RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Original Message Subject: RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit From: william degnan Date: Wed, December 14, 2016 5:01 am To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Ok, to me it looked like they did not. The description implies one should transplant them from wherever to the replacement pads. I will ask the seller. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net Do tell when you find out. If the metallic pads are already there, I'm probably in for a couple of sets :-) Steve
RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Think you're talking about this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair-Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards-/121266887970 I bought a couple to repair TRS-80 keyboards - well worth it in my view - save me lot of hassle. Kevin Parker -Original Message- From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william degnan Sent: Monday, 12 December 2016 09:17 To: cctech Subject: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key pads for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have gone through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. Thanks in advance. Bill
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Let us know, Bill. The description says no metallic pad and the last time I bought these from the seller they did not have them. If he added them, I might pick up a few sets. If enough of us bug him maybe he'll offer it as an upgrade. :) Pete > On Dec 14, 2016, at 6:01 AM, william degnan wrote: > > Ok, to me it looked like they did not. The description implies one should > transplant them from wherever to the replacement pads. I will ask the > seller. > > Bill Degnan > twitter: billdeg > vintagecomputer.net >> On Dec 14, 2016 5:13 AM, "Kevin Parker" wrote: >> >> These have metallic tops Bill - if you look closely you'll see some shiny >> bits - mine came with shiny tops >> >> >> >> Kevin Parker >> >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william >> degnan >> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 00:48 >> To: cctech >> Subject: Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit >> >> Upon closer inspection, these are pads only. I am looking for the pads >> with new metallic contacts attached, too. The metallic pads also decay and >> need to be replaced. I have been able to re-use some but they're never >> 100% good. The surface gets coated with something that causes them to >> loose the desired properties and cleaning does not always help. I have a >> punch to create my own pads, and I *could* make metallic pads from a space >> blanket or similar but I was hoping to find pre-made-ready-to-use >> replacement pads instead. I could use 4 sets. >> >> Bill >> >> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51 AM, william degnan >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. >>> >>> Bill Degnan >>> twitter: billdeg >>> vintagecomputer.net >>>> On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard >>>>> key >>>> pads >>>>> for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I >>>>> have >>>> gone >>>>> through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a >>>>> few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> Bill >>>> >>>> He’s still out there >>>> >>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair >>>> -Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970 >>> >>> >> >>
RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Ok, to me it looked like they did not. The description implies one should transplant them from wherever to the replacement pads. I will ask the seller. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net On Dec 14, 2016 5:13 AM, "Kevin Parker" wrote: > These have metallic tops Bill - if you look closely you'll see some shiny > bits - mine came with shiny tops > > > > Kevin Parker > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william > degnan > Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 00:48 > To: cctech > Subject: Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit > > Upon closer inspection, these are pads only. I am looking for the pads > with new metallic contacts attached, too. The metallic pads also decay and > need to be replaced. I have been able to re-use some but they're never > 100% good. The surface gets coated with something that causes them to > loose the desired properties and cleaning does not always help. I have a > punch to create my own pads, and I *could* make metallic pads from a space > blanket or similar but I was hoping to find pre-made-ready-to-use > replacement pads instead. I could use 4 sets. > > Bill > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51 AM, william degnan > wrote: > > > Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. > > > > Bill Degnan > > twitter: billdeg > > vintagecomputer.net > > On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: > > > >> > >> > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard > >> > key > >> pads > >> > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I > >> > have > >> gone > >> > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a > >> > few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. > >> > Thanks in advance. > >> > Bill > >> > >> He’s still out there > >> > >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair > >> -Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970 > > > > > >
RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
These have metallic tops Bill - if you look closely you'll see some shiny bits - mine came with shiny tops Kevin Parker -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william degnan Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2016 00:48 To: cctech Subject: Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit Upon closer inspection, these are pads only. I am looking for the pads with new metallic contacts attached, too. The metallic pads also decay and need to be replaced. I have been able to re-use some but they're never 100% good. The surface gets coated with something that causes them to loose the desired properties and cleaning does not always help. I have a punch to create my own pads, and I *could* make metallic pads from a space blanket or similar but I was hoping to find pre-made-ready-to-use replacement pads instead. I could use 4 sets. Bill On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51 AM, william degnan wrote: > Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. > > Bill Degnan > twitter: billdeg > vintagecomputer.net > On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: > >> >> > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan >> wrote: >> > >> > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard >> > key >> pads >> > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I >> > have >> gone >> > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a >> > few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. >> > Thanks in advance. >> > Bill >> >> He’s still out there >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair >> -Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970 > >
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > > I haven't had the greatest success with the Mylar blankets on my Tandy > 6000 keyboards... > > I've heard of people using mylar balloons or mylar potato chip bags. > I'm sure there are some analog effects that come into play and perhaps > one type won't work for all. > > -ethan > All true but I was asking in my original post if anyone knew of anyone who makes the finished product, with the mylar or similar contact disk adhered to the foam pad, new. I have made these, but I was thinking why buy a blanket and make little disks etc. if someone else sells these replacement pads ready to go, already. Thanks Bill
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > I haven't had the greatest success with the Mylar blankets on my Tandy 6000 > keyboards... I've heard of people using mylar balloons or mylar potato chip bags. I'm sure there are some analog effects that come into play and perhaps one type won't work for all. -ethan
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
I've had good luck with Apple Lisa's, Processor Technology Sol-20s, Dynalogic Hyperions and a TRS-80 model II keyboard. I make my own with weather stripping (sticky on one side), two sided tape and silver gift wrapping (mylar). I would re-use the original plastic disk (after cleaning them up) or I cut out overhead projector transparancies if I had to. It is a chore but I made hundreds once and am almost out now. Here's a pic: http://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/keyboard-foam-pads.jpg On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > I haven't had the greatest success with the Mylar blankets on my Tandy > 6000 keyboards. Some of the keys would act flaky and result in garbage > characters on the screen. I had to replace those problematic keys with > original discs. But, I rebuilt a Model II keyboard where the blanket discs > work fine. I think the properties of those keytronic discs are slightly > different. > > Pete > > > On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Kyle Owen wrote: > > > > If it's not too much trouble, emergency blankets (aluminized mylar, I > > believe) work well for these keyboards, so long as you get them in the > > right direction, mylar side towards the keyboard. Seems like you could > buy > > those, then stick them on the mylar and quickly cut them out. > > > > Kyle >
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
I haven't had the greatest success with the Mylar blankets on my Tandy 6000 keyboards. Some of the keys would act flaky and result in garbage characters on the screen. I had to replace those problematic keys with original discs. But, I rebuilt a Model II keyboard where the blanket discs work fine. I think the properties of those keytronic discs are slightly different. Pete > On Dec 12, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Kyle Owen wrote: > > If it's not too much trouble, emergency blankets (aluminized mylar, I > believe) work well for these keyboards, so long as you get them in the > right direction, mylar side towards the keyboard. Seems like you could buy > those, then stick them on the mylar and quickly cut them out. > > Kyle
RE: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Did you ask on vcfed forums? I do recall a few years ago one or two folks offering to make sets although being years ago you may have been one of them :-) Original message From: william degnan Date: 12/11/16 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctech Subject: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key pads for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have gone through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. Thanks in advance. Bill
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
If it's not too much trouble, emergency blankets (aluminized mylar, I believe) work well for these keyboards, so long as you get them in the right direction, mylar side towards the keyboard. Seems like you could buy those, then stick them on the mylar and quickly cut them out. Kyle
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
One other thingmy use of the term "pad"...There is the metallic disk "pad" that goes on top of the foam pad. I should have said metallic disk when referring to the contact that sits on top of the foam pad. b On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:47 AM, william degnan wrote: > Upon closer inspection, these are pads only. I am looking for the pads > with new metallic contacts attached, too. The metallic pads also decay and > need to be replaced. I have been able to re-use some but they're never > 100% good. The surface gets coated with something that causes them to > loose the desired properties and cleaning does not always help. I have a > punch to create my own pads, and I *could* make metallic pads from a space > blanket or similar but I was hoping to find pre-made-ready-to-use > replacement pads instead. I could use 4 sets. > > Bill > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51 AM, william degnan > wrote: > >> Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. >> >> Bill Degnan >> twitter: billdeg >> vintagecomputer.net >> On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: >> >>> >>> > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key >>> pads >>> > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have >>> gone >>> > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few >>> > keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. >>> > Thanks in advance. >>> > Bill >>> >>> He’s still out there >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair >>> -Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970 >> >> >
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Upon closer inspection, these are pads only. I am looking for the pads with new metallic contacts attached, too. The metallic pads also decay and need to be replaced. I have been able to re-use some but they're never 100% good. The surface gets coated with something that causes them to loose the desired properties and cleaning does not always help. I have a punch to create my own pads, and I *could* make metallic pads from a space blanket or similar but I was hoping to find pre-made-ready-to-use replacement pads instead. I could use 4 sets. Bill On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51 AM, william degnan wrote: > Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. > > Bill Degnan > twitter: billdeg > vintagecomputer.net > On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: > >> >> > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan >> wrote: >> > >> > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key >> pads >> > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have >> gone >> > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few >> > keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. >> > Thanks in advance. >> > Bill >> >> He’s still out there >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair >> -Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970 > >
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
Thanks. I was searching with the wrong terms. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net On Dec 12, 2016 1:19 AM, "Peter Cetinski" wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan > wrote: > > > > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key > pads > > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have > gone > > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few > > keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bill > > He’s still out there > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard- > repair-Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970
looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key pads for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have gone through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. Thanks in advance. Bill
Re: looking for keytronics keyboard pad replacement kit
> On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:17 PM, william degnan wrote: > > There was a seller on ebay who had a set of the pre-made keyboard key pads > for sale...anyone here selling these? Yes I could make my own, I have gone > through the process, but I'd like to buy a set or two as I have a few > keyboards to repair. it's a time consuming process. > Thanks in advance. > Bill He’s still out there http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-9000-SIRIUS-1-Keyboard-repair-Foam-Pads-for-KeyTronic-Keyboards/121266887970
