Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another
of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the
disposable "canned air" sprayers you get by the half dozen at Fry's or
Microcenter, complete with the plastic straw to direct the air. But this
one had a bicycle pump valve on the bottom so you could refill it as
needed.



Isn't that what Fred pointed to?



Almost, and that part overlaps.
I pointed to a refillable liquid sprayer. (we were talking about
spraying paint)
He's asking about a refillable air duster. (as opposed to the disposable
"Dust-Off" from Fry's, etc.)



On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

So this?

https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Aluminum-Pneumatic-Refillable-Compressed/dp/B00JKED4MS

Just be sure to use a dryer on your compressor output.  Compressed air
can hold a lot of moisture.


Close, but that also is still intended for spraying liquids.  The first 
Q&A asks, and people comment that for air, it won't hold enough ("5 
seconds")  It is a tiny size, with low pressure.


A scuba "buddy bottle"/"pony bottle" can be pressurized to 3000 psi, 
instead of just 90 - 150 psi.  Therefore, it needs a primary stage 
regulator, to get it down well below 150, and, as Chuck mentioned, a dryer 
if you don't want to spray a lot of water.


Pneumatic tools are typically run at 80 to 120 psi.
90 is the nominal standard, although many shops run at 125, or even 150, 
for higher torque, at the expense of reduced tool life and safety.
Your nozzle, for OSHA compliance, must be vented, so that when 
"dead-ended" blocking primary outlet, the pressure at the blocked end will 
be no more than 30psi.  A compliant vented nozzle will put out far more 
output pressure (when NOT dead-ended) on 90 psi, than a non-vented nozzle 
at only 30 psi.


For blowing dust, you do not want or need more than about 20 psi.  A hose 
from a spare tire can do.



--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread allison via cctalk
On 03/24/2019 02:39 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 3/24/19 11:32 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
>> So this?
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Aluminum-Pneumatic-Refillable-Compressed/dp/B00JKED4MS
>>
>> Just be sure to use a dryer on your compressor output.  Compressed air
>> can hold a lot of moisture.
> I'll also add that at 90 PSI, this won't hold much air for long--in the
> reviews, that's the major complaint.   Better is a small "pony tank"
> that can be charged and transported.
>
> --Chuck
>
 To spray paint well a drier and regulator as best pressures are down
around 20 to maybe 40psi.
With lower pressure the need for additional tank and all not required. 

I do a lot of work with an airbrush as its small volume and you can do
fine detail work very well.
Airbrushes also need lower volume of air so lower pressures require the
regulator.

Allison


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/24/19 11:32 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

> So this?
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Aluminum-Pneumatic-Refillable-Compressed/dp/B00JKED4MS
> 
> Just be sure to use a dryer on your compressor output.  Compressed air
> can hold a lot of moisture.

I'll also add that at 90 PSI, this won't hold much air for long--in the
reviews, that's the major complaint.   Better is a small "pony tank"
that can be charged and transported.

--Chuck



Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/24/19 10:43 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>>> Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another
>>> of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the
>>> disposable "canned air" sprayers you get by the half dozen at Fry's or
>>> Microcenter, complete with the plastic straw to direct the air. But this
>>> one had a bicycle pump valve on the bottom so you could refill it as
>>> needed.
> 
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> Isn't that what Fred pointed to?
> 
> Almost, and that part overlaps.
> I pointed to a refillable liquid sprayer. (we were talking about
> spraying paint)
> He's asking about a refillable air duster. (as opposed to the disposable
> "Dust-Off" from Fry's, etc.)

So this?

https://www.amazon.com/EWK-Aluminum-Pneumatic-Refillable-Compressed/dp/B00JKED4MS

Just be sure to use a dryer on your compressor output.  Compressed air
can hold a lot of moisture.


-Chuck



Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk

Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another
of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the
disposable "canned air" sprayers you get by the half dozen at Fry's or
Microcenter, complete with the plastic straw to direct the air. But this
one had a bicycle pump valve on the bottom so you could refill it as
needed.


On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

Isn't that what Fred pointed to?


Almost, and that part overlaps.
I pointed to a refillable liquid sprayer. (we were talking about spraying 
paint)
He's asking about a refillable air duster. (as opposed to the disposable 
"Dust-Off" from Fry's, etc.)


Long ago, I used a small air tank under the bench (a portable tire 
refiller), with a hose and a nozzle.

Similar to:
https://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html
but with a standard air tool coupler, instead of an inflator output.
Some people, for a "tire bottle", used a scuba tank, with a primary, but 
not secondary regulator.  Now, a bottle of nitrogen is often used.



For spraying tiny amounts of paint, is it possible to do an acceptable 
job?with:

https://www.harborfreight.com/34-and-3-oz-airbrush-kit-62294.html


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 3/24/19 2:34 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote:
>> Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even.
> 
>> How about a cheap airbrush kit?
> 
> Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another
> of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the
> disposable "canned air" sprayers you get by the half dozen at Fry's or
> Microcenter, complete with the plastic straw to direct the air. But this
> one had a bicycle pump valve on the bottom so you could refill it as
> needed.

Isn't that what Fred pointed to?

--Chuck



Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-24 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk

> Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even.

> How about a cheap airbrush kit?

Reminds me of something I picked up years back, and haven't seen another 
of - a rechargeable compressed air sprayer. Works more or less like the 
disposable "canned air" sprayers you get by the half dozen at Fry's or 
Microcenter, complete with the plastic straw to direct the air. But this 
one had a bicycle pump valve on the bottom so you could refill it as needed.


I've taken a superficial look or three over the years, but haven't found 
another. And I've mislaid the one from years back, so I don't have a 
brand or product name.


Anybody have a line on that sort of thing? Maybe what Fred linked will 
serve...


--S.


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-23 Thread Brian Roth via cctalk
 
Thought about that too. They have them at the local Harbor Freight as well.

>How about a cheap airbrush kit?
https://www.amazon.com/Testors-4030-Amazing-Airbrush-Set/dp/B0013MURE8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=testors+airbrush&qid=1553343199&s=gateway&sr=8-1
On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 7:14:44 AM CDT, Will Cooke via cctalk 
 wrote:  
 
 
> On March 23, 2019 at 7:50 AM Brian Roth via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even. I 
> found this. 
> https://duplicolor.com/product/perfect-match-premium-automotive-paint.
> Now I just need to match the color from a paint chip.
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:11 PM, Fred Cisin via 
>cctalk wrote: 
>https://www.amazon.com/Jacquard-YouCAN-Refillable-Powered-Spray/dp/B0748KZFQK/

How about a cheap airbrush kit?
https://www.amazon.com/Testors-4030-Amazing-Airbrush-Set/dp/B0013MURE8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=testors+airbrush&qid=1553343199&s=gateway&sr=8-1


"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."  -- Charlie Daniels
"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org 
 


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-23 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk


> On March 23, 2019 at 7:50 AM Brian Roth via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even. I 
> found this. 
> https://duplicolor.com/product/perfect-match-premium-automotive-paint.
> Now I just need to match the color from a paint chip.
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>  On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:11 PM, Fred Cisin via 
> cctalk wrote: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Jacquard-YouCAN-Refillable-Powered-Spray/dp/B0748KZFQK/

How about a cheap airbrush kit?
https://www.amazon.com/Testors-4030-Amazing-Airbrush-Set/dp/B0013MURE8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=testors+airbrush&qid=1553343199&s=gateway&sr=8-1


"He may look dumb but that's just a disguise."  -- Charlie Daniels
"The names of global variables should start with    // "  -- https://isocpp.org


Re: Refillable spray can

2019-03-23 Thread Brian Roth via cctalk
Looks like a great idea but the reviews say otherwise. Dangerous even. I found 
this. 
https://duplicolor.com/product/perfect-match-premium-automotive-paint.
Now I just need to match the color from a paint chip.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:11 PM, Fred Cisin via 
cctalk wrote:   
https://www.amazon.com/Jacquard-YouCAN-Refillable-Powered-Spray/dp/B0748KZFQK/