Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 9/4/18 9:24 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 6:43 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk  > wrote:
> It would be nice to find more/better docs, esp docs on the EXORterm 150 
> or 155. The terminal has a keytronics kb .ca
> 1978, of course all the
> foam was crumbled.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a copy of the "EXORterm 155 Display Console User's Guide" 
> M68SXD155(D2), dated September 1981.  It appears to
> include schematics.  I can add this to my pile of Things To Scan.  Gave away 
> the terminal it came with a long time ago
> (had been basically destroyed by mice...)
> 
> - Josh
> 
> 

Josh sent it to me to scan.
The manual is up now under 
http://bitsavers.org/components/motorola/6800/EXORterm_155/



Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-04 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:

>
>
> On 9/4/18 10:52 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>
> > I have no documentation for it. If your Things To Scan pile it too
> > high I'd be willing to scan the manual.
> >
> > I should also dump the firmware EPROMs in mine if no one has done so.
> > Mine has the following present:
> > 51AW1018B22 U49 8432 EXTENDED DSPLAY
> > (U59 empty)
> > (U70 empty)
> > 51AW1018B24 U78 8432 TERMINAL CNTRL
> > 51AW1018B25 U89 8432 68K EDIT MODE
> > 51AW1018B26 U98 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #2
> > 51AW1018B27 U104 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #1
> > (U110 empty)
> >
>
> Josh Dersch has a manual that he's sending to be to scan
>
> Dumping the roms would be good. As soon as we know if they have normal
> pinouts (the ones in the EXORterm 150 needed to have the chip enables
> fiddled with
> Maybe Josh could check that before sending the manual to me.
>
>
>
Per the schematics, the ROMs are either MCM68A316E mask ROMs or 2716 EPROMs
(selectable by jumpers).  The jumpers appear to twiddle the chip enable
signals, so I'm guessing it's similar (if not identical) to the 150.

- Josh


Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-04 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
 wrote:
>
>
> On 9/4/18 10:52 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I have no documentation for it. If your Things To Scan pile it too
>> high I'd be willing to scan the manual.
>>
>> I should also dump the firmware EPROMs in mine if no one has done so.
>> Mine has the following present:
>> 51AW1018B22 U49 8432 EXTENDED DSPLAY
>> (U59 empty)
>> (U70 empty)
>> 51AW1018B24 U78 8432 TERMINAL CNTRL
>> 51AW1018B25 U89 8432 68K EDIT MODE
>> 51AW1018B26 U98 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #2
>> 51AW1018B27 U104 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #1
>> (U110 empty)
>>
>
> Josh Dersch has a manual that he's sending to be to scan
>
> Dumping the roms would be good. As soon as we know if they have normal
> pinouts (the ones in the EXORterm 150 needed to have the chip enables fiddled 
> with
> Maybe Josh could check that before sending the manual to me.

The part numbers on the devices in my EXORterm 155 that are not
obscured by the labels are Hitachi HN462716G EPROMs, not mask ROMs. If
they are all the same EPROM devices they shouldn't require anything
special to dump. I'll take a look today.


Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-04 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 9/4/18 10:52 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

> I have no documentation for it. If your Things To Scan pile it too
> high I'd be willing to scan the manual.
> 
> I should also dump the firmware EPROMs in mine if no one has done so.
> Mine has the following present:
> 51AW1018B22 U49 8432 EXTENDED DSPLAY
> (U59 empty)
> (U70 empty)
> 51AW1018B24 U78 8432 TERMINAL CNTRL
> 51AW1018B25 U89 8432 68K EDIT MODE
> 51AW1018B26 U98 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #2
> 51AW1018B27 U104 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #1
> (U110 empty)
> 

Josh Dersch has a manual that he's sending to be to scan

Dumping the roms would be good. As soon as we know if they have normal
pinouts (the ones in the EXORterm 150 needed to have the chip enables fiddled 
with
Maybe Josh could check that before sending the manual to me.




Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-04 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I have a copy of the "EXORterm 155 Display Console User's Guide"
> M68SXD155(D2), dated September 1981.  It appears to include schematics.  I
> can add this to my pile of Things To Scan.  Gave away the terminal it came
> with a long time ago (had been basically destroyed by mice...)
>

I have an EXORterm 155, the version that is just a terminal. It has a
solder pad footprint for an EXORbus expansion backplane which is not
populated. Screened on the PCB is: CRT CONTROLLER 84EW8054B01 REV A.

I have no documentation for it. If your Things To Scan pile it too
high I'd be willing to scan the manual.

I should also dump the firmware EPROMs in mine if no one has done so.
Mine has the following present:
51AW1018B22 U49 8432 EXTENDED DSPLAY
(U59 empty)
(U70 empty)
51AW1018B24 U78 8432 TERMINAL CNTRL
51AW1018B25 U89 8432 68K EDIT MODE
51AW1018B26 U98 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #2
51AW1018B27 U104 8432 BASIC DISPLAY #1
(U110 empty)


Re: ISO Moto Exorciser and EXORterm docs

2018-09-04 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 6:43 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk 
wrote:

> I spent some time this weekend documenting the hardware of these
> and dumping some more MDOS floppies.
>
> We had one copy of the MDOS manual which replaced the poor copy I
> had in bitsavers.org/components/motorola/6800/exorciser.
>
> It would be nice to find more/better docs, esp docs on the EXORterm 150 or
> 155. The terminal has a keytronics kb .ca 1978, of course all the
> foam was crumbled.
>


I have a copy of the "EXORterm 155 Display Console User's Guide"
M68SXD155(D2), dated September 1981.  It appears to include schematics.  I
can add this to my pile of Things To Scan.  Gave away the terminal it came
with a long time ago (had been basically destroyed by mice...)

- Josh