Re: SeaMonkey - Re: Usenet News Servers

[Liam Proven]

On 6 March 2016 at 21:33, Dave Wade  wrote:
> SeaMonkey is essentially the same code as in Thunderbird/Firefox. Personally
> I prefer to keep browser and mail/news separate. Pretty sure it will import
> from the old Netscape Communicator.


It appears that Jerome has killfiled me, as I have answered this
question for him at considerable length several times. Perhaps someone
would like to forward my old messages to him.

-- 
Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile
Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR)

Re: Usenet News Servers

[John Robertson]

On 03/06/2016 6:49 AM, Dave G4UGM wrote:

I think Thunderbird will allow import from the old Netscape mail client.

Dave


I access Giganews via Thunderbird (OSX) - works very well...

The downside is it costs about $8/month, but that is a very small 
business expense. Upside is Giganews goes back quite a ways...2003 for 
rec.humour.funny for example.


John :-#)#



-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jerome H.
Fine
Sent: 06 March 2016 14:27
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

Subject: Re: Usenet News Servers

  >On Saturday, March 5th, 2016 at 12:53:22 +, Robert Jarratt wrote:


My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.

What news servers do people round here recommend?


I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently available
browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently, I am using
Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows 10, I probably
won't find anything from Microsoft which will support reasonable access to
newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has an application that

supports

access to newsgroups in a manner similar to how Netscape 7.2 provides
access.  BEST would be a browser that also supports access to e-mail in

the

same manner as Netscape 7.2 and which also allows me to copy all of the
archived 100,000 e-mails and posts which I have acquired over the last 15
years.  It is only about 300 MB, so the size is not a factor.

I know someone will probably recall the same question a while ago, but the
answer given then was not sufficient to make the switch.  At least a link

to

the site which has the files to be downloaded would be needed since just
the name of the application does not seem to help me.




-

When I registered 8 years ago, I received the following reply copied

below.

There is no charge for the service.  I have found that about 99% of the

posts

which appear at eternal-september also appear at sunsite.  Mainly, I use
sunsite to check that I am receiving all the posts which have been made to
other servers in addition to having a second source just in case one of

the

servers has crashed or disappears.

The e-mail to sign up was sent to:
news-sig...@sunsite.dk

The other e-mail address that I used to inquire about an acceptable
newsgroup which was not yet carried (alt.sys.pdp11 -  but is now) was:
st...@sunsite.dk

The information should be sufficient to inquire and register.

Note that retention is short for some newsgroups, probably only a few days
while for others the retention can be over a year.  So checking the posts

on

at least a daily basis is recommended until you determine the retention
period.




--

Dear "e-mail address"

You have been registered at the dotsrc.org usenet server.

To be able to read and post articles, you will have to tell your news

client,

that it must perform authentication.

If you forget your username/password, then just register again.

There is no need to remove your registration - your registration will be
removed when it has not been used for 3 months.

More information can be found at:

   http://dotsrc.org/usenet/

Your username is: "e-mail address"
Your password is: "six character password"
Your newsserver is: news.sunsite.dk

IMPORTANT: October 15th 2005 a new access policy was introduced, in order
to make the main focus of the usenet service consistent with our remaining
policy and focus. For further info please see
http://dotsrc.org/usenet/accesschange/

Please remark, that the username and password is for your personal usage
only!

Upon any abuse, your account will be terminated immediately.

Best regards,
Dotsrc.org News Administrator
st...@dotsrc.org

RE: SeaMonkey - Re: Usenet News Servers

[Dave Wade]

SeaMonkey is essentially the same code as in Thunderbird/Firefox. Personally
I prefer to keep browser and mail/news separate. Pretty sure it will import
from the old Netscape Communicator. 

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jerome H.
> Fine
> Sent: 06 March 2016 16:07
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Re: SeaMonkey - Re: Usenet News Servers
> 
>  >Toby Thain wrote:
> 
> > >On 2016-03-06 9:27 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
> >
> >> I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently
> >> available browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently,
> >> I am using Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows
> >> 10, I probably won't find anything from Microsoft which will support
> >> reasonable access to newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has
> >> an application that supports access to newsgroups in a manner similar
> >> to how Netscape 7.2 provides access.  BEST would be a browser that
> >> also supports access to e-mail in the same manner as Netscape 7.2 and
> >> which also allows me to copy all of the archived 100,000 e-mails and
> >> posts which I have acquired over the last 15 years.  It is only about
> >> 300 MB, so the size is not a factor.
> >
> > Probably the closest thing (and actually a descendant) would be
> > SeaMonkey?
> > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
> 
> This link certainly looks like an excellent start.  Does SeaMonkey have
the
> ability to work under the 64-bit Windows 10 operating system?
> 
> Any idea as to how the 100,000 old e-mails and posts from newsgroups
> would be copied over?

Re: SeaMonkey - Re: Usenet News Servers

[Jerome H. Fine]

>Toby Thain wrote:


>On 2016-03-06 9:27 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:


I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently available
browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently, I am using
Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows 10,
I probably won't find anything from Microsoft which will support 
reasonable

access to newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has an
application that
supports access to newsgroups in a manner similar to how Netscape 7.2
provides access.  BEST would be a browser that also supports access
to e-mail in the same manner as Netscape 7.2 and which also allows me
to copy all of the archived 100,000 e-mails and posts which I have
acquired over the last 15 years.  It is only about 300 MB, so the size
is not a factor. 


Probably the closest thing (and actually a descendant) would be 
SeaMonkey?

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/


This link certainly looks like an excellent start.  Does SeaMonkey
have the ability to work under the 64-bit Windows 10 operating
system?

Any idea as to how the 100,000 old e-mails and posts from newsgroups
would be copied over?

SeaMonkey - Re: Usenet News Servers

[Toby Thain]

On 2016-03-06 9:27 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:

 >On Saturday, March 5th, 2016 at 12:53:22 +, Robert Jarratt wrote:


My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.

What news servers do people round here recommend?


I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently available
browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently, I am using
Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows 10,
I probably won't find anything from Microsoft which will support reasonable
access to newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has an
application that
supports access to newsgroups in a manner similar to how Netscape 7.2
provides access.  BEST would be a browser that also supports access
to e-mail in the same manner as Netscape 7.2 and which also allows me
to copy all of the archived 100,000 e-mails and posts which I have
acquired over the last 15 years.  It is only about 300 MB, so the size
is not a factor.


Probably the closest thing (and actually a descendant) would be SeaMonkey?
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

--Toby




I know someone will probably recall the same question a while ago, but
the answer given then was not sufficient to make the switch.  At least
a link to the site which has the files to be downloaded would be needed
since just the name of the application does not seem to help me.

-
...

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Dale H. Cook]

At 09:27 AM 3/6/2016, Jerome H. Fine wrote:

>I have a question about access to newsgroups.

I have never used a browser for Usenet - I have always used Forte Agent, a 
Usenet client:

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php 

RE: Usenet News Servers

[Dave G4UGM]

I think Thunderbird will allow import from the old Netscape mail client.

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jerome H.
> Fine
> Sent: 06 March 2016 14:27
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Re: Usenet News Servers
> 
>  >On Saturday, March 5th, 2016 at 12:53:22 +, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> 
> >My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.
> >
> >What news servers do people round here recommend?
> >
> I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently available
> browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently, I am using
> Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows 10, I probably
> won't find anything from Microsoft which will support reasonable access to
> newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has an application that
supports
> access to newsgroups in a manner similar to how Netscape 7.2 provides
> access.  BEST would be a browser that also supports access to e-mail in
the
> same manner as Netscape 7.2 and which also allows me to copy all of the
> archived 100,000 e-mails and posts which I have acquired over the last 15
> years.  It is only about 300 MB, so the size is not a factor.
> 
> I know someone will probably recall the same question a while ago, but the
> answer given then was not sufficient to make the switch.  At least a link
to
> the site which has the files to be downloaded would be needed since just
> the name of the application does not seem to help me.
> 
>

-
> 
> When I registered 8 years ago, I received the following reply copied
below.
> There is no charge for the service.  I have found that about 99% of the
posts
> which appear at eternal-september also appear at sunsite.  Mainly, I use
> sunsite to check that I am receiving all the posts which have been made to
> other servers in addition to having a second source just in case one of
the
> servers has crashed or disappears.
> 
> The e-mail to sign up was sent to:
> news-sig...@sunsite.dk
> 
> The other e-mail address that I used to inquire about an acceptable
> newsgroup which was not yet carried (alt.sys.pdp11 -  but is now) was:
> st...@sunsite.dk
> 
> The information should be sufficient to inquire and register.
> 
> Note that retention is short for some newsgroups, probably only a few days
> while for others the retention can be over a year.  So checking the posts
on
> at least a daily basis is recommended until you determine the retention
> period.
> 
>

--
> Dear "e-mail address"
> 
> You have been registered at the dotsrc.org usenet server.
> 
> To be able to read and post articles, you will have to tell your news
client,
> that it must perform authentication.
> 
> If you forget your username/password, then just register again.
> 
> There is no need to remove your registration - your registration will be
> removed when it has not been used for 3 months.
> 
> More information can be found at:
> 
>   http://dotsrc.org/usenet/
> 
> Your username is: "e-mail address"
> Your password is: "six character password"
> Your newsserver is: news.sunsite.dk
> 
> IMPORTANT: October 15th 2005 a new access policy was introduced, in order
> to make the main focus of the usenet service consistent with our remaining
> policy and focus. For further info please see
> http://dotsrc.org/usenet/accesschange/
> 
> Please remark, that the username and password is for your personal usage
> only!
> 
> Upon any abuse, your account will be terminated immediately.
> 
> Best regards,
> Dotsrc.org News Administrator
> st...@dotsrc.org
> 
> 

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Jerome H. Fine]

>On Saturday, March 5th, 2016 at 12:53:22 +, Robert Jarratt wrote:


My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.

What news servers do people round here recommend?


I have a question about access to newsgroups.  Which currently available
browser is able to access a newsgroups server?  Currently, I am using
Netscape 7.2 under Windows 98SE.  If I upgrade to Windows 10,
I probably won't find anything from Microsoft which will support reasonable
access to newsgroups.  Is there a link to a site which has an 
application that

supports access to newsgroups in a manner similar to how Netscape 7.2
provides access.  BEST would be a browser that also supports access
to e-mail in the same manner as Netscape 7.2 and which also allows me
to copy all of the archived 100,000 e-mails and posts which I have
acquired over the last 15 years.  It is only about 300 MB, so the size
is not a factor.

I know someone will probably recall the same question a while ago, but
the answer given then was not sufficient to make the switch.  At least
a link to the site which has the files to be downloaded would be needed
since just the name of the application does not seem to help me.

-

When I registered 8 years ago, I received the following reply copied below.
There is no charge for the service.  I have found that about 99% of the 
posts
which appear at eternal-september also appear at sunsite.  Mainly, I use 
sunsite
to check that I am receiving all the posts which have been made to other 
servers
in addition to having a second source just in case one of the servers 
has crashed

or disappears.

The e-mail to sign up was sent to:
news-sig...@sunsite.dk

The other e-mail address that I used to inquire about an acceptable 
newsgroup

which was not yet carried (alt.sys.pdp11 -  but is now) was:
st...@sunsite.dk

The information should be sufficient to inquire and register.

Note that retention is short for some newsgroups, probably only a few 
days while
for others the retention can be over a year.  So checking the posts on 
at least a

daily basis is recommended until you determine the retention period.

--
Dear "e-mail address"

You have been registered at the dotsrc.org usenet server.

To be able to read and post articles, you will have to tell your 
news client, that it must perform authentication. 


If you forget your username/password, then just register again.

There is no need to remove your registration - your registration
will be removed when it has not been used for 3 months.

More information can be found at:

 http://dotsrc.org/usenet/

Your username is: "e-mail address"
Your password is: "six character password"
Your newsserver is: news.sunsite.dk

IMPORTANT: October 15th 2005 a new access policy was introduced, 
in order to make the main focus of the usenet service consistent 
with our remaining policy and focus. For further info please see 
http://dotsrc.org/usenet/accesschange/  

Please remark, that the username and password is for your personal 
usage only!


Upon any abuse, your account will be terminated immediately.

Best regards,
Dotsrc.org News Administrator
st...@dotsrc.org

RE: Usenet News Servers

[Ali]

> My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.
> 
> 
> 
> What news servers do people round here recommend?
> 

Anybody using Astranews: http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html?

-Ali

RE: Usenet News Servers

[Robert Jarratt]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jason
> Howe
> Sent: 05 March 2016 14:33
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> 
> Subject: Re: Usenet News Servers
> 
> On 03/05/2016 04:53 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> > My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.
> >
> >
> >
> > What news servers do people round here recommend?
> >
> http://www.eternal-september.org/
> 
> Text only, no binaries.
> 


Thanks, this suggestion seems to work well for me.

Regards

Rob

Re: Usenet News Servers

[TeoZ]

When TWC dropped newsgroups here years ago I went with AGN.

http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

$2.95 a month for 25GB of downloads.

Highest Retention and Completion

•2,759 Days  Binary Retention
•4,635 Days  Text Retention
•99% +  Completion Rate
•100,000 +  Newsgroups

30 Blazing Fast Connections

•The most connections of any Usenet provider
•Recently upgraded servers provide blazing speeds
•Compressed headers up to 10 times faster


Free SSL Security

•State of the art 256-bit SSL encryption
•Maintain you privacy while downloading

Global Usenet Network

•Multiple data centers in both U.S. and Europe
•Dedicated servers for all major Internet providers


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Jarratt

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 7:53 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Usenet News Servers

My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.



What news servers do people round here recommend?



Thanks



Rob 



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Jon Elson]

On 03/05/2016 06:53 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote:

My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.

  


What news servers do people round here recommend?


I've been using GigaNews for some time, when my ISP dropped 
their news service.


Jon

Re: Usenet News Servers

[william degnan]

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:39 AM, jwsmobile  wrote:

>
>
> On 3/5/2016 7:27 AM, Mouse wrote:
>
>> What news servers do people round here recommend?

>>> http://www.eternal-september.org/
>>>
>> Am I the only one who finds it amusing (in a dark-humour kind of sense)
>> that someone asked after news servers and got pointed to a web server?
>>
> Not really.  The instructions for setting up NNTP access are posted
> there.  Used to be that there were emails sent out, or ftp sites with
> something similar to web pages that had such before the web page invention.
>
> I don't know that TWC my current provider had a News server since I moved
> to them.  Cox Cable killed off Usenet before 2003.  Prior to that it had
> been outsourced.
>
>
>> /~\ The ASCII Mouse
>> \ / Ribbon Campaign
>>   X  Against HTML   mo...@rodents-montreal.org
>> / \ Email!   7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39  4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
>>
>>
>>
>
This will be useful for my recent "revival of Windows 3.11 networking" PC
thing I have been into lately, thanks


-- 
@ BillDeg:
Web: vintagecomputer.net
Twitter: @billdeg 
Youtube: @billdeg 
Unauthorized Bio 

Re: Usenet News Servers

[jwsmobile]

On 3/5/2016 7:27 AM, Mouse wrote:

What news servers do people round here recommend?

http://www.eternal-september.org/

Am I the only one who finds it amusing (in a dark-humour kind of sense)
that someone asked after news servers and got pointed to a web server?
Not really.  The instructions for setting up NNTP access are posted 
there.  Used to be that there were emails sent out, or ftp sites with 
something similar to web pages that had such before the web page invention.


I don't know that TWC my current provider had a News server since I 
moved to them.  Cox Cable killed off Usenet before 2003.  Prior to that 
it had been outsourced.


/~\ The ASCII Mouse
\ / Ribbon Campaign
  X  Against HTML   mo...@rodents-montreal.org
/ \ Email!   7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39  4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Jason Howe]

On 03/05/2016 07:27 AM, Mouse wrote:

What news servers do people round here recommend?

http://www.eternal-september.org/

Am I the only one who finds it amusing (in a dark-humour kind of sense)
that someone asked after news servers and got pointed to a web server?

Oh believe me, the irony did not escape me as I sent it.

The web interface to the service, is however, the only place where you 
can register an account and get the required connection information.


--Jason

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Mouse]

>> What news servers do people round here recommend?
> http://www.eternal-september.org/

Am I the only one who finds it amusing (in a dark-humour kind of sense)
that someone asked after news servers and got pointed to a web server?

/~\ The ASCII Mouse
\ / Ribbon Campaign
 X  Against HTMLmo...@rodents-montreal.org
/ \ Email!   7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39  4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

Re: Usenet News Servers

[Jason Howe]

On 03/05/2016 04:53 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote:

My ISP appears to have stopped updating the newsgroups it hosts.

  


What news servers do people round here recommend?


http://www.eternal-september.org/

Text only, no binaries.

--Jason