Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> >> Plase name the Pioneer model number... > > How can I can get it? > > Via google search for example. It's the same as the A06. Yes, seems that is A06. Anybody tried to flash it with a Pioneer firmware? Thanks! > > regards > Markus > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Catalin(ux) BOIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> If you can"t, describe the features in less than 100 characters. :) DVD-ROM (single and dual layer), DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, DVD-R (Vers 2.00), DVD-RW (Ver 1.0 + 1.1), DVD+R (Ver 1.0 + 1.1), DVD+RW (Ver 1.2), DVD-RAM DVD-R: DAO, Incremental recording, multi-border recording DVD-RW: Restricted overwriting DVD+R: Incremental recording DVD+RW: Random recording Thanks! > > Jörg > > -- > EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) chars I am J"org Schilling > URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > --- Catalin(ux) BOIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> With DVD+RW there is a bug in the firmware that causes a quick format not > to work as expected. You need to wait a long time after you formatted a > media for the first time The wait is 2:45min instead of the expected 0:45min, and only the first time ever the media is used. Who cares... > and then use cdrecord -force to write ignoring > the visible media size. Good tip for cdrecord. Not required with growisofs. > With DVD+R, it may be that there is the same finalizing problem as with > the Plextor 708 I burn DVD+R on a Pioneer 106 with growisofs -dvd-compat with no such problems. I still have the older firmware 1.05 (and no reason to upgrade). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
>From: Sergio Visinoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program >> with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need hel= >p, >> you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. >I agree that if you're not the autor he should ask for support to the >person "responsible" for this fork. >But (and this is the second time I ask you about this, the first time >you ignored me and I hope you just didn't notice me) can you explain me >how is dvdrtools violating GPL? how is it illegal? >As far as I know GPL allows you to redistribute GPL code as long as >you keep it GPL. AFAIK again dvdrtool is distributed as GPL. >now: where is the so called violation? Well, this is the last time, I did explain this so many times before you should read the archives... This program is full of bugs and it does not even mention that the program may have bugs not present in the original distribution. He also needs to mention that this is not the original program and no support requests should be directoed to the original author. This person (Mr. Rosenkranzer) is a really bad buy, he did not put own effort into the 'project', he uses a broken make system so it ony works on Linux x86, . there are a lot of bad tings to tell about this program, go and google for more. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> With DVD+RW there is a bug in the firmware that causes a quick format not > to work as expected. You need to wait a long time after you formatted a > media for the first time The wait is 2:45min instead of the expected 0:45min, and only the first time ever the media is used. Who cares... > and then use cdrecord -force to write ignoring > the visible media size. Good tip for cdrecord. Not required with growisofs. > With DVD+R, it may be that there is the same finalizing problem as with > the Plextor 708 I burn DVD+R on a Pioneer 106 with growisofs -dvd-compat with no such problems. I still have the older firmware 1.05 (and no reason to upgrade). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
>From: Sergio Visinoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program >> with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need hel= >p, >> you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. >I agree that if you're not the autor he should ask for support to the >person "responsible" for this fork. >But (and this is the second time I ask you about this, the first time >you ignored me and I hope you just didn't notice me) can you explain me >how is dvdrtools violating GPL? how is it illegal? >As far as I know GPL allows you to redistribute GPL code as long as >you keep it GPL. AFAIK again dvdrtool is distributed as GPL. >now: where is the so called violation? Well, this is the last time, I did explain this so many times before you should read the archives... This program is full of bugs and it does not even mention that the program may have bugs not present in the original distribution. He also needs to mention that this is not the original program and no support requests should be directoed to the original author. This person (Mr. Rosenkranzer) is a really bad buy, he did not put own effort into the 'project', he uses a broken make system so it ony works on Linux x86, . there are a lot of bad tings to tell about this program, go and google for more. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >From: Ole Jacob Taraldset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I'm trying to get my LG GSA-4040B attached to a RedHat 8 box burn a iso > >doing > >"dvdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 -dao -dummy /iso/shrike-i386-disc1.iso", but nothing ^^ Joerg, I thought you knew the meaning of this command line agument. I'm reasonably sure about it ;-) > > Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program > with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need help, > you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. I agree that if you're not the autor he should ask for support to the person "responsible" for this fork. But (and this is the second time I ask you about this, the first time you ignored me and I hope you just didn't notice me) can you explain me how is dvdrtools violating GPL? how is it illegal? As far as I know GPL allows you to redistribute GPL code as long as you keep it GPL. AFAIK again dvdrtool is distributed as GPL. now: where is the so called violation? thanks for answering my questions this time, sergio pgpnbOtWMohKa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DVD+/-R writers
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Going by my own observation and not what someone tells me, it seems random >> >access write to DVD+RW is rather easier than to DVD-RW. I don't have to >> >blank the disk, and it still works at 0.1x speed. Andy's DVD+RW kernel patch >> >isn't meant for DVD-RW - could this be because DVD-RW doesn't allow >> >something? >> >> DVD+ _only_ works in some kind of packet mode. You need to format a DVD+RW >> before you may use it. >This is exactly what one could call "FUD tactic." So DVD+ recording >strategies are different from DVD- ones, so what? The fact that some >applications, cdrecord-ProDVD among them, required major modifications >to adopt DVD+ recording strategies doesn't speak against format or >products. It's the outcome, recorded media, that counts! Are you talking about your tactic to hide the fact that neither DVD+R nor DVD+RW support SAO recording? The best recording quality and readability is caused by writing in SAO mode. DVD+R usually does not know the size of the medium when it starts writing and therefore writes the TOC after the data. With DVD-R and DVD-RW and cdrecord you write in SAO mode which causes the TOC to be written first and the data to be written later without the need to reposition the laser. >Bottom line. We have discussed things DVD- has to offer, DVD+ doesn't. What das DVD- to offer? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: DVD+/-R writers
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >As for DVD-RW on the other hand. If *minimally* formatted for Restricted >Overwrite, DVD-RW still can be recorded only *sequentially*. This makes >it virtually impossible to use *minimally* formatted DVD-RW media for >housing of live read-write file system. Only once fully formated (which >takes 1 hour for 1x media), DVD-RW permits for random write, but with >32KB granularity. Latter means that you either have to have special >kernel driver which would arrange for 32KB granularity or modify file >system code to do same thing. Now note that no work (at least no visible >outcome so far) has been done to accomplish either of these two >alternatives under Linux (or any other Unix implementation), [presumaly] >because it's damn hard. A. So DVD+RW drives do things in firmware what you need to do in the kernel if you like to have 2k granularity with DVD-RW. But this is nothing a new firmware could not support. Note that the kernel also first reads a 512 byte sector from a hard disk if you like to write only 64 bytes. AFAIK, DVD+RW also use the basic DVD physical sector size of 32k. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From: Markus Plail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >>> >Do you know any problems with this drive? >I think Pioneer's and thus (most of) Teacs DVD writers are fairly well >supported. I have the A05 clone from Teac (DV-W50E) and it works just >fine. >>> Plase name the Pioneer model number... >> How can I can get it? >Via google search for example. It's the same as the A06. Back to the original question: The A06 works great with DVD-R and DVD-RW. With DVD+RW there is a bug in the firmware that causes a quick format not to work as expected. You need to wait a long time after you formatted a media for the first time and then use cdrecord -force to write ignoring the visible media size. With DVD+R, it may be that there is the same finalizing problem as with the Plextor 708 Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 27 15:27:57 2003 >> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >> >Do you know any problems with this drive? >> >Thanks, Joerg! >> Plase name the Pioneer model number... >How can I can get it? If you can"t, describe the features in less than 100 characters. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made by >> Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. >Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session >command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in >question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. >Latter alone means that FF became ambiguous at least in DVD- context, >which is why special meaning was removed. So that formally speaking it's >Ricoh which doesn't follow standard, as expecting MMC-3 unit to treat FF >specially is not exactly appropriate. Vendors are free to treat FF >specially in CD-R[W] context, for backward compatibility with old *CD* >recording software, but formally you can't *count* on that. A. Thank you for this hint, I thought the SCSI standard commitee was following SCSI standards:-( I already heard that the problem occurs when I try to finalize track 0xff but I thought that the SCSI committee was so clever not to make never releases contradict older versions of the standard. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
PXUpdate / PX-708A
For all who might be interested, Today, I received the needed information to add Support for the 708 to the firmware upgrade tool. But even if I would immediaely create a new version you would need to wait until Plextor supplies us with plain vanilla firmware that is not hidden inside a DOS executable. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >From: Ole Jacob Taraldset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I'm trying to get my LG GSA-4040B attached to a RedHat 8 box burn a iso doing > >"dvdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 -dao -dummy /iso/shrike-i386-disc1.iso", but nothing ^^ Joerg, I thought you knew the meaning of this command line agument. I'm reasonably sure about it ;-) > > Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program > with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need help, > you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. I agree that if you're not the autor he should ask for support to the person "responsible" for this fork. But (and this is the second time I ask you about this, the first time you ignored me and I hope you just didn't notice me) can you explain me how is dvdrtools violating GPL? how is it illegal? As far as I know GPL allows you to redistribute GPL code as long as you keep it GPL. AFAIK again dvdrtool is distributed as GPL. now: where is the so called violation? thanks for answering my questions this time, sergio pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From: Catalin BOIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >Do you know any problems with this drive? Plase name the Pioneer model number... TEAC uses simular names for different drives so it is hard to help. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
>From: Ole Jacob Taraldset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I'm trying to get my LG GSA-4040B attached to a RedHat 8 box burn a iso doing >"dvdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 -dao -dummy /iso/shrike-i386-disc1.iso", but nothing >is written and I'm note sure what the error is. The disk is a DVD-R. >-Ole Jacob >dvdrtools v0.1.3 >Portions (c) 2002 Red Hat, Inc. >Based on: >Cdrecord 1.11a15 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling >TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM >scsidev: '0,0,0' >scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 >Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 >Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' >atapi: 1 >Device type: Removable CD-ROM >Version: 0 >Response Format: 2 >Capabilities : >Vendor_info: 'HL-DT-ST' >Identifikation : 'DVDRAM GSA-4040B' >Revision : 'A104' >Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD. >Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd). Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need help, you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. I don't believe that you will get help from him as he did never put own effort into this program. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: Plextor-Linux-DMA-problems (was cdrtools-2.01a19 - strange errors)
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 12:55:59 2003 >> His problems are caused by the fact that he did not read README.verify >> and README.copy. >> >Probably it isn't cdrecord's fault since a >readcd -c2scan >shows a perfect CD. >Now I have disabled DMA for the Plextor drive and now these errors >have gone. So it must be related to Plextor+Linux+DMA . >On my private PC at home (a newer Plextor 48x) I cannot access >the drive at all when DMA is enabled (even a simple 'mount' of an >ISO filesystem hangs) and the kernel log tells about a DMA timeout >error. (The kernel is a recent 2.4.23-rc?) Sou you most likely use a Motherboard with a VIA KT133A chipset. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: DVD+/-R writers
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Going by my own observation and not what someone tells me, it seems random >> >access write to DVD+RW is rather easier than to DVD-RW. I don't have to >> >blank the disk, and it still works at 0.1x speed. Andy's DVD+RW kernel patch >> >isn't meant for DVD-RW - could this be because DVD-RW doesn't allow >> >something? >> >> DVD+ _only_ works in some kind of packet mode. You need to format a DVD+RW >> before you may use it. >This is exactly what one could call "FUD tactic." So DVD+ recording >strategies are different from DVD- ones, so what? The fact that some >applications, cdrecord-ProDVD among them, required major modifications >to adopt DVD+ recording strategies doesn't speak against format or >products. It's the outcome, recorded media, that counts! Are you talking about your tactic to hide the fact that neither DVD+R nor DVD+RW support SAO recording? The best recording quality and readability is caused by writing in SAO mode. DVD+R usually does not know the size of the medium when it starts writing and therefore writes the TOC after the data. With DVD-R and DVD-RW and cdrecord you write in SAO mode which causes the TOC to be written first and the data to be written later without the need to reposition the laser. >Bottom line. We have discussed things DVD- has to offer, DVD+ doesn't. What das DVD- to offer? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD+/-R writers
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >As for DVD-RW on the other hand. If *minimally* formatted for Restricted >Overwrite, DVD-RW still can be recorded only *sequentially*. This makes >it virtually impossible to use *minimally* formatted DVD-RW media for >housing of live read-write file system. Only once fully formated (which >takes 1 hour for 1x media), DVD-RW permits for random write, but with >32KB granularity. Latter means that you either have to have special >kernel driver which would arrange for 32KB granularity or modify file >system code to do same thing. Now note that no work (at least no visible >outcome so far) has been done to accomplish either of these two >alternatives under Linux (or any other Unix implementation), [presumaly] >because it's damn hard. A. So DVD+RW drives do things in firmware what you need to do in the kernel if you like to have 2k granularity with DVD-RW. But this is nothing a new firmware could not support. Note that the kernel also first reads a 512 byte sector from a hard disk if you like to write only 64 bytes. AFAIK, DVD+RW also use the basic DVD physical sector size of 32k. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: growisofs for cd-RW and DVD-RW?
> Is there a tool like growisofs which workds with CD-R and/or DVD-R? growisofs works with *all* DVD media types, yes, including DVD-R and DVD-RW, and even supports *all* recording strategies. No, growisofs does not work with nor is planned to work with CD-R[W]. My standpoint on the latter is that it doesn't worth the trouble. Average filesets are hardly much less than CD capacity nowadays, not to mention that CD media is inexpensive enough to not care about leaving it half-full anyway. Secondly CD multi-sessioning overhead makes it impractical to use, e.g. if you want to put weekly incremental backups on one media, lead-ins/-outs will eat up ~1/4 of capacity. I didn't answer the question if there is *similar* tool for CD-R, because I don't know. > growisofs looked > like a convenient tool to reduce the effort of multisession. growisofs is the only program supporting DVD multi-sessioning. I mean it's not about "reducing the effort," it's rather about "making it possible." > Am I missing something with dvdrecord, or do I have to apply the kernel > patch to make it work? DMA issues are sole kernel domain. They are not, never were and won't be an application domain. I mean it's meaningless to look for an application which would "talk DMA." It's also meaningless to look for kernel DMA patch targeting some application in particular. > gaimboi:root> growisofs -v -dummy -Z /dev/scd0 -dDRNL white* ^ Please, read growisofs manual page more attentively. It's not a drop-in replacement for cdrecord. > :-( /dev/scd0: unsupported MMC profile 9 9 is CD-R, so it's intentional. A.
Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 21:25:50 2003 >> The PIoneer drives in contrast will try to write to any medium but they >> will use a specific slow write strategy in this case. >Interesting. Sounds much more customer-friendly. And the Plextor? My experiences with Plextor show that a high quality Pioneed 1x DVD-RW medium is not accepted ny the plector drive and the result it that it looks like cdrecord is broken because the Plextor drive does not handle mandatory commands (in case a DVD medium is loaded) anymore. Plextor knows about the problem, but I did not yet test 1.03 FW as all 5 other FW versions that I test did not fix the problem. >Well, I cannot give you more than what I already posted in these >threads (same for NEC and Plextor): > .. > Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. > BURN-Free is ON. > Turning BURN-Free off > ./cdrecord-ProDVD: VTrack 0 has unknown length. > ./cdrecord-ProDVD: Cannot open next track. > Writing time:0.006s You did not follow the man page for cdrecord and the README in ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ This is definitely wrong usage. cdrecord writes in SAO mode so it needs to know the sizes. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From: Markus Plail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >>> >Do you know any problems with this drive? >I think Pioneer's and thus (most of) Teacs DVD writers are fairly well >supported. I have the A05 clone from Teac (DV-W50E) and it works just >fine. >>> Plase name the Pioneer model number... >> How can I can get it? >Via google search for example. It's the same as the A06. Back to the original question: The A06 works great with DVD-R and DVD-RW. With DVD+RW there is a bug in the firmware that causes a quick format not to work as expected. You need to wait a long time after you formatted a media for the first time and then use cdrecord -force to write ignoring the visible media size. With DVD+R, it may be that there is the same finalizing problem as with the Plextor 708 Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 27 15:27:57 2003 >> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >> >Do you know any problems with this drive? >> >Thanks, Joerg! >> Plase name the Pioneer model number... >How can I can get it? If you can"t, describe the features in less than 100 characters. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plextor DMA problem on Linux
>From: Helmut Jarausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I've a puzzling problem and hope someone's experience >can help me. >I have quite a recent Plextor 48/24/48 burner attached to my Linux >system (currently 2.4.23-rc2) >This drive has been running initially with my kernel which enables >DMA by default. >Now I cannot use the drive anymore under such a kernel. >readcd dev=0,1,0 -f /dev/null works but that's special cased since >readcd dev=0,1,0 -f - | cat >/dev/null DOESN'T work and even >a normal 'mount' doesn't work. Always, I see a DMA timeout error on >kern.log. If you don't tell us what happens when you run readcd dev=0,1,0 -f - | cat >/dev/null, there is few I can do. It leads towards a defective sheduler in the kernel? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
>From: Andy Polyakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made by >> Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. >Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session >command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in >question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. >Latter alone means that FF became ambiguous at least in DVD- context, >which is why special meaning was removed. So that formally speaking it's >Ricoh which doesn't follow standard, as expecting MMC-3 unit to treat FF >specially is not exactly appropriate. Vendors are free to treat FF >specially in CD-R[W] context, for backward compatibility with old *CD* >recording software, but formally you can't *count* on that. A. Thank you for this hint, I thought the SCSI standard commitee was following SCSI standards:-( I already heard that the problem occurs when I try to finalize track 0xff but I thought that the SCSI committee was so clever not to make never releases contradict older versions of the standard. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PXUpdate / PX-708A
For all who might be interested, Today, I received the needed information to add Support for the 708 to the firmware upgrade tool. But even if I would immediaely create a new version you would need to wait until Plextor supplies us with plain vanilla firmware that is not hidden inside a DOS executable. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
>From: Catalin BOIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >Do you know any problems with this drive? Plase name the Pioneer model number... TEAC uses simular names for different drives so it is hard to help. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LG GSA-4040B and dvdwrite
>From: Ole Jacob Taraldset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I'm trying to get my LG GSA-4040B attached to a RedHat 8 box burn a iso doing >"dvdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 -dao -dummy /iso/shrike-i386-disc1.iso", but nothing >is written and I'm note sure what the error is. The disk is a DVD-R. >-Ole Jacob >dvdrtools v0.1.3 >Portions (c) 2002 Red Hat, Inc. >Based on: >Cdrecord 1.11a15 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling >TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM >scsidev: '0,0,0' >scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 >Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 >Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' >atapi: 1 >Device type: Removable CD-ROM >Version: 0 >Response Format: 2 >Capabilities : >Vendor_info: 'HL-DT-ST' >Identifikation : 'DVDRAM GSA-4040B' >Revision : 'A104' >Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD. >Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd). Your problem is not related to cdrecord but to an illegal program with is a hack on the real cdrecord and violates the GPL. If you need help, you need to contact the person who is responsible for the distribution. I don't believe that you will get help from him as he did never put own effort into this program. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plextor-Linux-DMA-problems (was cdrtools-2.01a19 - strange errors)
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 26 12:55:59 2003 >> His problems are caused by the fact that he did not read README.verify >> and README.copy. >> >Probably it isn't cdrecord's fault since a >readcd -c2scan >shows a perfect CD. >Now I have disabled DMA for the Plextor drive and now these errors >have gone. So it must be related to Plextor+Linux+DMA . >On my private PC at home (a newer Plextor 48x) I cannot access >the drive at all when DMA is enabled (even a simple 'mount' of an >ISO filesystem hangs) and the kernel log tells about a DMA timeout >error. (The kernel is a recent 2.4.23-rc?) Sou you most likely use a Motherboard with a VIA KT133A chipset. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD+/-R writers
> > Only once fully formated (which > >takes 1 hour for 1x media), DVD-RW permits for random write, but with > >32KB granularity. Latter means that you either have to have special > >kernel driver which would arrange for 32KB granularity or modify file > >system code to do same thing. Now note that no work (at least no visible > >outcome so far) has been done to accomplish either of these two > >alternatives under Linux (or any other Unix implementation), [presumaly] > >because it's damn hard. > > So DVD+RW drives do things in firmware what you need to do in the kernel > if you like to have 2k granularity with DVD-RW. But this is nothing a new > firmware could not support. Specifications are very explicit about I/O granularity in DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite mode. You seem to be willing to bend standard to suit you, it's not fair play. Secondly it doesn't really matter what one *could* *possibly* do [to stretch something to something else], does it? > Note that the kernel also first reads a 512 byte sector from a hard disk > if you like to write only 64 bytes. Yes. But as already implied, if you want to extend this to 32KB to accomodate DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, you have to modify kernel file system driver. The question was "why is there random access possibility for DVD+RW, but not for DVD-RW?" A.
Re: growisofs for cd-RW and DVD-RW?
> Is there a tool like growisofs which workds with CD-R and/or DVD-R? growisofs works with *all* DVD media types, yes, including DVD-R and DVD-RW, and even supports *all* recording strategies. No, growisofs does not work with nor is planned to work with CD-R[W]. My standpoint on the latter is that it doesn't worth the trouble. Average filesets are hardly much less than CD capacity nowadays, not to mention that CD media is inexpensive enough to not care about leaving it half-full anyway. Secondly CD multi-sessioning overhead makes it impractical to use, e.g. if you want to put weekly incremental backups on one media, lead-ins/-outs will eat up ~1/4 of capacity. I didn't answer the question if there is *similar* tool for CD-R, because I don't know. > growisofs looked > like a convenient tool to reduce the effort of multisession. growisofs is the only program supporting DVD multi-sessioning. I mean it's not about "reducing the effort," it's rather about "making it possible." > Am I missing something with dvdrecord, or do I have to apply the kernel > patch to make it work? DMA issues are sole kernel domain. They are not, never were and won't be an application domain. I mean it's meaningless to look for an application which would "talk DMA." It's also meaningless to look for kernel DMA patch targeting some application in particular. > gaimboi:root> growisofs -v -dummy -Z /dev/scd0 -dDRNL white* ^ Please, read growisofs manual page more attentively. It's not a drop-in replacement for cdrecord. > :-( /dev/scd0: unsupported MMC profile 9 9 is CD-R, so it's intentional. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 25 21:25:50 2003 >> The PIoneer drives in contrast will try to write to any medium but they >> will use a specific slow write strategy in this case. >Interesting. Sounds much more customer-friendly. And the Plextor? My experiences with Plextor show that a high quality Pioneed 1x DVD-RW medium is not accepted ny the plector drive and the result it that it looks like cdrecord is broken because the Plextor drive does not handle mandatory commands (in case a DVD medium is loaded) anymore. Plextor knows about the problem, but I did not yet test 1.03 FW as all 5 other FW versions that I test did not fix the problem. >Well, I cannot give you more than what I already posted in these >threads (same for NEC and Plextor): > .. > Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. > BURN-Free is ON. > Turning BURN-Free off > ./cdrecord-ProDVD: VTrack 0 has unknown length. > ./cdrecord-ProDVD: Cannot open next track. > Writing time:0.006s You did not follow the man page for cdrecord and the README in ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ This is definitely wrong usage. cdrecord writes in SAO mode so it needs to know the sizes. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plextor DMA problem on Linux
>From: Helmut Jarausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I've a puzzling problem and hope someone's experience >can help me. >I have quite a recent Plextor 48/24/48 burner attached to my Linux >system (currently 2.4.23-rc2) >This drive has been running initially with my kernel which enables >DMA by default. >Now I cannot use the drive anymore under such a kernel. >readcd dev=0,1,0 -f /dev/null works but that's special cased since >readcd dev=0,1,0 -f - | cat >/dev/null DOESN'T work and even >a normal 'mount' doesn't work. Always, I see a DMA timeout error on >kern.log. If you don't tell us what happens when you run readcd dev=0,1,0 -f - | cat >/dev/null, there is few I can do. It leads towards a defective sheduler in the kernel? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD+/-R writers
> The best recording quality and readability is caused by writing in SAO mode. The best compatibility among DVD- recording strategies, yes. The DVD Forum can't possibly maintain that it's best mode *ever*. > DVD+R usually does not know the size of the medium when it starts > writing and therefore writes the TOC after the data. With DVD-R and DVD-RW > and cdrecord you write in SAO mode which causes the TOC to be written first > and the data to be written later without the need to reposition the laser. High frequency DVD+ ADIP makes it possible to reposition the laser with adequate accuracy. Adequate enough to maintain compatibility with DVD-ROM. This was discussed already long time ago. And as already said implementing DVD+R SAO would *not* improve compatibility with DVD-ROM, so there is no point to complain about lack of it. In other words single DVD+R recording mode is more than enough. A.
Re: blanking a dvd-rw with dvd+rw-tools
> After having no success with cdrecord.prodvd, I have tried to blank a > Memorex dvd-rw. The blanking process seemed to be fine, but I get the > same mediainfo before the blanking than after it. Well, same info isn't necessarily wrong... > Bellow you have the result. > Disc status: appendable but "Disc status" should be "blank" after blanking... > Of course, I didn't get growisofs (through k3b) to burn any > files on the dvd. Is the disc physically damaged? Sounds rather like poorly supported media by unit firmware. There were reports that DVD-RW media acts as write-once, -twice or -three-times. It's mentioned on my -RW page. Change the media brand. A.
Re: DVD+/-R writers
> > Only once fully formated (which > >takes 1 hour for 1x media), DVD-RW permits for random write, but with > >32KB granularity. Latter means that you either have to have special > >kernel driver which would arrange for 32KB granularity or modify file > >system code to do same thing. Now note that no work (at least no visible > >outcome so far) has been done to accomplish either of these two > >alternatives under Linux (or any other Unix implementation), [presumaly] > >because it's damn hard. > > So DVD+RW drives do things in firmware what you need to do in the kernel > if you like to have 2k granularity with DVD-RW. But this is nothing a new > firmware could not support. Specifications are very explicit about I/O granularity in DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite mode. You seem to be willing to bend standard to suit you, it's not fair play. Secondly it doesn't really matter what one *could* *possibly* do [to stretch something to something else], does it? > Note that the kernel also first reads a 512 byte sector from a hard disk > if you like to write only 64 bytes. Yes. But as already implied, if you want to extend this to 32KB to accomodate DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, you have to modify kernel file system driver. The question was "why is there random access possibility for DVD+RW, but not for DVD-RW?" A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> >> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made > >> by > >> Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. > > > >Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session > >command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in > >question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. > > but I thought that the SCSI committee was so clever not to make never > releases contradict older versions of the standard. Once again! Specification does not condradict itself, not in DVD-context. They did the best they could. In order to provide for +2000 zones, they had to extend the field to two bytes and consequently keeping 0xFF would result in *ambiguous* behaviour. DVD recording program may not use 0xFF, unless it actually wants to close zone number 255. In other words DVD recording program expecting unit to treat value of 0xFF specially is basically broken. A.
Re: DVD+/-R writers
> The best recording quality and readability is caused by writing in SAO mode. The best compatibility among DVD- recording strategies, yes. The DVD Forum can't possibly maintain that it's best mode *ever*. > DVD+R usually does not know the size of the medium when it starts > writing and therefore writes the TOC after the data. With DVD-R and DVD-RW > and cdrecord you write in SAO mode which causes the TOC to be written first > and the data to be written later without the need to reposition the laser. High frequency DVD+ ADIP makes it possible to reposition the laser with adequate accuracy. Adequate enough to maintain compatibility with DVD-ROM. This was discussed already long time ago. And as already said implementing DVD+R SAO would *not* improve compatibility with DVD-ROM, so there is no point to complain about lack of it. In other words single DVD+R recording mode is more than enough. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrecord and multisession audio/data cd's?
I'm trying to use cdrecord to master a CD image to boot my Dreamcast.. Several sights say to master a 2-session cd, with the first session containing an audio track and the second containing your raw data image (in XA1 format). Several places on the net give the following commands to do this: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -multi -audio audio.raw cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -multi -xa1 data.raw (data.raw is a mkhybrid iso9660 filesystem, with the first few sectors overwritten with some boot code for the dreamcast) however, i've tried this sequence on two very different cdr's (an old trusty Toshiba SD-1002, and the newer sony CDRW/DVD in my i-book.) and i can never get cdrecord to record the second session (the first completes fine). The second always fails complaining about cannot open a new session/blah, illegal status ok, illegal arguments, etc. I've seen similar reports with errors posted on the web, some trying to do exactly what i'm trying to do, and everyone blows the off claiming it's a hardware, media, or firmware bug... I suppose that's possible, but I've never had problems with the toshiba before, and teh sony's brand new, so i'm a bit confused... Has something changed in cdrecord since these writeups were written (between 2 years ago and 6 months ago) that won't allou you to burn a multi-session cd with an audio track as the first track anymore? I've verified the raw image I'm using was created with the correct -msinfo offsets, etc.. I'm running out of ideas... I'm using cdrecord 2.01a19 on the ibook and 2.01a18 on the toshiba.. I'm going to try downgrading and see if i have better luck.. any thoughts on what's going on? tia, john.c -- John Clemens http://www.deater.net/john [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 7175925, IM: PianoManO8 "I Hate Quotes" -- Samuel L. Clemens
Re: blanking a dvd-rw with dvd+rw-tools
> After having no success with cdrecord.prodvd, I have tried to blank a > Memorex dvd-rw. The blanking process seemed to be fine, but I get the > same mediainfo before the blanking than after it. Well, same info isn't necessarily wrong... > Bellow you have the result. > Disc status: appendable but "Disc status" should be "blank" after blanking... > Of course, I didn't get growisofs (through k3b) to burn any > files on the dvd. Is the disc physically damaged? Sounds rather like poorly supported media by unit firmware. There were reports that DVD-RW media acts as write-once, -twice or -three-times. It's mentioned on my -RW page. Change the media brand. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
growisofs for cd-RW and DVD-RW?
Is there a tool like growisofs which workds with CD-R and/or DVD-R? I have had no problem using cdrecord and dvdrecord, but growisofs looked like a convenient tool to reduce the effort of multisession. I have no problem with dvdrecord other than it seeming to use PIO instead of DMA for burning, and taking far too many CPU cycles. cdrecord seems to burn CDs using DMA but whines about burning DVDs. Am I missing something with dvdrecord, or do I have to apply the kernel patch to make it work? There's a push to use stock kernels for this, so I very much don't want to choose that fight, slow and CPU intensive is better than commiting to providing custom kernels indefinitely. Result: gaimboi:root> growisofs -v -dummy -Z /dev/scd0 -dDRNL white* :-( /dev/scd0: unsupported MMC profile 9 Device info: gaimboi:root> dvdrecord dev=0,0,0 -checkdrive dvdrtools v0.1.4 Portions (c) 2002-2003 Ark Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. Based on: Cdrecord 1.11a15 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'bero-0.5a' dvdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (bero-0.5a '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.81 01/04/20 Copyright 1988,1995,2000 J. Schilling'). Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'PIONEER ' Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-104 ' Revision : '1.40' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R Common and standard drive, updated to the latest firmware a few days ago. Since it never tries to write and the media works fine with other software, "use better media" doesn't seem useful. -- E. Robert Bogusta It seemed like a good idea at the time
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> >> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made by > >> Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. > > > >Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session > >command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in > >question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. > > but I thought that the SCSI committee was so clever not to make never > releases contradict older versions of the standard. Once again! Specification does not condradict itself, not in DVD-context. They did the best they could. In order to provide for +2000 zones, they had to extend the field to two bytes and consequently keeping 0xFF would result in *ambiguous* behaviour. DVD recording program may not use 0xFF, unless it actually wants to close zone number 255. In other words DVD recording program expecting unit to treat value of 0xFF specially is basically broken. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cdrecord and multisession audio/data cd's?
I'm trying to use cdrecord to master a CD image to boot my Dreamcast.. Several sights say to master a 2-session cd, with the first session containing an audio track and the second containing your raw data image (in XA1 format). Several places on the net give the following commands to do this: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -multi -audio audio.raw cdrecord dev=0,0,0 -multi -xa1 data.raw (data.raw is a mkhybrid iso9660 filesystem, with the first few sectors overwritten with some boot code for the dreamcast) however, i've tried this sequence on two very different cdr's (an old trusty Toshiba SD-1002, and the newer sony CDRW/DVD in my i-book.) and i can never get cdrecord to record the second session (the first completes fine). The second always fails complaining about cannot open a new session/blah, illegal status ok, illegal arguments, etc. I've seen similar reports with errors posted on the web, some trying to do exactly what i'm trying to do, and everyone blows the off claiming it's a hardware, media, or firmware bug... I suppose that's possible, but I've never had problems with the toshiba before, and teh sony's brand new, so i'm a bit confused... Has something changed in cdrecord since these writeups were written (between 2 years ago and 6 months ago) that won't allou you to burn a multi-session cd with an audio track as the first track anymore? I've verified the raw image I'm using was created with the correct -msinfo offsets, etc.. I'm running out of ideas... I'm using cdrecord 2.01a19 on the ibook and 2.01a18 on the toshiba.. I'm going to try downgrading and see if i have better luck.. any thoughts on what's going on? tia, john.c -- John Clemens http://www.deater.net/john [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 7175925, IM: PianoManO8 "I Hate Quotes" -- Samuel L. Clemens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
growisofs for cd-RW and DVD-RW?
Is there a tool like growisofs which workds with CD-R and/or DVD-R? I have had no problem using cdrecord and dvdrecord, but growisofs looked like a convenient tool to reduce the effort of multisession. I have no problem with dvdrecord other than it seeming to use PIO instead of DMA for burning, and taking far too many CPU cycles. cdrecord seems to burn CDs using DMA but whines about burning DVDs. Am I missing something with dvdrecord, or do I have to apply the kernel patch to make it work? There's a push to use stock kernels for this, so I very much don't want to choose that fight, slow and CPU intensive is better than commiting to providing custom kernels indefinitely. Result: gaimboi:root> growisofs -v -dummy -Z /dev/scd0 -dDRNL white* :-( /dev/scd0: unsupported MMC profile 9 Device info: gaimboi:root> dvdrecord dev=0,0,0 -checkdrive dvdrtools v0.1.4 Portions (c) 2002-2003 Ark Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. Based on: Cdrecord 1.11a15 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'bero-0.5a' dvdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (bero-0.5a '@(#)scsitransp.c 1.81 01/04/20 Copyright 1988,1995,2000 J. Schilling'). Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'PIONEER ' Identifikation : 'DVD-RW DVR-104 ' Revision : '1.40' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R Common and standard drive, updated to the latest firmware a few days ago. Since it never tries to write and the media works fine with other software, "use better media" doesn't seem useful. -- E. Robert Bogusta It seemed like a good idea at the time -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blanking a dvd-rw with dvd+rw-tools
After having no success with cdrecord.prodvd, I have tried to blank a Memorex dvd-rw. The blanking process seemed to be fine, but I get the same mediainfo before the blanking than after it. Bellow you have the result. Of course, I didn't get growisofs (through k3b) to burn any files on the dvd. Is the disc physically damaged? Thanks, Pablo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd0 INQUIRY:[PIONEER ][DVD-RW DVR-K12RA][1.10] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 14h, DVD-RW Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0eh]: MediaID: ProdiscDVDRW Current Write Speed: 1.0x1385=1385KB/s Write Speed #0:1.0x1385=1385KB/s READ DVD STRUCTURE[#10h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Legacy lead-out at:2298481*2KB=4707289088 READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Last border-out at:0*2KB=0 READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: appendable Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: reserved/damaged "Next" Track: 1 Number of Tracks: 1 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: invisible incremental,damaged Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 2297888*2KB Track Size:2297888*2KB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-format /dev/scd0 * DVDÂRW format utility by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, version 4.7. * 4.7GB DVD-RW media in Sequential mode detected. - media is not blank - you have the option to re-run dvd+rw-format with: -force[=full] to enforce new format or mode transition and wipe the data; -blank[=full] to change to Sequential mode. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-format -blank /dev/scd0 * DVDÂRW format utility by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, version 4.7. * 4.7GB DVD-RW media in Sequential mode detected. * blanking 100.0- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd0 INQUIRY:[PIONEER ][DVD-RW DVR-K12RA][1.10] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 14h, DVD-RW Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0eh]: MediaID: ProdiscDVDRW Current Write Speed: 1.0x1385=1385KB/s Write Speed #0:1.0x1385=1385KB/s READ DVD STRUCTURE[#10h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Legacy lead-out at:2298481*2KB=4707289088 READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Last border-out at:0*2KB=0 READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: appendable Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: reserved/damaged "Next" Track: 1 Number of Tracks: 1 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: invisible incremental,damaged Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 2297888*2KB Track Size:2297888*2KB
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
Catalin BOIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >> >Do you know any problems with this drive? I think Pioneer's and thus (most of) Teacs DVD writers are fairly well supported. I have the A05 clone from Teac (DV-W50E) and it works just fine. >> Plase name the Pioneer model number... > How can I can get it? Via google search for example. It's the same as the A06. regards Markus
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. > >Do you know any problems with this drive? > Thanks, Joerg! > Plase name the Pioneer model number... How can I can get it? > TEAC uses simular names for different drives so it is hard to help. Hm, I understand. > > Jörg > > -- > EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) chars I am J"org Schilling > URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling > ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > --- Catalin(ux) BOIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
blanking a dvd-rw with dvd+rw-tools
After having no success with cdrecord.prodvd, I have tried to blank a Memorex dvd-rw. The blanking process seemed to be fine, but I get the same mediainfo before the blanking than after it. Bellow you have the result. Of course, I didn't get growisofs (through k3b) to burn any files on the dvd. Is the disc physically damaged? Thanks, Pablo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd0 INQUIRY:[PIONEER ][DVD-RW DVR-K12RA][1.10] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 14h, DVD-RW Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0eh]: MediaID: ProdiscDVDRW Current Write Speed: 1.0x1385=1385KB/s Write Speed #0:1.0x1385=1385KB/s READ DVD STRUCTURE[#10h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Legacy lead-out at:2298481*2KB=4707289088 READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Last border-out at:0*2KB=0 READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: appendable Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: reserved/damaged "Next" Track: 1 Number of Tracks: 1 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: invisible incremental,damaged Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 2297888*2KB Track Size:2297888*2KB [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-format /dev/scd0 * DVDÂRW format utility by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, version 4.7. * 4.7GB DVD-RW media in Sequential mode detected. - media is not blank - you have the option to re-run dvd+rw-format with: -force[=full] to enforce new format or mode transition and wipe the data; -blank[=full] to change to Sequential mode. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-format -blank /dev/scd0 * DVDÂRW format utility by <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, version 4.7. * 4.7GB DVD-RW media in Sequential mode detected. * blanking 100.0- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ousia]$ dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd0 INQUIRY:[PIONEER ][DVD-RW DVR-K12RA][1.10] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 14h, DVD-RW Sequential READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0eh]: MediaID: ProdiscDVDRW Current Write Speed: 1.0x1385=1385KB/s Write Speed #0:1.0x1385=1385KB/s READ DVD STRUCTURE[#10h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Legacy lead-out at:2298481*2KB=4707289088 READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]: Media Book Type: 32h, DVD-RW book [revision 2] Last border-out at:0*2KB=0 READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: appendable Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: reserved/damaged "Next" Track: 1 Number of Tracks: 1 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: invisible incremental,damaged Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 2297888*2KB Track Size:2297888*2KB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
Catalin BOIE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. >> >Do you know any problems with this drive? I think Pioneer's and thus (most of) Teacs DVD writers are fairly well supported. I have the A05 clone from Teac (DV-W50E) and it works just fine. >> Plase name the Pioneer model number... > How can I can get it? Via google search for example. It's the same as the A06. regards Markus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TEAC DV-W50D
> >I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. > >Do you know any problems with this drive? > Thanks, Joerg! > Plase name the Pioneer model number... How can I can get it? > TEAC uses simular names for different drives so it is hard to help. Hm, I understand. > > Jörg > > -- > EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) chars I am J"org Schilling > URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily > --- Catalin(ux) BOIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> I just bought Imation 2.4x DVD+R and it works fine w/ growisofs. Now that I call dedication - Thanks :) But I should have mentioned mine are 4x (what do you want with a 708 that can do 8x and media for 2.4?) Anyways, it is quite strange, as my Imation have the identical ATIP (RICOHJPN/R01) like the original Ricoh (checked this with DVD Identifier / XP with the old NEC) - and yet the Ricoh worked while the Imation did not. FL
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> I just bought Imation 2.4x DVD+R and it works fine w/ growisofs. Now that I call dedication - Thanks :) But I should have mentioned mine are 4x (what do you want with a 708 that can do 8x and media for 2.4?) Anyways, it is quite strange, as my Imation have the identical ATIP (RICOHJPN/R01) like the original Ricoh (checked this with DVD Identifier / XP with the old NEC) - and yet the Ricoh worked while the Imation did not. FL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/raw/raw? and growisofs and DVD+R
> I'm using a PX-708A with DVD+R Verbatim disks.
>
> But its very slow.
First of all, make sure you use at least growisofs 5.11. 5.11 addresses
DVD+ performance problem with Pioneer unit, but later it became apparent
that Plextor unit would exhibit same performance degradation. If you
already use 5.11 or later, then I can only tell that I've had received
report from another PX-708A user, who reported that recording goes with
varying velocity and significantly slower than expected. Reportedly the
problem just disappeared with kernel upgrade [from 2.4.18 to 2.4.22 in
his case]. The [subtle scheduling] problem is most likely IDE chipset
specific, as there are more reports that the unit performs as expected.
> So I read up and it looks like if I can burn using the
> raw io interface after binding /dev/scd0 to /dev/raw/raw1.
> :-( unable to open64("/dev/raw/raw1",O_RDWR): Read-only file system
Opening /dev/scd0 and bound /dev/raw/raw1 for O_RDWR works *exclusively*
for DVD+RW, *never* with DVD+R, so just skip it.
> I don't get this error message with /dev/scd0.
Because growisofs detects not DVD+RW media and doesn't attempt to open
device for O_RDWR. A.
TEAC DV-W50D
Hello, list! I want to buy a TEAC DV-W50D. Do you know any problems with this drive? Thank you very much! --- Catalin(ux) BOIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made by > Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. Latter alone means that FF became ambiguous at least in DVD- context, which is why special meaning was removed. So that formally speaking it's Ricoh which doesn't follow standard, as expecting MMC-3 unit to treat FF specially is not exactly appropriate. Vendors are free to treat FF specially in CD-R[W] context, for backward compatibility with old *CD* recording software, but formally you can't *count* on that. A.
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
I just bought Imation 2.4x DVD+R and it works fine w/ growisofs. -Dyson Florian Lindauer wrote: All that you can find within this thread. cdrecord-proDVD does not work with DVD-R (does not start recording) and got stuck on session close with DVD+R. growisofs works for most media, but not with Imation DVD+R (again, stuck when closing session). The latter is a bit special for you to reproduce, but if you are willing to risk a coaster, just record to some DVD+R medium using proDVD - I used an original Ricoh medium. Thanks, FL
Re: /dev/raw/raw? and growisofs and DVD+R
> I'm using a PX-708A with DVD+R Verbatim disks.
>
> But its very slow.
First of all, make sure you use at least growisofs 5.11. 5.11 addresses
DVD+ performance problem with Pioneer unit, but later it became apparent
that Plextor unit would exhibit same performance degradation. If you
already use 5.11 or later, then I can only tell that I've had received
report from another PX-708A user, who reported that recording goes with
varying velocity and significantly slower than expected. Reportedly the
problem just disappeared with kernel upgrade [from 2.4.18 to 2.4.22 in
his case]. The [subtle scheduling] problem is most likely IDE chipset
specific, as there are more reports that the unit performs as expected.
> So I read up and it looks like if I can burn using the
> raw io interface after binding /dev/scd0 to /dev/raw/raw1.
> :-( unable to open64("/dev/raw/raw1",O_RDWR): Read-only file system
Opening /dev/scd0 and bound /dev/raw/raw1 for O_RDWR works *exclusively*
for DVD+RW, *never* with DVD+R, so just skip it.
> I don't get this error message with /dev/scd0.
Because growisofs detects not DVD+RW media and doesn't attempt to open
device for O_RDWR. A.
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Re: DVD recording adventures continued
> There is another problem with DVD+, it seems that all DVD+ drives not made by > Ricoh don't follow the SCSI standards. Special meaning for value of FF in Track Number in Close Track/Session command was removed already in MMC-2. At the same time as the field in question was extended to two bytes as DVD- permits for over 2000 zones. Latter alone means that FF became ambiguous at least in DVD- context, which is why special meaning was removed. So that formally speaking it's Ricoh which doesn't follow standard, as expecting MMC-3 unit to treat FF specially is not exactly appropriate. Vendors are free to treat FF specially in CD-R[W] context, for backward compatibility with old *CD* recording software, but formally you can't *count* on that. A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD recording adventures continued
I just bought Imation 2.4x DVD+R and it works fine w/ growisofs. -Dyson Florian Lindauer wrote: All that you can find within this thread. cdrecord-proDVD does not work with DVD-R (does not start recording) and got stuck on session close with DVD+R. growisofs works for most media, but not with Imation DVD+R (again, stuck when closing session). The latter is a bit special for you to reproduce, but if you are willing to risk a coaster, just record to some DVD+R medium using proDVD - I used an original Ricoh medium. Thanks, FL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrtools & linux 2.6.0
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 02:29:10PM +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: > short question: > > Does cdrtools work on a linux 2.6.0 based machine ? Yes, very good ;-) (with ide-scsi, or real scsi) Grégoire http://magma.epfl.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrtools & linux 2.6.0
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 02:29:10PM +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: > short question: > > Does cdrtools work on a linux 2.6.0 based machine ? Yes, very good ;-) (with ide-scsi, or real scsi) Grégoire http://magma.epfl.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
