Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-24 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk


> On Oct 24, 2018, at 4:07 PM, David Coolbear via cctech 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if any of these are still available for OpenVMS VAX?

Part of the problem will be licensing, I think that I have copies of VAX Lisp, 
but I don’t think that it’s included with the hobbyist PAKs.

Zane


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Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-24 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:07 PM David Coolbear via cctech
 wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if any of these are still available for OpenVMS VAX?

917AA VAX LISP/VMS [LISP030] or [LISP031] was on VMS Consolidated
Software Distribution CD sets from at least Jan-1990 to May-1993

I have [LISP031] that I must have gotten from a CD set that was
released in that time frame.


Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-24 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk


On Oct 24, 2018, at 4:07 PM, David Coolbear via cctech wrote:

> Does anyone know if any of these are still available for OpenVMS VAX?

I don't know what "available" means in this context. But:

VAX Lisp wasn't among the set of hobbyist licenses I got from HP last August. 
They did send me one when I asked, though.


ok
bear.

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until further notice



Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-25 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
How about NIL?  There are some bits and pieces from ITS backups, but I
don't know if there's enough to get it started, much less run a real
application like Macsyma.

Off on a tangent, I see T supports VAX and there was a T revival project
some time ago.


Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-25 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
If going for something non-VAX, Lisp is available on Multics.

I’m feeling a bit frustrated at the moment, I’ve run into an interesting issue 
with SecureCRT on iOS, and emacs on Multics.  The key for ‘ and “ works fine 
from the command line, but not from emacs.  I’ve verified this with both the on 
device “keyboard”, and a real Apple “Magic” keyboard.

Zane
 

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> On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> How about NIL?  There are some bits and pieces from ITS backups, but I
> don't know if there's enough to get it started, much less run a real
> application like Macsyma.
> 
> Off on a tangent, I see T supports VAX and there was a T revival project
> some time ago.



Re: VAX Lisp, Macsyma, Maxima

2018-10-27 Thread jim stephens via cctalk




On 10/24/2018 4:07 PM, David Coolbear via cctalk wrote:

Does anyone know if any of these are still available for OpenVMS VAX?

This was posted on the Multics thread in February.

Eric Swenson got the original-ish MACSYMA built and running in ITS.

It's frankensteined together from a mix of source and FASL files from
ITS, Lisp machine Macsyma sources, etc.


You might contact him.  Email me off list, and I'll forward his contact 
info if you can't contact him thru the
Multicians list.  I would imagine it's not for the faint hearted to get 
it going if you do not have experience with

Lisp.

I played with it quite a lot in 75 on the Multics system  It was like 
I'd discovered that Hal9000 was real, as everyone

probably  knows.

I have somewhere a complimentary copy from the people who licensed it 
and had a version for the x86.  I think
4 of the original people on the project worked for the company which did 
it, and they were very nice if your
were a real multician.  But that won't have any sources, just an install 
for the system you used it on.


It would be great for someone to do that if it worked and you can get it 
to run there.

thanks
Jim