Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[Ethan Dicks via cctalk]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk
 wrote:
> Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook up to the RL02.

Excellent.

> I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the connectors on the back of
> the RL02.  I have cabling stripped from a 11/04.
> Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on the RL02?

There should be.  You will need one.  RL02 cabling and terminators is
a frequent topic here.  The terminator is identical for the RL01/RL02
and RK06/RK07.  The round cables are not (one has all the pairs, one
has enough pairs for its controller but not the other, but the pairs
they have in common are identically placed).

> The
> machine that was stripped actually was a RL01, I hope the cable is the same
> and if not someone will be able to advise me on that.

There is no difference between RL01 and RL02 cabling and you can mix
them on the same controller at the same time.  I did this myself when
I owned an 11/23 w/RLV11 and an RL01 (borrowed from my PDP-8/a) and my
boss loaned me an RL02 that we used to transport data/code to/from the
customer site (our datafiles were over 5MB so I _needed_ an RL02 and
they were a couple of grand back then).

> Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?

Typically, the RL11 gets set for the primary CSR (I don't remember
without checking the docs how the vector is set), and unless you want
to put a second RL11 in the same machine (unusual), you pretty much
never change the jumpers.

> Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior to plugging it
> into the wall and powering it on?

Before first power-on?  Depends on how long it's been since it was
last powered up (PSU checkout and such).  The thing you'll want to do
before using it is to open the lid and check for the head lock before
mounting a pack and putting it online.  Do notice if all your
lightbulbs work.  I rarely use WRITE LOCK, so I borrow that bulb if
any of the others burn out.

Do wipe down the cartridge area with a lint-free wipe (I have a pack
of kimwipes I bought for such purposes) moistened with some IPA
(isopropanol / 1,2propanol)  Get any loose dust off the interior
surfaces.

-ethan

Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[william degnan via cctalk]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook up to the RL02.
>
> I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the connectors on the back
> of the RL02.  I have cabling stripped from a 11/04.
> Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on the RL02? The
> machine that was stripped actually was a RL01, I hope the cable is the same
> and if not someone will be able to advise me on that.
>
> Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?
>
> Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior to plugging it
> into the wall and powering it on?
>
> Sincerely,
> John Welch
>

Assuming you have a bridge adapter that goes between the flat cable and the
drive cable.  The bottom drive port should be terminated if you're not
connecting to a 2nd drive.  Here is how I learned what I needed:

http://www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rl-info.html

Bill

Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[william degnan via cctalk]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, william degnan 
wrote:

>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook up to the RL02.
>>
>> I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the connectors on the back
>> of the RL02.  I have cabling stripped from a 11/04.
>> Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on the RL02? The
>> machine that was stripped actually was a RL01, I hope the cable is the same
>> and if not someone will be able to advise me on that.
>>
>> Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?
>>
>> Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior to plugging it
>> into the wall and powering it on?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> John Welch
>>
>
> Assuming you have a bridge adapter that goes between the flat cable and
> the drive cable.  The bottom drive port should be terminated if you're not
> connecting to a 2nd drive.  Here is how I learned what I needed:
>
> http://www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rl-info.html
>
> Bill
>
>
The ROM part number should be 751A9, if you're using a 9312, that's the ROM
for the RL01/RL02. The command is DL0 or DL1.  If you use "DL" it assumes
drive 0.  You can boot off of any drive however.  You can install the ROM
in any slot.

Bill

Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[william degnan via cctalk]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:18 PM, william degnan 
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, william degnan 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook up to the
>>> RL02.
>>>
>>> I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the connectors on the
>>> back of the RL02.  I have cabling stripped from a 11/04.
>>> Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on the RL02? The
>>> machine that was stripped actually was a RL01, I hope the cable is the same
>>> and if not someone will be able to advise me on that.
>>>
>>> Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?
>>>
>>> Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior to plugging it
>>> into the wall and powering it on?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Welch
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you have a bridge adapter that goes between the flat cable and
>> the drive cable.  The bottom drive port should be terminated if you're not
>> connecting to a 2nd drive.  Here is how I learned what I needed:
>>
>> http://www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rl-info.html
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
> The ROM part number should be 751A9, if you're using a 9312, that's the
> ROM for the RL01/RL02. The command is DL0 or DL1.  If you use "DL" it
> assumes drive 0.  You can boot off of any drive however.  You can install
> the ROM in any slot.
>
> Bill
>
>
Sorry...any of the 4 bootstrap ROM sockets.  (not slot *banging head
against cabinet*)

b

Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[John Welch via cctalk]

Thanks!

I have everything ready to go. Except is the flat Berg cable keyed?  
The connector for the terminal had "AB" and "UUVV" marked.  This cable 
has a black strip on one side and it has "0" on the flat face on one end.



On 12/14/2017 1:20 PM, william degnan wrote:



On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:18 PM, william degnan > wrote:




On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, william degnan
mailto:billdeg...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:

Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook
up to the RL02.

I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the
connectors on the back of the RL02.  I have cabling
stripped from a 11/04.
Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on
the RL02? The machine that was stripped actually was a
RL01, I hope the cable is the same and if not someone will
be able to advise me on that.

Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?

Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior
to plugging it into the wall and powering it on?

Sincerely,
John Welch


Assuming you have a bridge adapter that goes between the flat
cable and the drive cable.  The bottom drive port should be
terminated if you're not connecting to a 2nd drive.  Here is
how I learned what I needed:

http://www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rl-info.html


Bill


The ROM part number should be 751A9, if you're using a 9312,
that's the ROM for the RL01/RL02. The command is DL0 or DL1.  If
you use "DL" it assumes drive 0.  You can boot off of any drive
however.  You can install the ROM in any slot.

Bill


Sorry...any of the 4 bootstrap ROM sockets.  (not slot *banging head 
against cabinet*)


b



--
Sincerely,
John Welch
281-353-4706 Home
713-725-7017 Cell
:qw

Re: RL02 hook up to 11/04

[Paul Anderson via cctalk]

If the flat cable from the controller is plunged in backwards, you will
just get a "fault" indicator on the drive to light up.

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:29 PM, John Welch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> I have everything ready to go. Except is the flat Berg cable keyed?
> The connector for the terminal had "AB" and "UUVV" marked.  This cable has
> a black strip on one side and it has "0" on the flat face on one end.
>
>
> On 12/14/2017 1:20 PM, william degnan wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:18 PM, william degnan > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, william degnan
>> mailto:billdeg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:59 AM, John Welch via cctalk
>> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Now that I have the 11/04 running the next step is to hook
>> up to the RL02.
>>
>> I need to run a cable from the M7762 to one of the
>> connectors on the back of the RL02.  I have cabling
>> stripped from a 11/04.
>> Is there a terminator that goes on the other connector on
>> the RL02? The machine that was stripped actually was a
>> RL01, I hope the cable is the same and if not someone will
>> be able to advise me on that.
>>
>> Do I need to set any jumpers on the M7762?
>>
>> Are there any other things I should do the the RL02 prior
>> to plugging it into the wall and powering it on?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> John Welch
>>
>>
>> Assuming you have a bridge adapter that goes between the flat
>> cable and the drive cable.  The bottom drive port should be
>> terminated if you're not connecting to a 2nd drive.  Here is
>> how I learned what I needed:
>>
>> http://www.pdp-11.nl/peripherals/disk/rl-info.html
>> 
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> The ROM part number should be 751A9, if you're using a 9312,
>> that's the ROM for the RL01/RL02. The command is DL0 or DL1.  If
>> you use "DL" it assumes drive 0.  You can boot off of any drive
>> however.  You can install the ROM in any slot.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Sorry...any of the 4 bootstrap ROM sockets.  (not slot *banging head
>> against cabinet*)
>>
>> b
>>
>>
> --
> Sincerely,
> John Welch
> 281-353-4706 Home
> 713-725-7017 Cell
> :qw
>
>