Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-15 Thread azd30 

Thanks for the patches / images Seth... 

I can verify that  SunOS 4.1.4 image from winworld, works - I have it installed 
 on my SparcStation20. The only thing that failed to extract/install properly 
was OpenWindows. Now, there were two images on the site, and I haven't tried 
the second image. 

cheers
--
alex

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, azd30 wrote:
> Thanks for the patches / images Seth... I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4 
> image from winworld, works - I have it installed on my SparcStation20. 
> The only thing that failed to extract/install properly was OpenWindows. 
> Now, there were two images on the site, and I haven't tried the second 
> image.

Thanks for reporting back! Now we know. 

-Swift

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Swift Griggs 
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Chris Hanson wrote:
> The closest I got was bringing up GCC 2.95.3 using the system compiler, 
> I couldn?t manage to build GCC 3.3 or 4.2.1 for SunOS. (For legal 
> reasons I can?t really go near GPLv3 developer tools.)

Last time I tried was around gcc v4.7 and it failed miserably with a bunch 
of linker errors. I have Sun's compiler on there, but it's not even C99 
compliant and that pisses off gcc something fierce these days. So, one 
would probably have to built it up stepwise, and maybe grab GNU binutils 
and see if their linker has any better luck. I ran out of steam and didn't 
try to go that far.  

-Swift

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Chris Hanson 
This all makes me want to try bringing up a modern compiler on SunOS 4.1.4 on 
my SPARCstation 20 again.

The closest I got was bringing up GCC 2.95.3 using the system compiler, I 
couldn’t manage to build GCC 3.3 or 4.2.1 for SunOS. (For legal reasons I can’t 
really go near GPLv3 developer tools.)

Maybe it’s a bit too much of a lost cause, and I should stick to Solaris 8. 
That’d let me install the upgraded CPUs too. And I could probably build 
LLVM/clang on Linux as sparcv8/sun4m cross-compiler much more easily too...

  -- Chris

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Bryan Everly 
Thanks all!

Thanks,
Bryan

> On Jun 9, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Eric Christopherson  
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Pete Plank  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Seth Morabito  wrote:
>>> If you have a Sun3, you can grab SunOS-4.1.3_U1B.iso.gz.
>>>
>>> -Seth
>>> --
>>> Seth Morabito
>>> s...@loomcom.com 
>>
>> There’s also a decent SunOS collection for Sun3/3x available on the
>> Sun3/3x archive at: https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml <
>> https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml>
>
> Thanks to both of you!
>
> --
>Eric Christopherson

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser 
> I don't suppose anyone will be too upset if I share my SunOS stuff
> on the web.
> 
> For now I've put it at:
> 
> http://www.loomcom.com/SunOS
> 
> You'll probably want SunOS-4.1.4.iso.gz, which should expand to
> about 380MB or so. Patches are under sunos_414_patches

Many thanks for putting the patches up, Seth. My OS/MP Solbourne thanks you.
I'm going to go through these and see what can cleanly apply to OS/MP, but
my thinking is that most of them should work.

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Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Pete Lancashire 
I guess now I'm going to have to add my prototype Sparc (no model number,
but looks like a 1) pizza box to the stack of machines to run again.

Thanks

-pete

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Eric Christopherson <
echristopher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Pete Plank  wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Seth Morabito  wrote:
> > > If you have a Sun3, you can grab SunOS-4.1.3_U1B.iso.gz.
> > >
> > > -Seth
> > > --
> > > Seth Morabito
> > > s...@loomcom.com 
> >
> > There’s also a decent SunOS collection for Sun3/3x available on the
> > Sun3/3x archive at: https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml <
> > https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml>
> >
>
> Thanks to both of you!
>
> --
> Eric Christopherson
>
>

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Eric Christopherson 
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Pete Plank  wrote:

>
> > On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Seth Morabito  wrote:
> > If you have a Sun3, you can grab SunOS-4.1.3_U1B.iso.gz.
> >
> > -Seth
> > --
> > Seth Morabito
> > s...@loomcom.com 
>
> There’s also a decent SunOS collection for Sun3/3x available on the
> Sun3/3x archive at: https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml <
> https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml>
>

Thanks to both of you!

-- 
Eric Christopherson

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-09 Thread Pete Plank 

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Seth Morabito  wrote:
> If you have a Sun3, you can grab SunOS-4.1.3_U1B.iso.gz.
> 
> -Seth
> -- 
> Seth Morabito
> s...@loomcom.com 

There’s also a decent SunOS collection for Sun3/3x available on the Sun3/3x 
archive at: https://www.sun3arc.org/BootTapes/index.phtml

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Seth Morabito 
* On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 10:32:09AM -0400, Bryan C. Everly 
 wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have really fond memories of this operating system (from before the
> SVR4 Solaris days).  It was the first UNIX I used (and I'm still a big
> BSD fan).
> 
> (Not sure what the protocol is here for asking something like this so
> if I run afoul of a copyright policy or something, just tell me to
> stop asking and I will.)
> 
> Is there any way someone can get their hands on an install disc for
> this?  I have some old SPARC hardware that it would be fun to run on
> if I could find the installer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan

Hi Bryan,

I don't suppose anyone will be too upset if I share my SunOS stuff
on the web.

For now I've put it at:

http://www.loomcom.com/SunOS

You'll probably want SunOS-4.1.4.iso.gz, which should expand to
about 380MB or so. Patches are under sunos_414_patches

If you have a Sun3, you can grab SunOS-4.1.3_U1B.iso.gz.

-Seth
-- 
Seth Morabito
s...@loomcom.com

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Eric Christopherson 
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
> >> > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
> >> > https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599
> >>
> >> Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the
> >> ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close:
> >>
> >> $ du -h *
> >> 315Msunos414_sparc_1994.iso
> >>
> >
> > The file is compressed, and since everything on the CD is basically
> > uncompressed tar archives, it compresses quite well.
> >
>
> Addendum:  "everything on the CD is basically uncompressed tar archives
> *and empty space*"
>
> - Josh
>
>
> >
> > It uncompresses to an  ISO of 329,297,920 bytes and the ISO contains what
> > looks like a valid installation.
> >
> > - Josh
>
>
Now if anyone can dig up the patches I'll be happy.

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Josh Dersch 
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Josh Dersch  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
>> > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
>> > https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599
>>
>> Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the
>> ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close:
>>
>> $ du -h *
>> 315Msunos414_sparc_1994.iso
>>
>
> The file is compressed, and since everything on the CD is basically
> uncompressed tar archives, it compresses quite well.
>

Addendum:  "everything on the CD is basically uncompressed tar archives
*and empty space*"

- Josh


>
> It uncompresses to an  ISO of 329,297,920 bytes and the ISO contains what
> looks like a valid installation.
>
> - Josh
>
>
>
>>
>> -Swift
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Josh Dersch 
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Swift Griggs  wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
> > SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
> > https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599
>
> Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the
> ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close:
>
> $ du -h *
> 315Msunos414_sparc_1994.iso
>

The file is compressed, and since everything on the CD is basically
uncompressed tar archives, it compresses quite well.

It uncompresses to an  ISO of 329,297,920 bytes and the ISO contains what
looks like a valid installation.

- Josh



>
> -Swift
>
>
>

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Swift Griggs 
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
> SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
> https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599

Methinks it's bogus. It's only 40.23MB in size on that site. I have the 
ISO on my file server at home and that's not even close:

$ du -h *
315Msunos414_sparc_1994.iso

-Swift

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread Plamen Mihaylov 
SunOS 4.1.4 sun4 iso image is available at
https://winworldpc.com/download/3E59C28A-18DA-11E4-99E5-7054D21A8599

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:08 PM, geneb  wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) wrote:
>
> tis 2016-06-07 klockan 10:55 -0700 skrev Chris Hanson:
>>
>>> I know MemoryX in Santa Clara has at least recently had full boxed
>>> copies of SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.3) available for something like $99.
>>>
>>> I'm unaware of whether Sun SPARC hardware carries a license for the OS
>>> with which it shipped. Some hardware companies did that, others bound the
>>> license to the media, still others bound it to a maintenance contract.
>>>
>>>   -- Chris
>>>
>>
>> SunOS : no trouble - historically "a machine" == "a license"
>>
>> No patches available now.
>>
>
> Check archive.org - ftp.sun.com may have been grabbed.
>
> g.
>
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Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-08 Thread geneb 

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) wrote:


tis 2016-06-07 klockan 10:55 -0700 skrev Chris Hanson:

I know MemoryX in Santa Clara has at least recently had full boxed copies of 
SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.3) available for something like $99.

I'm unaware of whether Sun SPARC hardware carries a license for the OS with 
which it shipped. Some hardware companies did that, others bound the license to 
the media, still others bound it to a maintenance contract.

  -- Chris


SunOS : no trouble - historically "a machine" == "a license"

No patches available now.


Check archive.org - ftp.sun.com may have been grabbed.

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-07 Thread Stefan Skoglund (lokal 
tis 2016-06-07 klockan 10:55 -0700 skrev Chris Hanson: 
> I know MemoryX in Santa Clara has at least recently had full boxed copies of 
> SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.3) available for something like $99.
> 
> I'm unaware of whether Sun SPARC hardware carries a license for the OS with 
> which it shipped. Some hardware companies did that, others bound the license 
> to the media, still others bound it to a maintenance contract.
> 
>   -- Chris

SunOS : no trouble - historically "a machine" == "a license"

No patches available now.

Re: SunOS 4

2016-06-07 Thread Chris Hanson 
I know MemoryX in Santa Clara has at least recently had full boxed copies of 
SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.3) available for something like $99.

I'm unaware of whether Sun SPARC hardware carries a license for the OS with 
which it shipped. Some hardware companies did that, others bound the license to 
the media, still others bound it to a maintenance contract.

  -- Chris

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:32 AM, Bryan C. Everly  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have really fond memories of this operating system (from before the
> SVR4 Solaris days).  It was the first UNIX I used (and I'm still a big
> BSD fan).
> 
> (Not sure what the protocol is here for asking something like this so
> if I run afoul of a copyright policy or something, just tell me to
> stop asking and I will.)
> 
> Is there any way someone can get their hands on an install disc for
> this?  I have some old SPARC hardware that it would be fun to run on
> if I could find the installer.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bryan