Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[dwight via cctalk]

The rarest 4004s are the grey trace with a black dot, instead of the gold dot 
for pin one.
I have two grey trace but with gold dot. I believe these are older than the 
grey trace with black dot.
Although, as originally sold, the 4004 was a Harvard architecture,  it could be 
made to be, easily, made to be a von Neumann machine with either a 4008/4009 
set or a 4289.
I don't know if that was ever done, other than for the Mod 4 development 
machine.
The 4004 had no interrupt but the later 4040 did.
Dwight



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On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, ED SHARPE wrote:
> The two contenders on tside leading g to the gold caphis question are
> white and Gold 4004. And. The white  and gold with leads showing through
> in the white material i

And now in English, please!

Christian

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[Christian Corti via cctalk]

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, ED SHARPE wrote:
The two contenders on tside leading g to the gold caphis question are 
white and Gold 4004. And. The white  and gold with leads showing through 
in the white material i


And now in English, please!

Christian

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[Trevor Marshall via cctalk]

 
The Intel 4004 was Harvard Architecture, as were the four bit microprocessors 
that came later. (TI's TMS-1000, National Semi's COPS, Rockwell's PPS4) Fine 
for a fixed program calculator or microcontroller, but the von Neumann 8 bit 
microprocessor IC's opened up vastly more advances in low cost computer 
hardware and software.
On Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 06:29:46 PM EST, ED SHARPE via cctalk 
 wrote:  
 
 The two contenders on tside leading g to the gold caphis question are white 
and Gold 4004. And. The white  and gold with leads showing through in the white 
material i

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  On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:11 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk 
wrote:  And agin people ask.  (Us included!)...  which processor is the true 
first... the all white and gold... or... the white and gold with leads showing 
thru...  Intel pictures  the leads show labeing through in  publicity stuff 
it does look better in a photo... some  Collectors  say the white and gold ( 
but it seems that is the one they personally own)..   we are fortunate to 
have been presented a white and gold this year. But unclear how to label the 
TRUE  chronology ...  we do have a black one  but we all know  that is a later 
one thanks for any insight.

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  On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Paul Koning via 
cctalk wrote:  The Wall St. Journal had a good essay 
about that, by Andy Kessler.  This link should get you there:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-chip-that-changed-the-world-microprocessor-computing-transistor-breakthrough-intel-11636903999?st=nm37ik74mq9vp51=desktopwebshare_permalink
 


The subtitle is "Most of the wealth created since 1971 is a result of Intel’s 
4004 microprocessor" which seems extravagant until you read his arguments.

I still remember the 4004-based personal computer a college classmate of mine 
designed and built in 1974.  It was a large (DEC Unibus hex module sized) wire 
wrap board with about 100 chips on it.  And it worked.  Slowly, but it could do 
useful programs.

    paul

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
> 
> Zane
> 
> 
> 

  
  
  

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

The two contenders on tside leading g to the gold caphis question are white and 
Gold 4004. And. The white  and gold with leads showing through in the white 
material i

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:11 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk 
wrote:   And agin people ask.  (Us included!)...  which processor is the true 
first... the all white and gold... or... the white and gold with leads showing 
thru...  Intel pictures  the leads show labeing through in  publicity stuff 
it does look better in a photo... some  Collectors  say the white and gold ( 
but it seems that is the one they personally own)..   we are fortunate to 
have been presented a white and gold this year. But unclear how to label the 
TRUE  chronology ...  we do have a black one  but we all know  that is a later 
one thanks for any insight.

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Paul Koning via 
cctalk wrote:  The Wall St. Journal had a good essay 
about that, by Andy Kessler.  This link should get you there:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-chip-that-changed-the-world-microprocessor-computing-transistor-breakthrough-intel-11636903999?st=nm37ik74mq9vp51=desktopwebshare_permalink
 


The subtitle is "Most of the wealth created since 1971 is a result of Intel’s 
4004 microprocessor" which seems extravagant until you read his arguments.

I still remember the 4004-based personal computer a college classmate of mine 
designed and built in 1974.  It was a large (DEC Unibus hex module sized) wire 
wrap board with about 100 chips on it.  And it worked.  Slowly, but it could do 
useful programs.

    paul

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
> 
> Zane
> 
> 
> 

  
  

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

And agin people ask.  (Us included!)...  which processor is the true first... 
the all white and gold... or... the white and gold with leads showing thru...  
Intel pictures  the leads show labeing through in  publicity stuff it does 
look better in a photo... some  Collectors  say the white and gold ( but it 
seems that is the one they personally own)..   we are fortunate to have 
been presented a white and gold this year. But unclear how to label the TRUE  
chronology ...  we do have a black one  but we all know  that is a later 
one thanks for any insight.

Sent from the all new AOL app for Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Paul Koning via 
cctalk wrote:   The Wall St. Journal had a good essay 
about that, by Andy Kessler.  This link should get you there:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-chip-that-changed-the-world-microprocessor-computing-transistor-breakthrough-intel-11636903999?st=nm37ik74mq9vp51=desktopwebshare_permalink
 


The subtitle is "Most of the wealth created since 1971 is a result of Intel’s 
4004 microprocessor" which seems extravagant until you read his arguments.

I still remember the 4004-based personal computer a college classmate of mine 
designed and built in 1974.  It was a large (DEC Unibus hex module sized) wire 
wrap board with about 100 chips on it.  And it worked.  Slowly, but it could do 
useful programs.

    paul

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
> 
> Zane
> 
> 
> 

  

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[Richard Cini via cctalk]

The WSJ had an article on it, but oddly, they left out the 8080/8085 from the 
timeline discussion.

On 11/16/21, 12:30 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Zane Healy via cctalk" 
 wrote:

It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.

Zane

Re: Intel 4004 turns 50

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

The Wall St. Journal had a good essay about that, by Andy Kessler.  This link 
should get you there:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-chip-that-changed-the-world-microprocessor-computing-transistor-breakthrough-intel-11636903999?st=nm37ik74mq9vp51=desktopwebshare_permalink
 


The subtitle is "Most of the wealth created since 1971 is a result of Intel’s 
4004 microprocessor" which seems extravagant until you read his arguments.

I still remember the 4004-based personal computer a college classmate of mine 
designed and built in 1974.  It was a large (DEC Unibus hex module sized) wire 
wrap board with about 100 chips on it.  And it worked.  Slowly, but it could do 
useful programs.

paul

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
> 
> Zane
> 
> 
>