Re: help id a chip

2018-01-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 01/18/2018 04:37 AM, william degnan via cctalk wrote:

P1010110 is an IBM SLT card out of a 360 or 1800 computer.

P1010112 is same thing from different angle.

Jon



Re: help id a chip

2018-01-18 Thread william degnan via cctalk
On Jan 18, 2018 4:13 AM, "Christian Corti via cctalk" 
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018, william degnan wrote:
>>
>> Not sure, I have a bunch of items that need to be investigated including
>> that one.
>> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/
>> b
>
>
> Well, two objects are obvious ;-)
>
> P1010070.JPG is the program drum for an IBM 29 card punch (and similar
models)
>
> P1010126.JPG is the clock generator module for an LGP-30
>
> Christian

I would never have guessed LGP-30.  Very much appreciated.  I am glad I
asked.
Bill


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-18 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk

On Wed, 17 Jan 2018, william degnan wrote:

Not sure, I have a bunch of items that need to be investigated including
that one.
http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/
b


Well, two objects are obvious ;-)

P1010070.JPG is the program drum for an IBM 29 card punch (and similar 
models)


P1010126.JPG is the clock generator module for an LGP-30

Christian


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Agreed; unfortunately an all too common story in the tech business world (see 
e.g. CBM, MCM etc.). Surprised HP survived Fiorina.

m

- Original Message - 
From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>
Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: help id a chip


> Welcome.
> 
> I miss my couple years at "Big B", great people to work with. Many of us
> though if this bozo
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Michael_Blumenthal
> 
> had not taken over Burroughs could still have made it.
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM, william degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Fantastic, thanks.
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech <
>> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Found it !!
>>>
>>> http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm
>>>
>>> 4th picture top row.
>>>
>>> Yikes that was long ago
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <
>>> p...@petelancashire.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in
>>> the
>>> > B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
>>> > there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
>>> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I
>>> *might*
>>> >> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
>>> >> information ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> m
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>>> >> To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion:
>>> >> On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Burroughs
>>> >> >
>>> >> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
>>> >> the
>>> >> > very rare test sockets.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
>>> >> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
>>> >> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -pete
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
>>> >> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins,
>>> as
>>> >> >> shown on the top of the chip.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> thanks
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Yes; I first saw that package used in Series L machines and the B80 was 
effectively an L9000 with disk drives.

m

- Original Message - 
  From: Pete Lancashire 
  To: Mike Stein ; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: help id a chip


  Found it !!


  http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm



  4th picture top row.


  Yikes that was long ago 


  -pete




  On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <p...@petelancashire.com> 
wrote:

OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the 
B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU







On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech 
<cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

  The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might* 
even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful information 
;-)

  m


  - Original Message -
  From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
  To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion: 
On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: help id a chip


  > Burroughs
  >
  > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
  >
  > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of 
the
  > very rare test sockets.
  >
  > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
  > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
  > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
  >
  > I
  >
  > -pete
  >
  > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
  > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
  >
  >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
  >>
  >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
  >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
  >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
  >>
  >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
  >>
  >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
  >> shown on the top of the chip.
  >>
  >> thanks
  >>
  >>







Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Welcome.

I miss my couple years at "Big B", great people to work with. Many of us
though if this bozo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Michael_Blumenthal

had not taken over Burroughs could still have made it.

-pete

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM, william degnan <billdeg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fantastic, thanks.
> Bill
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Found it !!
>>
>> http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm
>>
>> 4th picture top row.
>>
>> Yikes that was long ago
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <
>> p...@petelancashire.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in
>> the
>> > B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
>> > there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
>> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I
>> *might*
>> >> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
>> >> information ;-)
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> >> To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion:
>> >> On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Burroughs
>> >> >
>> >> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
>> >> the
>> >> > very rare test sockets.
>> >> >
>> >> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
>> >> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
>> >> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>> >> >
>> >> > I
>> >> >
>> >> > -pete
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
>> >> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins,
>> as
>> >> >> shown on the top of the chip.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread william degnan via cctalk
Fantastic, thanks.
Bill

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Found it !!
>
> http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm
>
> 4th picture top row.
>
> Yikes that was long ago
>
> -pete
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <p...@petelancashire.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in
> the
> > B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
> > there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I
> *might*
> >> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
> >> information ;-)
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> >> To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion:
> >> On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: help id a chip
> >>
> >>
> >> > Burroughs
> >> >
> >> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
> >> >
> >> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
> >> the
> >> > very rare test sockets.
> >> >
> >> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
> >> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
> >> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
> >> >
> >> > I
> >> >
> >> > -pete
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
> >> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
> >> >>
> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> >> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
> >> >>
> >> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
> >> >>
> >> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins,
> as
> >> >> shown on the top of the chip.
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Found it !!

http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm

4th picture top row.

Yikes that was long ago

-pete


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire <p...@petelancashire.com>
wrote:

> OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the
> B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
> there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might*
>> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
>> information ;-)
>>
>> m
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion:
>> On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>>
>>
>> > Burroughs
>> >
>> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>> >
>> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of
>> the
>> > very rare test sockets.
>> >
>> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
>> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
>> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>> >
>> > I
>> >
>> > -pete
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
>> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>> >>
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>> >>
>> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>> >>
>> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
>> >> shown on the top of the chip.
>> >>
>> >> thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the
B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family
there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU



On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might*
> even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful
> information ;-)
>
> m
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion:
> On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: help id a chip
>
>
> > Burroughs
> >
> > One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
> >
> > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
> > very rare test sockets.
> >
> > The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
> > remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
> > The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
> >
> > I
> >
> > -pete
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
> > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
> >>
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> >> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
> >>
> >> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
> >>
> >> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
> >> shown on the top of the chip.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
>
>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread william degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> What does it do? It's pretty.
>
> =]
>
>
Not sure, I have a bunch of items that need to be investigated including
that one.
http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/
b


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might* even 
be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful information ;-)

m

- Original Message - 
From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
To: "william degnan" <billdeg...@gmail.com>; "General Discussion: On-Topic 
Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: help id a chip


> Burroughs
> 
> One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
> 
> I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
> very rare test sockets.
> 
> The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
> remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
> The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
> 
> I
> 
> -pete
> 
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>>
>> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
>> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
>> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>>
>> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>>
>> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
>> shown on the top of the chip.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
What does it do? It's pretty.

=]

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Burroughs
>
> One has to love the 1/8" spacing.
>
> I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
> very rare test sockets.
>
> The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
> remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
> The plant I was in built the B7xx family.
>
> I
>
> -pete
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
> cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Can someone tell me what chip this is?
> >
> > http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> > http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> > http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
> >
> > (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
> >
> > the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
> > shown on the top of the chip.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
>


Re: help id a chip

2018-01-17 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Burroughs

One has to love the 1/8" spacing.

I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the
very rare test sockets.

The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't
remember what actually used them. Way too long ago.
The plant I was in built the B7xx family.

I

-pete

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:05 AM, william degnan via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Can someone tell me what chip this is?
>
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG
> http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG
>
> (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material)
>
> the underside consists of 4 sets of 12 pins plus the corner 3 pins, as
> shown on the top of the chip.
>
> thanks
>
>