Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Hi, I've moved from growisofs [...] to wodim, finally to cdrecord cdrecord 2.01.01a37. What was the reason to give up growisofs ? It is supposed to do multi-session on DVD+R if you do not use options -dvd-compat or -dvd-video. cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0,0 -eject -multi -tao -data track_01.iso With program cdrskin these options would do multi-session resp. leave the media appendable. cdrskin (i am its author): http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin_eng.html Source tarball http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin-0.4.2.pl00.tar.gz Installation instructions: http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/README_cdrskin 32-bit static x86 binary (if suitable for you): http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin_0.4.2.pl00-x86-suse9_0-static.tar.gz As Debian package i would recommend http://packages.debian.org/sid/cdrskin (What Debian classifies as stable is heavily outdated and can only burn CD. 0.4.2 is the most stable cdrskin. Needed for DVD+R is at least cdrskin-0.3.6.) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Thanks for replying.(^_^) Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, I've moved from growisofs [...] to wodim, finally to cdrecord cdrecord 2.01.01a37. What was the reason to give up growisofs ? It is supposed to do multi-session on DVD+R if you do not use options -dvd-compat or -dvd-video. Reason 1: I read the man page and I did exactly what it stated, and it wasn't working for me. Please see my current posting (5 days old) on ubuntuforums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4288486 No body could really help me with this issue. But as you will see I didn't stop there. I also began to analyze K3B's debugging output. I had the most difficult time trying to find any more documentation that wasn't already included in the man pages, or through google searches to see what it was I could be doing wrong. Reason 2: I finally went to |#cdrkit| on |irc.oftc.net |and waited four days before I finally got a response. One of the chat members stated: 1. I see you have found one of our bugs. I think we are long overdue for an upgrade. 2. Sorry, I can't help you. I've never worked with multisession DVD +Rs. 3. Why don't you try http://www.mail-archive.com/cdwrite@other.debian.org/info.html. They might be able to help you. Reason 3: I see there is a really big mess right now with this whole wodim - cdrecord - growisofs - genimageiso, whatever. All I want is to burn a multisessin DVD+R win a command line environment so I can do backups. Whatever I can get to work, thats fine. Basicly, after spending a week with growisofs / genimageiso and getting no-where, I'm tryng something else I haven't tried before. I'm reading and trying as much as I intellectually can before I ask for help. I was able to get a lot further in cdrecord, but however I can get this done, that's what I'll do. cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0,0 -eject -multi -tao -data track_01.iso With program cdrskin these options would do multi-session resp. leave the media appendable. cdrskin (i am its author): http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin_eng.html Source tarball http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin-0.4.2.pl00.tar.gz Installation instructions: http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/README_cdrskin 32-bit static x86 binary (if suitable for you): http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin_0.4.2.pl00-x86-suse9_0-static.tar.gz As Debian package i would recommend http://packages.debian.org/sid/cdrskin (What Debian classifies as stable is heavily outdated and can only burn CD. 0.4.2 is the most stable cdrskin. Needed for DVD+R is at least cdrskin-0.3.6.) I research on this and try it too. Have a nice day :) Thanks. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Slight install issue :( I tried a simple command: cdrskin and recieved this error: cdrskin: error while loading shared libraries: libburn.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory locate cannot find it. I didn;t recieve any errors durning the ./configure, make, make install. Unfortunately I couldn't to a make check? make: Nothing to be done for `check'. Here is some output for make install: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/catalog/cdrskin/cdrskin-0.4.2# make install make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/catalog/cdrskin/cdrskin-0.4.2' test -z /usr/local/lib || mkdir -p -- /usr/local/lib /bin/bash ./libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c 'libburn/libburn.la' '/usr/local/lib/libburn.la' test -z /usr/local/bin || mkdir -p -- /usr/local/bin /bin/bash ./libtool --silent --mode=install /usr/bin/install -c 'cdrskin/cdrskin' '/usr/local/bin/cdrskin' if [ -f ./doc/doc.lock ]; then \ /usr/catalog/cdrskin/cdrskin-0.4.2/install-sh -d /usr/local/share/doc/libburn-0.4.2/html; \ /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 doc/html/* /usr/local/share/doc/libburn-0.4.2/html; \ fi test -z /usr/local/include/libburn || mkdir -p -- /usr/local/include/libburn /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'libburn/libburn.h' '/usr/local/include/libburn/libburn.h' test -z /usr/local/share/man/man1 || mkdir -p -- /usr/local/share/man/man1 /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 './cdrskin/cdrskin.1' '/usr/local/share/man/man1/cdrskin.1' test -z /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig || mkdir -p -- /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 'libburn-1.pc' '/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/libburn-1.pc' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/catalog/cdrskin/cdrskin-0.4.2' Now, I tried to do some more after this, and I downloaded and installed libburn from http://files.libburnia-project.org/releases/libburn-0.4.2.tar.gz Next, I went back to cdskins, make clean, configure, make, make install, and I still recieved the error: cdrskin: error while loading shared libraries: libburn.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory doing a locate for libburn* bring up nothing :( I'll be waiting patiently :) I'll wait to answer your last email as soon ans I can get cdrskin working and I can try some stuff. I am still feeling adventurous (^_^) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Hi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4288486 You have a problem with the formatter program genisoimage, a clone of mkisofs. growisofs uses mkisofs (or a clone of it) as formatter. It obtains multi-session info from media, operates mkisofs accordingly, and directs the resulting image to media by its own DVD capabilities (which are ecxellent, btw). Step 2 - Append each additional track: I moved an existing file out of the current directory and into another: /media/sdc1/backups/rt/2008/02/ rt.2008.02.06.tgz and added a new file: /media/sdc1/backups/rt/2008/02/ rt.2008.02.07.tgz ... # growisofs -M /dev/hda -R -J /media/sdc1/backups/rt Your idea is great. Greater than genisoimage can fulfill currently. You cannot delete or rename a file by genisoimage multi-session. genisoimage will not examine a directory tree for changes and update it in the ISO image. Looks like it rather refused to overwrite some directory. Or it is just a bug. Hard to say. You should nevertheless be able to add a new file to an existing directory. Try whether this works as second session: growisofs -M /dev/hda -R -J /media/sdc1/backups/rt/2008/02/rt.2008.02.07.tgz (Use fresh media. Not those from previous experiments.) With cdrskin you would have to do what is usual with CD-R and multisession: c=$(cdrskin dev=/dev/hda -msinfo 2/dev/null) mkisofs ... -C $c -M dev/hda ... | cdrskin dev=/dev/hda -multi -tao ... The libburnia project is quite near to releasing an integrated multi-session tool which would be able to do parts of your above sketch. For the remaining days - or if you have had enough adventure - i would advise you to either use above cdrskin gesture or to go back to growisofs which will do the same more conveniently. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dvd+rw-tools] problem erasing DVD+RW
Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, on_: I'm having problems with a few of my DVD+RW, after only 1 to 3 burn Joerg Schilling: To erase, use a _recent_ cdrecord and call cdrecord blank=fast Now i am curious what SCSI commands you issue on a DVD+RW for blanking it fast. See the release notes... Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dvd+rw-tools] problem erasing DVD+RW
Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * formatting .:-[ FORMAT UNIT failed with SK=5h/ASC=22h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error Quite a strange error 5 22 00 ILLEGAL FUNCTION What can I do to erase and reuse these DVD+RW? Those individual media might be dead now. Itis _extremely_ unlikely that the medium is dead. dvd+rw tools did just ussue a bad SCSI command ;-) Switch to cdrecord ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Eric Wanchic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summarizing a Long story: I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy, and I've been working/researching for almost one week on how to create a multisession DVD+R for backing up. I've moved from growisofs to genisoimage to wodim, genisoimage is extremely buggy and should be avoided, use mkisofs. wodim does not even support to write DVD+R correctly at all. finally to cdrecord cdrecord 2.01.01a37. I manually installed cdrecord 2.01.01a37 from smake. I seem to be able to create the first track with mkisofs and burn with cdrecord. It is mountable and readable. But when I get ready to do the second track with cdrecord -msinfo dev=3,0,0; it states: cdrecord: Cannot read first writable address I internally have a multiborder aware version of cdrecord but this has not yet been published. Cdrecord did not write the medium in a way that allows appending - see cdrecord -info output. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 10:21:48AM -0600, Eric Wanchic wrote: Slight install issue :( I tried a simple command: cdrskin and recieved this error: cdrskin: error while loading shared libraries: libburn.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory If this is on Linux, check the /etc/ld.so.conf file, and make sure the location of the shared libraries is in there. Then, if you change that file, run ldconfig. (See man ld.so and man ldconfig.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dvd+rw-tools] problem erasing DVD+RW
Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, on_: I'm having problems with a few of my DVD+RW, after only 1 to 3 burn Joerg Schilling: To erase, use a _recent_ cdrecord and call cdrecord blank=fast Now i am curious what SCSI commands you issue on a DVD+RW for blanking it fast. The source is available, look at any of his last ten messages ;-) I'd like to know if it worked any better. -- E. Robert Bogusta It seemed like a good idea at the time -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] whined again and trolled: I think [1] is a hint, I bet you used a vendor hack of growisofs instead of downloading and building the real program from source. That doesn't mean I promise it will work for you, just that you know what you have. Oh, and it works for me, one session, multi-session, DVD-R, DVD+R, etc, etc. growisofs is a dead project as the whole cdrkit is dead. As you have already noted, you were thinking of some other software which has nothing to do with anything I said. You didn't apologize for bringing up something utterly unrelated to what I said, you called it a typo. I would say the same thing about cdrecord, while wodim has fixed many wodim did not fix single problem from cdrecord, but it introduced _many_ bugs that never have been in the original. [ many incorrect claims removed ] Since you removed them I conclude that you could not refute a single one of them, since every problem can be easily replicated. Why don't you just *fix* the issues I mentioned, and everyone would be happy. These are the reasons why wodim even exists, because you not only refuse to fix these problems, or accept the fixes others have made, you refuse to admit the problems exist, when anyone with a computer can verify them. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Hi, Eric Wanchic: Looks Great ! TAO was executed. Rob Bogus: Thomas, perhaps you can clarify the SAO vs. TAO options and actual Actually it is a packet write type. TAO and SAO are rather aliases for a certain behavior as it is known from good old CD media. With DVD+R there is only this one write type. cdrskin calls TAO a run without pre-announced size and SAO a run with such an announcement. MMC-5 4.3.6.2.2 The Host views a DVD+R fragment as a fixed packet track where the packet size is 16. The following text describes command RESERVE TRACK as optional for reserving a fixed track size. Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP That must have been wodim or cdrecord. cdrskin has no DVD DL support yet. So LAYER_JUMP is not among its announcements. Total size: 18 MB (02:05.93) = 9295 sectors This might be one of the reasons why growisofs proposes to do that strange growisofs -M /dev/dvd=/dev/zero I had no propblems with appendable or partially filled DVD+R. But my images were a bit larger than 18 MB. If you omit option -multi with cdrskin, then the media will get closed by a MMC command CLOSE SESSION, 101b, Finalize with minimal radius. which is described in the specs as In order to assure maximum interchange compatibility with read only devices, Guard Zone 2 shall be recorded to a device defined PSN that approximates a disc radius of 30 mm. Suggested value: 70DE0h (462 304). That looks somewhat like 900 MB minimum size. Nevertheless strange that a burner drive will not mount smaller images. What happens if you count the readable bytes from _not_ mounted media: dd if=/dev/hda bs=32K | wc Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Eric Wanchic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/sdc1/raws# cdrskin dev=/dev/scd0 -v padsize=300k -multi -tao track_01.iso cdrskin 0.4.2 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn cdrskin: verbosity level : 1 cdrskin: NOTE : greying out all drives besides given dev='/dev/sr0' cdrskin: scanning for devices ... cdrskin: ... scanning for devices done cdrskin: beginning to burn disc cdrskin: status 1 burn_disc_blank The drive holds a blank disc Current: DVD+R Track 01: data17 MB padsize: 300 KB Total size: 18 MB (02:05.93) = 9295 sectors Lout start: 18 MB (02:07/93) = 9295 sectors Starting to write CD/DVD at speed MAX in real TAO mode for multi session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 18 of 18 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 99%] 0.6x. cdrskin: thank you for being patient since 22 seconds Fixating... cdrskin: working post-track (burning since 41 seconds) Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 18728960/19038208 (9296 sectors). Writing time: 41.533s Cdrskin: fifo had 9145 puts and 9145 gets. Cdrskin: fifo was 0 times empty and 3253 times full, min fill was 99%. Min drive buffer fill was 99% cdrskin: burning done Looks Great ! TAO was executed. Please don't get confused by this incorrect program output. DVDs do not support TAO recording. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Hi, There is nothing on the disk? I can mount it, but there is nothing there. Pitfall theory: Did you eject it and load it again ? Possibly the block device did not take notice that there are data available now. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Hi, okscratch that. Test 4 was mountable but no output too. I moved out of my mounted directory and back into it again...files. I remounted Test 5...files. Thats strange. Ouchers. Either your drive or your operating system is severely challenged with a 18 MB DVD+R which is not closed. Let's hope it is only the os. :)) That's bad!? Indeed. It would mean you cannot reliably work with mkisofs or genisoimage which read the old ISO image info via the block device. More hope will be with soon-to-come xorriso which uses libburn for reading and thus needs the block device only for tunneling SCSI commands. But if the drive is confused, then this will hardly help. One clumsy remedy could be to write as first track at least one GB of dummy data to media. How about this for the first track: cdrskin dev=/dev/scd0 -v tsize=1000m \ -multi track_01.iso (It is recommended to leave the -tao/-sao decision to cdrskin) Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Burning multisession DVD+R with cdrecord 2.01.01a37
Eric Wanchic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, man all of you guys are awesome! Thanks. I'm still having issues, Thomas Schmitt: - I've got some more stuff, but as soon as I post this, I'll write another one mentioning what I've done so far. Thanks (^_^) Please note that Thomas (in contrary to the people who created the wodim fork) writes own software but unfortunately his software is non-portable and only works on Linux. All my software works on all known platforms. Well, Linux is the post popular open platform, but Solaris is the second popular open platform and Thomas software does not work on Solaris. Also note that even the idea of writing a CD/DVD writing _library_ is based on a privileges missconception that is only present on Linux. Even Linux only allows a limited subset of what cdrecord supports if you do not have root privileges. The idea of having such a library comes from GUI people that like to _include_ the CD/DVD writing features into their GUI, but they do not understand that this cannot be done on all platforms but Linux for security reasons. On Linux it only works in a limited way because Linux ignores some security issues. There exist several similar attempts on writing libraries for tasks that cannot exist on platorms other than Linux because other platforms better check privileges/security. All these other libraries are derivates from cdrtools code and all also have license problems. This makes a lot of functionality seen in GNOME on Linux illegal because of license violations and non-portable because of privileges violations. I write a lot of software and I give long term support, the oldest OSS program I wrote (star) is from 1982. Doing this for many platforms takes more time but also gives better code quality. Bill Davidson: That's some good advice about root permissions and issues. I think I'm running in root. I have the root account disabled (defaulted in ubuntu) and I am executing everything in sudo -i environment. I see [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I'm sure I am root, but if I'm wrong please correct my errors. Bill _was_ a respected person ~ 7 years ago. He did have a lot of knowledge and he was helpful in his replies. Aprox. 2-3 years ago, he converted into a troll and frequently gives incorrect replies even though he has been corrected many times. I recommend not to believe him. You need root privileges for cdrecord _and_ you need to have them for wodim also if you like to do the same things. This is a result of the constraints set up by the Linux kernel. I would be happy to see him stop trolling and to come back to real life again. Joerg Schilling: I am but a humbled student here among respected teachers. I've read a lot, mostly your view points, about this whole licensing mess, the It is hard to explain complex legal issues if other people before did spread FUD and used oversimplified and wrong phrases that look correct only because they are oversimplified. If you like to verify legal claims, you need to check the possible results of these claims for many different use cases (this is really similar to thinking about possible failure cases on software). I did already explain why the main claim from the Debian people is wrong: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html#license There is another claim that (if it was correct) would make 50% of all software illegal on Linux and it would completely disallow non-GPL software on Linux. It is obvious, that GPL interpretations that make _all_ software illegal cannot be right. The main problem with Debian is that they never ask lawyers, even in critical situations. All legal claims from Debian are claims from laymen. Multi-border aware? I'm not sure what that is, but it sounds like your still working on that. I'll be patiently waiting then :) Cdrecord did not write the medium in a way that allows appending - see cdrecord -info output. Didn't I wrote -minfo? And btw: Multi-border is the official name for DVD handling for what people call multi session. -info-output switch. I think I posted my -minfo. Did you want me to burn another CD again and copy its output? Just let me know what you need. Thanks I know how to write Multi-border DVDs, I did this a year ago already. I cannot put it yet into the official cdrecord for stabiltiy reasons. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
