Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your operating system seems to be a kernel 2.4. 2.4.33 kernel.org On modern 2.6 it is supposed that one can write to the formatted area of BD-RE via the plain block device. dd if=test.iso of=/dev/sr0 bs=32K On kernel 2.4 this would work with DVD-RAM. No idea whether your kernel will accept BD-RE. On BD-RE it fails with $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/scd0 bs=32k dd: opening `/dev/scd0': Read-only file system $ it works ok on DVD-RAM media. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/cdrskin-0.4.5.tar.gz MD5: 2ae5d8f06d4847f5436bb99441dfc5cd After compilation and install it should report on $ cdrskin -version Version timestamp : 2008.04.10.211529 $ cdrskin -version cdrskin 0.4.5 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn Cdrecord 2.01-Emulation Copyright (C) 2006-2008, see libburnia-project.org libburn interface : 0.4.5 libburn in use: 0.4.5 cdrskin version : 0.4.5 Version timestamp : 2008.04.10.211926 Build timestamp : -none-given- it now works ok cdrskin 0.4.5 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn cdrskin: verbosity level : 1 cdrskin: NOTE : greying out all drives besides given dev='/dev/sg1' cdrskin: scanning for devices ... cdrskin: ... scanning for devices done cdrskin: beginning to burn disc cdrskin: status 1 burn_disc_blank The drive holds a blank disc Current: BD-RE Track 01: data 5259 MB padsize: 1024 KB Total size: 5260 MB (598:33.38) = 2693354 sectors Lout start: 5260 MB (598:35/38) = 2693354 sectors Starting to write CD/DVD at speed MAX in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. cdrskin: thank you for being patient since 1 seconds Starting new track at sector: 0 ... ... cdrskin: thank you for being patient since 1278 seconds Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 5514940416/5515988992 (2693354 sectors). Writing time: 1278.935s Cdrskin: fifo had 2692842 puts and 2692842 gets. Cdrskin: fifo was 0 times empty and 323524 times full, min fill was 99%. Min drive buffer fill was 20% cdrskin: burning done Speed is the same as with cdrecord and growisofs, 1x instead of 2x, I think this is due to verification/defect detection. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
Hi, i wrote: Your operating system seems to be a kernel 2.4. Giulio Orsero wrote: 2.4.33 kernel.org $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/scd0 bs=32k dd: opening `/dev/scd0': Read-only file system It works ok on DVD-RAM media. I think it is less intrusive to work with a burn program than to upgrade the kernel which probably regards BD-RE as fat data CD-ROM. So let's see whether we can get cdrskin-0.4.5 to success. I read MMC-5 for disabling write error detection in order to get full speed. That topic is scattered all over the document. Two possible paths of exploration appear for now: - Format the media with certification and use WRITE12 with streaming bit. This would give the drive chances to skip the error detection reading and it would give it a hint that speed is critical. - Format the media with no spare area. This would take away the chance to correct errors and maybe disable the costly detection of errors. That would be format 31h. Did you already post the format capacities section from the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo ? With a DVD-RAM that looks like: READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 2236704*2048=4580769792 00h(800): 2236704*2048=4580769792 00h(800): 2295072*2048=4700307456 01h(800): 2226976*2048=4560846848 01h(800): 2217248*2048=4540923904 I would be interested in the availability of formats 30h(...) and 31h(...) The path with streaming bit on certified media can possibly be explored with DVD-RAM. Formatting without spare area is not described for DVD-RAM but might hide behind this format descriptor 00h(800): 2295072*2048=4700307456 which offers a suspiciously large payload capacity. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
Hi, Giulio Orsero: I formatted the media using dvd+rw-format with default/standard options (ie: didn't use any command line option) Did you have technical indications that freshly purchased media need to be formatted prior to first usage ? I.e. did you ever test to write them out of the box ? Did that fail ? (DVD-RAM are sold formatted. They work immediately.) READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 11826176*2048=24220008448 00h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000): 11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000): 12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 This gives room for both my ideas. it [cdrskin] now works ok Great. This gives the foundation for more experiments. Speed is the same as with cdrecord and growisofs, 1x instead of 2x, I think this is due to verification/defect detection. 4314915 bytes per second. With 24220008448 bytes this would make more than one and a half hour. :( I'll begin with an experiment on WRITE12 and streaming bit. Later we can explore formatting stunts. I'll test with my DVD-RAM first and will inform you when a development tarball is uploaded. To Andy and Joerg: Do you have any other ideas how to circumvent the hardware error detection with DVD-RAM and BD-RE ? Or do you have any other theory what makes both types so slow ? Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you already post the format capacities section from the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo ? I formatted the media using dvd+rw-format with default/standard options (ie: didn't use any command line option) INQUIRY:[HL-DT-ST][BD-RE BE06LU10 ][YE03] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION: Mounted Media: 43h, BD-RE Media ID: LGEBRE/S01 Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8992KB/s Write Speed #0:2.0x4495=8992KB/s GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE: Write Performance: 2.0x4495=8992KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11826175] Speed Descriptor#0:02/11826175 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s BD SPARE AREA INFORMATION: Spare Area:393216/393216=100.0% free READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: formatted: 11826176*2048=24220008448 00h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000): 11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000): 11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000): 12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB Track Size:11826176*2KB FABRICATED TOC: Track#1 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Track#AA : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multi-session Info:[EMAIL PROTECTED] READ CAPACITY: 11826176*2048=24220008448 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Giulio Orsero: I formatted the media using dvd+rw-format with default/standard options (ie: didn't use any command line option) Did you have technical indications that freshly purchased media need to be formatted prior to first usage ? I.e. did you ever test to write them out of the box ? Did that fail ? I tried using cdrecord and it basically errored out sayng this need to be formatted. I'm going to do it but then it failed (on the list I read cdrecord will be updated to be able to format BD-RE media soon). So I formatted with dvd+rw-format and then cdrecord started writing to it. dvd+rw-format formatted it without complaining, if I retry now it says it's already formatted and I need to use lengthly complete formatting using -format=full (which I didn't use the 1st time) The media is the one included with the burner; I will receive different media in a few days. This is the diff between output of dvd+rw-mediainfo with new media and after I formatted it: --- dvd+mediainfo.blank 2008-03-31 18:18:43.0 +0200 +++ dvd+mediainfo.formattato2008-04-01 15:48:55.0 +0200 @@ -5,23 +5,29 @@ Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8992KB/s Write Speed #0:2.0x4495=8992KB/s GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE: - Write Performance: 2.0x4495=8992KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 12219391] - Speed Descriptor#0:02/12219391 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s + Write Performance: 2.0x4495=8992KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11826175] + Speed Descriptor#0:02/11826175 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s +BD SPARE AREA INFORMATION: + Spare Area:393216/393216=100.0% free READ DISC INFORMATION: - Disc status: blank + Disc status: complete Number of Sessions:1 - State of Last Session: empty - Next Track: 1 + State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: - unformatted: 12219392*2048=25025314816 + formatted:11826176*2048=24220008448 00h(3000):11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000):11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000):11564032*2048=23683137536 30h(1000):12088320*2048=24756879360 31h(800): 12219392*2048=25025314816 READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]: - Track State: blank + Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB - Track Size:0*2KB + Track Size:11826176*2KB +FABRICATED TOC: + Track#1 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Track#AA : [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Multi-session Info:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +READ CAPACITY: 11826176*2048=24220008448 --- cdrecord.minfo.blank2008-03-31 18:17:59.0 +0200 +++ cdrecord.minfo.formattato 2008-04-01 15:49:37.0 +0200 @@ -35,17 +35,36 @@ Supported modes: PACKET SAO LAYER_JUMP Drive buf size : 2359296 = 2304 KB Drive pbuf size: 3932160 = 3840 KB -Drive DMA Speed: 13496 kB/s 76x CD 9x DVD 3x BD -Current Secsize: 0 +Drive DMA Speed: 13059 kB/s 74x CD 9x DVD 2x BD +Current Secsize: 2048 Disk type: 'BDW' (BD-RE) Disk class: 02 Manufacturer: 'LGEBRE' Media type: 'S01' Disk: is not in cartridge Media cartrige: write protect is off +Free Spare Blocks: 393216 +Alloc Spare Blocks: 393216 +rzone size: 40 +rzone number: 1 +border number: 1 +ljrs: 0 +track mode: 4 copy: 0 +damage: 0 +reserved track: 0 blank: 0 incremental: 0 fp: 0 +data mode: 1 +lra valid: 0 +nwa valid: 0 +rzone start:0 +next wr addr: 0 +free blocks:0 +blocking factor:32 +rzone size: 11826176 +last recorded addr: 0 +read compat lba:0 Capacity Blklen/Sparesz. Format-type Type -1221939220480 0x00 Unformated or Blank Media +1182617612288 0x00 Formatted Media 1182617612288 0x00 Reserved (0) 1182617612288 0x30 Reserved (0) 1156403220480 0x30 Reserved (0) @@ -55,8 +74,8 @@ Mounted media type: BD-RE Disk Is erasable data type:standard -disk status: empty -session status: empty +disk status: complete +session status: complete BG format status: none first track: 1 number of sessions: 1 @@ -67,5 +86,7 @@ Track Sess Type Start Addr End Addr Size == -1 1 Blank 0 -1 0 -1 +1 1 Data 0 11826175 11826176 -1 +Last session start address: 0 +Last session leadout start address: 11826176 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
Hi, READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: - unformatted: 12219392*2048=25025314816 + formatted:11826176*2048=24220008448 Ahum. Looks really like initial formatting is needed. I had a look into dvd+rw-format.cpp. fprintf (stderr,- you have the option to re-run %s with:\n -format=full to perform (lengthy) Full Certification;\n -ssa[=none|default|max|XXX[GM]]\n to eliminate or adjust Spare Area.\n, argv[0]); It seems you could make an experiment with format 31h (i.e. no spare area) by dvd+rw-format option -ssa=none It might also be worth to check the impact of certification on write error detection. I.e.: -format=full I understand from MMC specs that certification is a read process which evaluates the quality of data recording and eventually records bad spots in a list. It is unclear to me whether this list resides permanently on media. But if we are lucky, the drive trusts the certified blocks and refrains from reading them after write. If we are a bit less lucky, then we need command WRITE12 rather than the usual WRITE10. Hopefully the formatting will not damage the only media you have. :) I would propose to try both. It would be most economic to do -ssa=none first, because i would expect it to be the most likely to omit error detection on traditional WRITE10 (SCSI command 2Ah). With -format=full i would possibly expect that WRITE12 (command AAh) is needed. There seems to be a WRITE12 experiment ready in dvd+rw-tools-7.1/growisofs_mmc.cpp Maybe Andy Polykov already knows more about that topic. Andy ? Are you reading this ? Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odd message from cdrecord
cdrecord 2.01.01a35 (built from source), USB attached litescribe drive, TDK 16x DVD-R media. Recording is refused with a message DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 16x. Since growisofs writes at 12x just fine (9.8x overall, 12x outer tracks) clearly there is an issue of some kind with deciding which speed to use, and speeds of 6x as working. This is just FYI, I only use this setup to burn complete DVD images from precreated files (mkisofs+dvdisaster) and this isn't keeping me from backing up old data. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems you could make an experiment with format 31h (i.e. no spare area) by dvd+rw-format option -ssa=none It took under a minute: --- dvd+mediainfo.formattato2008-04-01 15:48:55.0 +0200 +++ dvd+mediainfo.ssa=none 2008-04-11 14:54:06.0 +0200 @@ -5,17 +5,15 @@ Current Write Speed: 2.0x4495=8992KB/s Write Speed #0:2.0x4495=8992KB/s GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE: - Write Performance: 2.0x4495=8992KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11826175] - Speed Descriptor#0:02/11826175 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s -BD SPARE AREA INFORMATION: - Spare Area:393216/393216=100.0% free + Write Performance: 2.0x4495=8992KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 12219391] + Speed Descriptor#0:02/12219391 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s READ DISC INFORMATION: Disc status: complete Number of Sessions:1 State of Last Session: complete Number of Tracks: 1 READ FORMAT CAPACITIES: - formatted:11826176*2048=24220008448 + formatted:12219392*2048=25025314816 00h(3000):11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(3000):11826176*2048=24220008448 30h(5000):11564032*2048=23683137536 @@ -25,9 +23,9 @@ Track State: complete Track Start Address: 0*2KB Free Blocks: 0*2KB - Track Size:11826176*2KB + Track Size:12219392*2KB FABRICATED TOC: Track#1 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Track#AA : [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Track#AA : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multi-session Info:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -READ CAPACITY: 11826176*2048=24220008448 +READ CAPACITY: 12219392*2048=25025314816 And now I can write at 2x! Thanks, I didn't think about that (ssa=none) cdrskin 0.4.5 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn cdrskin: verbosity level : 1 cdrskin: NOTE : greying out all drives besides given dev='/dev/sg1' cdrskin: scanning for devices ... cdrskin: ... scanning for devices done cdrskin: beginning to burn disc cdrskin: status 1 burn_disc_blank The drive holds a blank disc Current: BD-RE Track 01: data 5259 MB padsize: 1024 KB Total size: 5260 MB (598:33.37) = 2693353 sectors Lout start: 5260 MB (598:35/37) = 2693353 sectors Starting to write CD/DVD at speed MAX in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. ... Track 01: 5260 of 5260 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 98%] 2.3x. ^Mcdrskin: thank you for being patient since 548 seconds Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 5514938368/5515986944 (2693353 sectors). Writing time: 548.333s Cdrskin: fifo had 2692841 puts and 2692841 gets. Cdrskin: fifo was 0 times empty and 270236 times full, min fill was 99%. Min drive buffer fill was 43% cdrskin: burning done 9.5 MB/sec ! It might also be worth to check the impact of certification on write error detection. I.e.: -format=full I think my kernel is too old, it exit after just 1 second: $ dvd+rw-format -format=full /dev/cdrom * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 7.1. * 25.0GB BD media detected. * formatting 0.0|:-[ FORMAT UNIT failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN PARAMETER LI ST]: Input/output error $ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd message from cdrecord
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord 2.01.01a35 (built from source), USB attached litescribe drive, TDK 16x DVD-R media. Recording is refused with a message DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 16x. Since growisofs writes at 12x just fine (9.8x overall, 12x outer tracks) clearly there is an issue of some kind with deciding which speed to use, and speeds of 6x as working. Just follow the instructions in the error message. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd message from cdrecord
Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord 2.01.01a35 (built from source), USB attached litescribe drive, TDK 16x DVD-R media. Recording is refused with a message DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 16x. Since growisofs writes at 12x just fine (9.8x overall, 12x outer tracks) clearly there is an issue of some kind with deciding which speed to use, and speeds of 6x as working. Just follow the instructions in the error message. Since other software is able to write at higher speed than 6X I'll just use the fastest program available. I thought you might be interested in why it underestimates the DMA capabilities by at least 2x, I wasn't looking for hints on how to make burning take twice as long by running at a lower speed. With a disk plugged into that port I can get sustained write of 43MB/s, so it would appear that the hardware is capable of 16x operation and something is making cdrecord believe otherwise. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Announcing cdrskin-0.4.4
Hi, i wrote: (i.e. no spare area) by dvd+rw-format option -ssa=none Giulio Orsero wrote: It took under a minute: And now I can write at 2x! Thanks, I didn't think about that (ssa=none) Thanks to dvd+rw-format and 04h FORMAT UNIT Format Type 31h. This downgrades a BD-RE to kindof DVD+RW with 25 GB. You lose defect management. I understand that it is considered necessary because 25 GB media have a high risk to contain a bad spot somewhere. So it might be appealing to explore the ways with certifying formatting. If we can talk that into running at full speed by help of AAh WRITE12 then this would give us the opportunity to repair bad spots by re-formatting. I understand dvd+rw-format -format=full will apply 04h FORMAT UNIT Format Type 30h Sub Type 10b: Full Certification: The entire data area shall be certified. The defect tables shall be initialized with defects discovered during the certification process. I hope to have opportunity to check your BD-RE results over the weekend with DVD-RAM. Maybe i can make more proposals then. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd message from cdrecord
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord 2.01.01a35 (built from source), USB attached litescribe drive, TDK 16x DVD-R media. Recording is refused with a message DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 16x. Since growisofs writes at 12x just fine (9.8x overall, 12x outer tracks) clearly there is an issue of some kind with deciding which speed to use, and speeds of 6x as working. Just follow the instructions in the error message. Since other software is able to write at higher speed than 6X I'll just use the fastest program available. I thought you might be interested in star is the fastest program... you are missinterpreting messages why it underestimates the DMA capabilities by at least 2x, I wasn't looking for hints on how to make burning take twice as long by running at a lower speed. With a disk plugged into that port I can get sustained write of 43MB/s, so it would appear that the hardware is capable of 16x operation and something is making cdrecord believe otherwise. I cannot help if your DVD drive is slow or has other deficits that make the DMA speed test reporting too low numbers. This is not a cdrecord problem but a problem of your hardware or your OS. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd message from cdrecord
Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord 2.01.01a35 (built from source), USB attached litescribe drive, TDK 16x DVD-R media. Recording is refused with a message DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 16x. Since growisofs writes at 12x just fine (9.8x overall, 12x outer tracks) clearly there is an issue of some kind with deciding which speed to use, and speeds of 6x as working. Just follow the instructions in the error message. Since other software is able to write at higher speed than 6X I'll just use the fastest program available. I thought you might be interested in star is the fastest program... you are missinterpreting messages I didn't know star could burn DVDs, it doesn't seem to be documented. why it underestimates the DMA capabilities by at least 2x, I wasn't looking for hints on how to make burning take twice as long by running at a lower speed. With a disk plugged into that port I can get sustained write of 43MB/s, so it would appear that the hardware is capable of 16x operation and something is making cdrecord believe otherwise. I cannot help if your DVD drive is slow or has other deficits that make the DMA speed test reporting too low numbers. This is not a cdrecord problem but a problem of your hardware or your OS. Since the hardware and the OS work at higher speeds with outer software, it's clear that cdrecord is making an incorrect estimate of the hardware capabilities. Since you seem uninterested in investigating why that happens I'll continue using software which can make better estimates of the hardware. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woe unto the statesman who makes war without a reason that will still be valid when the war is over... Otto von Bismark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]