Re: New Lite-On 4X DVD plus/dash RW drive

2003-12-02 Thread Lourens Veen
On Mon 1 December 2003 16:26, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> From: Clarence Wilkerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Pardon me. I've missed the discussion of dvdrecord and non GPL
> > compliance.
> >
> >But I was trying out my new Lite-On DVD writer this last weekend
> > ( $80 after rebates at Best Buy ). With dvdrecord, it would not
> > detect as a dvd, but only as a cd. It also gave me certain scsi
> > command errors. Is this a known problem with the Lite-On and
> > dvdrecord?
> >a dvd
>
> This list is not the place to discuss problems of this
> "dvdrecord" it has plenty of known problems and the self called
> "maintainter" does not fix them

And if you want Jörg's earlier comments, see 
http://www.mail-archive.com/cdwrite@other.debian.org/msg02397.html

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Re: New Lite-On 4X DVD plus/dash RW drive

2003-12-02 Thread Lourens Veen
On Mon 1 December 2003 16:26, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> From: Clarence Wilkerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Pardon me. I've missed the discussion of dvdrecord and non GPL
> > compliance.
> >
> >But I was trying out my new Lite-On DVD writer this last weekend
> > ( $80 after rebates at Best Buy ). With dvdrecord, it would not
> > detect as a dvd, but only as a cd. It also gave me certain scsi
> > command errors. Is this a known problem with the Lite-On and
> > dvdrecord?
> >a dvd
>
> This list is not the place to discuss problems of this
> "dvdrecord" it has plenty of known problems and the self called
> "maintainter" does not fix them

And if you want Jörg's earlier comments, see 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg02397.html

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Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> OK, found the %spftw.. and the unpacked Opal_103.bin in the
>> Win-user's LocalSettings temp dir. Now, have I proven worthy :) 

>Why don't you do all Plextor users a favour, and post how to extract
>the firmware binary file from the supplied .exe on Linux, i.e. not
>using windows. Including file names, file sizes, versions and byte
>offsets, and some distinct strings to look for. Or did you just run it
>on windows and found it left the file lieing around?

Plextor promised me to "enhance" the web server to inglude the pure binary.

As other people did mention enough things: all you need is an editor
that allows to to easily edit a binary file e.g. VED:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/ved/

and "cabextract". So it works on UNIX.


Jörg

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Re: New Lite-On 4X DVD plus/dash RW drive

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>On Tue 02 Dec 2003 04:26:58 NZDT +1300, Joerg Schilling wrote:

>> This list is not the place to discuss problems of this "dvdrecord" it has 
>> plenty
>> of known problems and the self called "maintainter" does not fix them

>You keep on saying that this list is not for discussing dvdrecord.
>Please substantiate, or stop it. Are you a list admin? The list's
>website doesn't mention a charta, in lieu of one I got the impression
>"discussion of optical disk recording software under *ix, *bsd and
>os-x" describes it pretty well. This does include discussion of
>dvdrecord, whether you like that software or not.

Well, I don't like people discussing here about an _illegal_ program.

Ad I did write many times, dvdrecord ignores the GPL and thus is illegal.


>As for dvdrecord, it's best buried because it died of old age,
>which makes its license a non-issue.



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Re: highest priority?

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Hanspeter Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> It may be that you are hit by Linux ps missfeatures :-(

>And what are »Linux ps missfeatures« ?
>(I'm running cdrecord and cdda2wav on FreeBsd.)

It ignores that fact that there is more than historic UNIX priorities from
the 1970's.

>> they run on a even much higher priority

>So is it necessary or is it just for fun?
>(cdda2wav freezes the display on a ATAPI Ultra-ATA2 drive if -S is
>omitted.)
>I've run cdda2wav at -4 (setpriority()) and didn't encounter a problem.

If you have such problems, this looks as if you did not properly set up the 
drive or as if the Kernel is unable to support DMA.

Jörg

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Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> OK, found the %spftw.. and the unpacked Opal_103.bin in the
>> Win-user's LocalSettings temp dir. Now, have I proven worthy :) 

>Why don't you do all Plextor users a favour, and post how to extract
>the firmware binary file from the supplied .exe on Linux, i.e. not
>using windows. Including file names, file sizes, versions and byte
>offsets, and some distinct strings to look for. Or did you just run it
>on windows and found it left the file lieing around?

Plextor promised me to "enhance" the web server to inglude the pure binary.

As other people did mention enough things: all you need is an editor
that allows to to easily edit a binary file e.g. VED:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/ved/

and "cabextract". So it works on UNIX.


Jörg

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Re: New Lite-On 4X DVD plus/dash RW drive

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>On Tue 02 Dec 2003 04:26:58 NZDT +1300, Joerg Schilling wrote:

>> This list is not the place to discuss problems of this "dvdrecord" it has plenty
>> of known problems and the self called "maintainter" does not fix them

>You keep on saying that this list is not for discussing dvdrecord.
>Please substantiate, or stop it. Are you a list admin? The list's
>website doesn't mention a charta, in lieu of one I got the impression
>"discussion of optical disk recording software under *ix, *bsd and
>os-x" describes it pretty well. This does include discussion of
>dvdrecord, whether you like that software or not.

Well, I don't like people discussing here about an _illegal_ program.

Ad I did write many times, dvdrecord ignores the GPL and thus is illegal.


>As for dvdrecord, it's best buried because it died of old age,
>which makes its license a non-issue.



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Re: highest priority?

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Hanspeter Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> It may be that you are hit by Linux ps missfeatures :-(

>And what are »Linux ps missfeatures« ?
>(I'm running cdrecord and cdda2wav on FreeBsd.)

It ignores that fact that there is more than historic UNIX priorities from
the 1970's.

>> they run on a even much higher priority

>So is it necessary or is it just for fun?
>(cdda2wav freezes the display on a ATAPI Ultra-ATA2 drive if -S is
>omitted.)
>I've run cdda2wav at -4 (setpriority()) and didn't encounter a problem.

If you have such problems, this looks as if you did not properly set up the 
drive or as if the Kernel is unable to support DMA.

Jörg

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Spam from Gil Disatnik

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
I just received this:

/*--*/
Hello,
Due to the high amount of spam I am getting - I have to filter all incoming 
emails.
The mail you have just sent is being held until you verify that you are a real 
person and not a machine by simply replying to this email.
Once you approve yourself - you will be added to the "white list" of approved 
senders and there will be no need to re-approve your emails in the future.

If you did not understand any of the above: Just hit "reply", send the mail and 
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Thank you for understanding.
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Please note that this is _definitly_ an unfriendly way of dealing with mail
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Re: cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Gil Disatnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Hello,
>I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn cds 
>the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to x16 
>speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

>I am using Slackware current and I have enabled 32bit/dma on both hda and hdc.


Notenook burners typically use normal CD-RW Chipsets and reduce the speed (rpm)
of the spindle motor to 1/2 of the speed of a "big" drive.

What you see is what you should expect.


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Re: cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Markus Plail
Gil Disatnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn
> cds the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to
> x16 speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

That's normal behaviour for certain cd writers. It's a question of the
write strategy. This one is named Zone-CLV, which means that it writes a
constant linear velocity in certain zones (0-168, 168-502, 502-end in
your case). 

There's also CAV which means constant angular, which means that the drive
will rotate at the same speed throughout the whole burn process.
And thus the writing speed will increase with every written MB.

regards
Markus



cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Gil Disatnik
Hello,
I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn cds 
the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to x16 
speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

I am using Slackware current and I have enabled 32bit/dma on both hda and hdc.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Regards
Gil Disatnik
UNIX system administrator.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://gil.disatnik.com
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Spam from Gil Disatnik

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
I just received this:

/*--*/
Hello,
Due to the high amount of spam I am getting - I have to filter all incoming emails.
The mail you have just sent is being held until you verify that you are a real person 
and not a machine by simply replying to this email.
Once you approve yourself - you will be added to the "white list" of approved senders 
and there will be no need to re-approve your emails in the future.

If you did not understand any of the above: Just hit "reply", send the mail and 
everything will be just fine...

Thank you for understanding.
Gil.
/*--*/

Please note that this is _definitly_ an unfriendly way of dealing with mail
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Re: cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
>From: Gil Disatnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Hello,
>I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn cds 
>the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to x16 
>speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

>I am using Slackware current and I have enabled 32bit/dma on both hda and hdc.


Notenook burners typically use normal CD-RW Chipsets and reduce the speed (rpm)
of the spindle motor to 1/2 of the speed of a "big" drive.

What you see is what you should expect.


Jörg

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Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued

2003-12-02 Thread Florian Lindauer
> Why don't you do all Plextor users a favour, and post how to extract
> the firmware binary file from the supplied .exe on Linux, i.e. not
> using windows. Including file names, file sizes, versions and byte
> offsets, and some distinct strings to look for.

Hey, it was someone else not telling much, what I posted is
quite a full description. Yes, I used Windows. The image is much
bigger than the executable, so it must be compressed. And I wouldnt be
so sure that data starts after that "Opal"-string. No idea how to
extract it without Windows.
Using Windows, just start the exe and note that for a very short time
you see an extract display. Then, leave the program running and look
where it was temporarily unpacked. You will find it under the
DocumentsAndSetting//LocalSettings/temp in some newly created
subdir. Thats it. At least under XP. With other Win-flavours, the
temp may be located somewhere else - but you just need to search
for a file named "Opal*".

FL



Re: cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Markus Plail
Gil Disatnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn
> cds the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to
> x16 speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

That's normal behaviour for certain cd writers. It's a question of the
write strategy. This one is named Zone-CLV, which means that it writes a
constant linear velocity in certain zones (0-168, 168-502, 502-end in
your case). 

There's also CAV which means constant angular, which means that the drive
will rotate at the same speed throughout the whole burn process.
And thus the writing speed will increase with every written MB.

regards
Markus


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cdrecord starts slow and speeds up later

2003-12-02 Thread Gil Disatnik
Hello,
I have a dvd/cdrw combo on my D600 laptop, when using cdrecord to burn cds 
the burning process starts at x10 speed, after 168MB it goes up to x16 
speed and only after 502MB it finally reaches x24 speed.

I am using Slackware current and I have enabled 32bit/dma on both hda and hdc.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Regards

Gil Disatnik
UNIX system administrator.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://gil.disatnik.com
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
apt-get install slackware

"Windows NT has detected mouse movement, you MUST restart
your computer before the new settings will take effect, [ OK ]"

Windows is a 32 bit patch to a 16 bit GUI based on a 8 bit operating
system, written for a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company which can
not stand 1 bit of competition.
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Re: Re: DVD recording adventures continued

2003-12-02 Thread Florian Lindauer
> Why don't you do all Plextor users a favour, and post how to extract
> the firmware binary file from the supplied .exe on Linux, i.e. not
> using windows. Including file names, file sizes, versions and byte
> offsets, and some distinct strings to look for.

Hey, it was someone else not telling much, what I posted is
quite a full description. Yes, I used Windows. The image is much
bigger than the executable, so it must be compressed. And I wouldnt be
so sure that data starts after that "Opal"-string. No idea how to
extract it without Windows.
Using Windows, just start the exe and note that for a very short time
you see an extract display. Then, leave the program running and look
where it was temporarily unpacked. You will find it under the
DocumentsAndSetting//LocalSettings/temp in some newly created
subdir. Thats it. At least under XP. With other Win-flavours, the
temp may be located somewhere else - but you just need to search
for a file named "Opal*".

FL


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