos I took:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746

Again, location is Richmond, East SF Bay, California, USA, Earth, Sol
System, Perseus Arm, etc etc. Convenient to highways and spaceports alike!

Best,
--Steve.

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Rob Jarratt via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of classiccmp--
> - via cctalk
> Sent: 22 May 2017 03:32
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA
> 
> Regarding the thread started by Peter Wallace of Mesa Electronics the other
> month - I've been by for one load, and there are still tons of DEC and HP, 
> and a
> few RS6k, workstations/servers. Including a rare DECserver that has a
> TurboChannel Expansion box. Lots of HP 712 and 715 workstations, a C110,
> DECstations (MIPS) and VAXstations (derp).
> 
> Please note that the vintage calculators shown are spoken for. Sorry.
> 
> Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super nice
> people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please dig up that
> thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).
> 
> Link to some photos I took:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746
> 
> Again, location is Richmond, East SF Bay, California, USA, Earth, Sol System,
> Perseus Arm, etc etc. Convenient to highways and spaceports alike!
> 


I am hoping to get one of the MIPS shipped to the UK, unfortunately all the 
5000/260s had gone, but he still has some 240s, so I hope to get one of those.

Regards

Rob

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[Steven M Jones via cctalk]

Sorry, forgot - Alphas! Two DEC 3000 model 400, one DEC 3000 model 600,
one DEC 3000 model 600S, and an AlphaServer 600 IIRC.

VAXserver 3300
VAX 4000 model 300
DECtalk DTC01
numerous DEC BA42
DEC "leprechaun" boxes (think VAXstation 2000)

Mac 7200/90
5-10 color CRTs - VRT19, VR299, VR290
Couple smaller HP-badged Trinitrons

TEK 454
Summasketch 2 w/ cursor

Many cables, disks, other random bits!

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 5/21/2017 7:31 PM, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote:

Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super
nice people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please
dig up that thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).

Link to some photos I took:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746

Steve,
The link is 404 for me.
will look for the other post.
thanks
Jim

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[classiccmp--- via cctalk]

Sorry, forgot - Alphas! Two DEC 3000 model 400, one DEC 3000 model 600,
one DEC 3000 model 600S, and an AlphaServer 600 IIRC.

VAXserver 3300
VAX 4000 model 300
DECtalk DTC01
numerous DEC BA42
DEC "leprechaun" boxes (think VAXstation 2000)

Mac 7200/90
5-10 color CRTs - VRT19, VR299, VR290
Couple smaller HP-badged Trinitrons

TEK 454
Summasketch 2 w/ cursor

Many cables, disks, other random bits!

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

[classiccmp--- via cctalk]

Regarding the thread started by Peter Wallace of Mesa Electronics the
other month - I've been by for one load, and there are still tons of DEC
and HP, and a few RS6k, workstations/servers. Including a rare DECserver
that has a TurboChannel Expansion box. Lots of HP 712 and 715
workstations, a C110, DECstations (MIPS) and VAXstations (derp).

Please note that the vintage calculators shown are spoken for. Sorry.

Mesa has to vacate these offices by the end of the month. They're super
nice people, just trying to avoid anything involving a scrapper. Please
dig up that thread and have another look (sorry, traveling).

Link to some photos I took:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/smj_crash/albums/72157683795598746

Again, location is Richmond, East SF Bay, California, USA, Earth, Sol
System, Perseus Arm, etc etc. Convenient to highways and spaceports alike!

Best,
--Steve.