DVD 1:1 Copy SCO

2006-02-16 Thread KSausW

Guten Tag,

wir haben SCO-Unix im Einsatz und dort einen DVD-Writer/ReWriter eingebaut.

Welche Möglichkeit habe ich, eine DVD 1:1 bootfähig zu copieren?

Das Programm "cdrecord" ist vorhanden und funktioniert tadellos - wir 
verwenden es u.a zur Datensicherung.


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Re: "logical unit communication failure" c2scan NEC ND-4550A 1.07

2006-02-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Filtering SCSI commands was an unannounced change of the interface
> >that needs to be called a bug. I still do not see any fix for this.
> >
>
> Unannounced? It was in LKML, it was in the changelog, it was discussed 
> in multiple places, it was in the source code... where was it unannounced?

It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing untested code.

Announced (in case of an incompatible change) means:

-   prominent developers of code that uses the interface that is to
be changed need to be informed a sufficent time _before_ the
incompatible change is applied.

In general, it would make Linux a mature project if such changes would be 
discussed for being reasonable with other people ( e.g. with experienced 
programmers like me).

Jörg

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Re: "logical unit communication failure" c2scan NEC ND-4550A 1.07

2006-02-16 Thread Matthias Andree
Joerg Schilling schrieb am 2006-02-16:

> Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > >Filtering SCSI commands was an unannounced change of the interface
> > >that needs to be called a bug. I still do not see any fix for this.
> > >
> >
> > Unannounced? It was in LKML, it was in the changelog, it was discussed 
> > in multiple places, it was in the source code... where was it unannounced?
> 
> It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
> cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
> cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing untested code.

Well, the dependency is pretty clear, cdrecord doesn't have a say as to
what the kernel does or leaves. It's not like a newly released kernel
would run instantly on 50% of the Linux systems, it usually takes a few
month until it hits the distributions.

> Announced (in case of an incompatible change) means:
> 
> - prominent developers of code that uses the interface that is to
>   be changed need to be informed a sufficent time _before_ the
>   incompatible change is applied.

You're asking too much here. At the time the change was introduced, all
that was needed was adding /dev/hd* to the scan list and the LF_ATA
workaround (BTW, you still haven't explained what LF_ATA inside libscg
is good for, I asked many days ago).

> In general, it would make Linux a mature project if such changes would be 
> discussed for being reasonable with other people ( e.g. with experienced 
> programmers like me).

It's good that you only attribute "experienced" and not other
adjectives to yourself here. One might otherwise get the idea you were
boasting with the scarcely documented code...

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Re: "logical unit communication failure" c2scan NEC ND-4550A 1.07

2006-02-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Don, 16 Feb 2006, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
> cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
> cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing untested code.
> 
> Announced (in case of an incompatible change) means:
> 
> - prominent developers of code that uses the interface that is to
>   be changed need to be informed a sufficent time _before_ the
>   incompatible change is applied.

If "prominent" developer need close interaction with the kernel, they
might be well advised in reading LKML regularly. There was for sure a
longe time frame between proposal and actual introduction than 2 weeks.

> In general, it would make Linux a mature project if such changes would be 

Well, mature enough for enough companies to use it. And mature enough to
have enough "experienced" programmers. You are not the only one.


Best wishes

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Re: "logical unit communication failure" c2scan NEC ND-4550A 1.07

2006-02-16 Thread Bill Davidsen

Joerg Schilling wrote:


Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Filtering SCSI commands was an unannounced change of the interface
that needs to be called a bug. I still do not see any fix for this.

 

Unannounced? It was in LKML, it was in the changelog, it was discussed 
in multiple places, it was in the source code... where was it unannounced?
   



It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing untested code.

Announced (in case of an incompatible change) means:

-   prominent developers of code that uses the interface that is to
be changed need to be informed a sufficent time _before_ the
incompatible change is applied.

In general, it would make Linux a mature project if such changes would be 
discussed for being reasonable with other people ( e.g. with experienced 
programmers like me).




This was not a change made because it would be nice, it was made because 
it became public information that anyone who could burn could change the 
firmware. Security fixes sometime do have to be done quickly, evil 
people do tend to jump on any opening in the time between a 
vulnerability becoming public and being fixed.


You are an experienced programmer, you are aware that sometimes a quick 
fix needs to be made and tuned after the fact.


Now if you and the udev floks and the Fedora folks could just get 
together and address USB attached burners not working, it would be 
really nice. That is, decide who can fix it most easily instead of who 
can be blamed for something done with good intentions.


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Re: dvd+rw-tools update [6.0, DVD-R DL]

2006-02-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >But now I see where you like to use O_DIRECT.
> >
> >If you use O_DIRECT for writing, it makes sense and in the same case
> >it makes sense to use directio(fd, DIRECTIO_ON); on Solaris.
> >  
> >
> By not buffering the output of mkisofs, for example, buffer space is 
> available for reading. This makes a small improvement on a large memory, 
> much more as the memory is smaller and read ahead could be impacted by 
> buffering writes.
>
> >Although on Solaris, it only saves System CPU time and I cannot see
> >an wall clock improvement.
> >  
> >
> I haven't tested there, and I bet you have not tested in small memory (I 
> use 160MB for test).
>
> >Whether this makes sense with the _output_ file from star or mkisofs
> >needs to be tested.
> >
>
> I had not tried with the output of star, that's an interesting suggestion.

I did try it recently with creating a SchilliX ISO image (~ 2 files
700 MB) and it did not help.

Jörg

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Re: "logical unit communication failure" c2scan NEC ND-4550A 1.07

2006-02-16 Thread scdbackup
Hi,

> This was not a change made because it would be nice, it was made because 
> it became public information that anyone who could burn could change the 
> firmware. Security fixes sometime do have to be done quickly, evil 
> people do tend to jump on any opening in the time between a 
> vulnerability becoming public and being fixed.

I am looking since quite a while for the particular
and substantial security problems which one is said
to have if one allows w-access to a CD/DVD writer.

By help of your name and some keywords from above i
googled into a thread at the kernel mailing list.
Nevertheless the threads and subtreads in the archives
are a bit manifold ... sigh.

Could you please answer me the following questions
resp. point me to some comprehensive answers :

- Is there other stuff at risk besides my 60 Euro burner ?
  Is system security in general threatened by the extreme
  example
chmod a+rw /dev/hdc   (resp.  /dev/sg0 with 2.4 ide-scsi)

- What was the worst threat which could be identified
  through that discussion ? 

- If i am willing to risk my burner's health (which i do
  with any physical tray load, actually) what would you
  advise me to do:
  - run a self written setuid-root or sudo program on restrictive
rights
  - allow generous access to /dev/hdc and use neither setuid
nor sudo
  I have to amend that i am experienced but not in the sense
  as Joerg or kernel programmers. I know my limits and am not
  100% sure wether i could make a program that is setuid-safe.
  Nevertheless if chmod a+w is globally deadly, then i will 
  hardly have a choice but to try.
 
This topic affects users of growisofs too, i guess.
At least i run my growisofs that style. (No hostile
users expected ... but one never knoes.)

Thanks in advance for any information.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: DVD 1:1 Copy SCO

2006-02-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
KSausW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Guten Tag,
>
> wir haben SCO-Unix im Einsatz und dort einen DVD-Writer/ReWriter eingebaut.
>
> Welche Möglichkeit habe ich, eine DVD 1:1 bootfähig zu copieren?

Man cdrecord liefert tie Loesung.



Jörg

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Problems burning DVD-RW on Plextor PX-716a

2006-02-16 Thread Denis S
Hi! I'm new to this list so sorry if this quesiton was already 
raised(I've search archive but didn't find an answer please point me if 
I overlook it).
I had PX-716a drive and got a problem with writing DVD-RW disks, new 
disks are burning without any issues, but if you try to rewrite it, k3b 
prompt me to format it, but even after this it doens't accept disk. I've 
tried two different brands and has same problem. DVD+RW burning without 
any issues.
I had DVD+RW-Tools-6.1 installed along with latest cdrecord and 
k3b(other GUIs won't rewrite DVD-RW disks as well).
When I try to burn such DVD K3b "Found DVD-RW Sequential medial in 
PLEXTOR-DVDR PX-716A. Should it be formatted?"


Does anyone could advice me where this problem come from and how it 
could be resolved?


Best regards,
Denis S.
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