Re: Fwd: Stinky screwdrivers

2017-01-11 Thread Stefan Skoglund (lokal
sön 2017-01-08 klockan 21:17 -0800 skrev Chuck Guzis: 
> On 01/08/2017 08:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> > 
> > I sent this out to some friends at the end of December
> 
> I've got a few large (not the torque-handle thing) from the late 60's
> Xcelite nutdrivers.   They don't smell and they're in fine condition.
> 
> Must have been a formula change at some point.
> 
> Reminds of the issue with cellulose acetate-based film and tape.  Most
> conscientious people placed said objects in airtight storage containers,
> which apparently is exactly the thing *not* to do.  I'm not aware of any
> process to reverse the decomposition.
> 
> Old plastics in general are a nightmare for museum conservators.
> 
> --Chuck

Haa. Ask the conservators at Borås museum about clothes made from
synthetic materials. They end up having to throw away designer clothes
from 60's and 70's due to the fact that the materials disintegrates !
And nothing can really be done - no pesticides which can prevent
plastics from disintegrating.

Borås museum due to the town's history as a clothing industry cluster
(think New York's cloth industry but of course smaller) has a large
collection of clothing.



Re: Fwd: Stinky screwdrivers

2017-01-09 Thread Al Kossow
Exactly the problem with tool sets that are kept in sealed plastic containers.

BTW, you NEVER want to keep anything that outgasses/chemically decomposes in
a sealed container. Sealed PLASTIC containers are even worse.

Reminds me that I need to throw out the plastic latching-lid tool boxes that I 
have.

On 1/8/17 9:17 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:

> Reminds of the issue with cellulose acetate-based film and tape.  Most
> conscientious people placed said objects in airtight storage containers,
> which apparently is exactly the thing *not* to do.  I'm not aware of any
> process to reverse the decomposition.
> 



Re: Fwd: Stinky screwdrivers

2017-01-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/08/2017 08:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> 
> I sent this out to some friends at the end of December

I've got a few large (not the torque-handle thing) from the late 60's
Xcelite nutdrivers.   They don't smell and they're in fine condition.

Must have been a formula change at some point.

Reminds of the issue with cellulose acetate-based film and tape.  Most
conscientious people placed said objects in airtight storage containers,
which apparently is exactly the thing *not* to do.  I'm not aware of any
process to reverse the decomposition.

Old plastics in general are a nightmare for museum conservators.

--Chuck


Re: Fwd: Stinky screwdrivers

2017-01-08 Thread jim stephens



On 1/8/2017 8:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:

Sadly, it looks like the good USA made hand tools will all have their plastic 
handles crumble eventually
though I have two Craftsmen nut drivers I bought in 1975 that are still perfect.

How many perished in liquid N2 back in the day.  So sad.

thanks
jim