Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
in case anyone is interested...Actually the coupler does communicate with the GX007 but only optionally. The serial control simply loops through from the coupler to the GX unit and right to a serial terminal (my understanding from various docs I have gathered on the subject). The TX/RX lines just loop directly in and then back out of the GX to the DB25 serial port. I agree, however, that the length could easily exceed the specs for RS232. In fact I had expected this system to use some differential signalling like RS422/485 and was surprised that it did not seem to. The serial communication is actually optional. There are about 26 lines (4 power, 3 serial comm and about 19 others) used to either configure or report status. Personally I would prefer to use the serial control to avoid running 26 lines from the shack to the antenna site. Ultimately, this coupler only needs 26VDC @ 6A and nothing else. It will work totally automatically (when set to work that way). But it is nice to get temperature and other details from the status messages. http://w2hx.com/x/RohdeSchwarz/ebay%20pix/s-l500%20(7).jpg From: cctalk on behalf of Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 3:25 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port? On 08/10/2018 01:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x oversampling, which is quite common, but that information is not normally needed in a description of communication parameters. OK, Having read the manual on the antenna tuner and done some research I have found that there is a box that connects to the tuner and and a terminal. My guess is that "Asynchron 16" refers to some proprietary hardware/communications protocol used between the antenna tuner and the GX007 control unit. Considering the function of the unit, I expect the distance between the tuner and any terminal would have exceeded RS-232 and the environment could easily be too harsh for RS-232 as well (think static electricity and even lightening!!) An interesting device at any rate. Wish I had one. :-) bill
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
On 08/10/2018 01:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x oversampling, which is quite common, but that information is not normally needed in a description of communication parameters. OK, Having read the manual on the antenna tuner and done some research I have found that there is a box that connects to the tuner and and a terminal. My guess is that "Asynchron 16" refers to some proprietary hardware/communications protocol used between the antenna tuner and the GX007 control unit. Considering the function of the unit, I expect the distance between the tuner and any terminal would have exceeded RS-232 and the environment could easily be too harsh for RS-232 as well (think static electricity and even lightening!!) An interesting device at any rate. Wish I had one. :-) bill
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing > serial port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give > me the warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 > Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x oversampling, which is quite common, but that information is not normally needed in a description of communication parameters.
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
Did the freighter come with it or do you have to buy your own to use it? :-) bill On 08/10/2018 10:13 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > thanks everyone! > > From: Paul Koning > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:22 AM > To: W2HX; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port? > >> On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: >> >> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial >> port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the >> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: >> >> Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 >> Zeichenlänge: 7 bit (mit Sperrschritt) >> Parity: gerade >> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit >> >> Google says: >> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16 >> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step) >> Parity: straight >> Length of blocking step: 1 bit >> >> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but >> "16"?) >> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit? >> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even? >> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits? > Yes, stop bit, one bit long. Even parity.No idea about the 16. > > paul >
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
thanks everyone! From: Paul Koning Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:22 AM To: W2HX; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port? > On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 > Zeichenlänge: 7 bit (mit Sperrschritt) > Parity: gerade > Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit > > Google says: > Operating mode: Asynchronous 16 > Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step) > Parity: straight > Length of blocking step: 1 bit > > First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but > "16"?) > 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit? > Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even? > Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits? Yes, stop bit, one bit long. Even parity.No idea about the 16. paul
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 > Zeichenlänge: 7 bit (mit Sperrschritt) > Parity: gerade > Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit > > Google says: > Operating mode: Asynchronous 16 > Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step) > Parity: straight > Length of blocking step: 1 bit > > First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but > "16"?) > 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit? > Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even? > Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits? Yes, stop bit, one bit long. Even parity.No idea about the 16. paul
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
Sperrschritt is the stop bit, for the rest Google translate did quite well ;) Operations mode: Asynchronous 16 Character length: 7 bit (with stop bit) Parity: even stop bit length: 1 bit I have no idea what Asynchronous 16 could be, maybe a hint at the higher level protocol? On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 > Zeichenlänge: 7 bit (mit Sperrschritt) > Parity: gerade > Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit > > Google says: > Operating mode: Asynchronous 16 > Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step) > Parity: straight > Length of blocking step: 1 bit > > First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but > "16"?) > 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit? > Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even? > Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits? > > I am attempting to translate some pages in this manual and would like to > get this right (for others who may find this info useful). > > Thank you!!! (or should I say Danke?!) > > > 73 Eugene W2HX > PS. This is for an HF antenna coupler that can be controlled over a serial > port. > >
Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial > port parameters. I used google translate but it doesn't quite give me the > warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says: > > Betriebsart: Asynchron 16 > Zeichenlänge: 7 bit (mit Sperrschritt) > Parity: gerade > Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit > > Google says: > Operating mode: Asynchronous 16 > Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step) > Parity: straight > Length of blocking step: 1 bit > > First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but > "16"?) > 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit? > Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even? > Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits? > > I don't know what they mean by Asynchron 16 but the rest ins quite normal. For Parity "gerade" means even. "Sperrschritt" is Stop Bits. So you have: 7 bit even parity one stop bit. It's possible that the 16 refers to baud rate. Is there a table of any kind in the manual? Is it big? Could you provide a scan? bill KB3YV (formerly DA1WO)