Re: New tool for packing files into an ISO image

2012-01-09 Thread Bill Davidsen

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 18:50:46 -0800
BitBucket wrote:

   

Tom:

I'm a bit behind the curve (as a matter of policy, mostly).  What would be
an 'old' tool for packing files into an ISO image that you were improving
upon?  Looking for Windows GUI-based tools here, to pack offloads onto DVDs.
 

As far as I know, there is no old tool for doing this. This one is
new because I just wrote it, not because it replicates the function
of some old tool (at least I couldn't find any existing tool
or I probably wouldn't have written this one :-).


   
There is a useful tool for determining what will fit on a media size, 
and it has been around. since the mid 1990s, called breaker. It takes as 
input a list of items and sizes, such as are creates by

  ls -s | sort -n
or
  du -S | sort -n
and you provide the size of the media, optional rounding up in size of 
each item, optional fixed overhead per item (tar/cpio headers), and have 
options to generate a file list inone-file-per-media format and 
optionally use a format suitable for the "graftpoints" option in cdrecord.


It's still on public.tmr.com as source, I started it before CD burners 
were common and I was backing up a massice 600MB drive to 60MB takes. 
The problem hasn't changed, the numbers have just gotten bigger. :-(


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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination.  -me, 2010




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Re: cdrskin: how to get quick BD-RE format?

2012-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

> >  blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off
> Ok, but this is not "automatic" as as_needed, right?

Well ... the manual says one can combine it with other blank= options.
Interesting challenge. So i try:

  $ cdrskin -vv dev=/dev/sr3 \
blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off blank=as_needed
  ...
  cdrskin: status 1 burn_disc_blank "The drive holds a blank disc"
  Current: BD-RE
  cdrskin: NOTE : blank=as_needed : no need for action detected
  $

Looks ok for the case of an already formatted disk. (-vv causes the "NOTE"
message in case of inaction.)

Be so kind and test with an unformatted BD-RE whether it is quicker
than blank=as_needed alone.
Note that the sequence of blank= options matters here. First _cert_off,
then as_needed to override the unconditional aspect of _cert_off.


> So, first I should check with
> cdrskin -minfo -v 
> if
> disk status:  empty
> So as to format only when "empty".

In principle, yes.
I'd advise  --list_formats, though:

  $ cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr3 --list_formats 2>/dev/null | \
fgrep 'Format status'
  Format status: unformatted, up to 23866.0 MiB
  $

In contrast to
  Format status: formatted, with 23098.0 MiB


> Does this work for BD-R too?

Besides the fact that BD-R work unformatted too, "empty" should indeed
indicate a BD-R that is still formattable.

You will need option

  blank=format_if_needed

because blank=as_needed will be satisfied with seeing a blank BD-R (unlike
with BD-RE which cannot be used unformatted).

Option --list_formats yields:
Unused BD-R:
  Format status: unformatted, up to 23866.0 MiB
Unformatted used BD-R:
  Format status: written, with 9690.4 MiB
  BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 0 blocks available
Formatted used BD-R:
  Format status: written, with 13682.4 MiB
  BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 196608 blocks available


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: cdrskin: how to get quick BD-RE format?

2012-01-09 Thread Giulio
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:13:29 +0100, "Thomas Schmitt" 
wrote:

>Can it be you mean  blank=as_needed  ?
Yes.

>The matching cdrskin blank type of cdrskin for Sub-type 2 would be
>  blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off

Ok, but this is not "automatic" as as_needed, right?

So, first I should check with
cdrskin -minfo -v 
if
disk status:  empty
and if so I should issue
cdrskin blank=blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off -v -data ..
otherwise
cdrskin -v -data ...
right?

So as to format only when "empty".

Does this work for BD-R too?

>You may chose other format sizes by a further blank= option.
I'd like to leave it as automatic as possible, if
blank=blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off
if a good default I'll use it as is.

>The latter refers to the idx numbers as listed by
>  $ cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr3 --list_formats
Media current: BD-RE
Format status: formatted, with 23098.0 MiB
BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 393216 blocks available
Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB
Format idx 1 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB
Format idx 2 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB
Format idx 3 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB
Format idx 4 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB


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Re: cdrskin: how to get quick BD-RE format?

2012-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

> dvd+rw-format uses type 2 for "-format=full" and type 3 else.
> The matching cdrskin blank type of cdrskin for Sub-type 2 would be
>   blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off

I meant Sub-type 3, not 2.
Whatever: this option should format quicker than the default option.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: cdrskin: how to get quick BD-RE format?

2012-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

> Now I'm trying to do w/o dvd+rw-format, so I added
> format=as_needed
> to the cdrskin command line already used for burning, and taken out

Can it be you mean  blank=as_needed  ?
This applies default formatting to unformatted BD-RE.


> Now cdrskin will automatically format a blank BD-RE, but it's doing a full
> format (ie: more than 1 hour for a 2x BD-RE), while dvd+rw-format would do a
> quick (a few minutes if I remember correctly) format, just enough to get it
> going.

Probably the difference is in the Sub-type field of the FORMAT UNIT
command. dvd+rw-format uses type 2 for "-format=full" and type 3 else.

The matching cdrskin blank type of cdrskin for Sub-type 2 would be

  blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off

This formats to default size.

You may chose other format sizes by a further blank= option.
Like:
   blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off blank=format_defectmgt_payload_23610m
or
   blank=format_defectmgt_cert_off blank=format_by_index_2

The latter refers to the idx numbers as listed by
  $ cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr3 --list_formats
  ...
  BD Spare Area: 0 blocks consumed, 393216 blocks available
  Format idx 0 : 00h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB
  Format idx 1 : 01h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB
  Format idx 2 : 30h , 11826176s , 23098.0 MiB
  Format idx 3 : 30h , 11564032s , 22586.0 MiB
  Format idx 4 : 30h , 12088320s , 23610.0 MiB
  Format idx 5 : 31h , 12219392s , 23866.0 MiB

format_defectmgt_payload_... can be chosen quite freely. But extreme wishes
might lead to rejection of the FORMAT UNIT command by the drive.


> Should I try 
> format=format_if_needed
> instead?

For BD-RW this has the same effect as "as_needed".
It will make a difference with CD-RW (no action rather than blanking),
with DVD-RW (formatting rather than blanking), or unused BD-R (formatting
rather than no action).


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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cdrskin: how to get quick BD-RE format?

2012-01-09 Thread Giulio
cdrskin-1.1.8, Linux RHEL3

LG  BE06LU10/YE05

I used to check if the inserted media was an unformatted BD-RE and, if so,
I'd issue
dvd+rw-format /dev/cdrom
to format it before calling cdrskin to write to it.

Now I'm trying to do w/o dvd+rw-format, so I added
format=as_needed
to the cdrskin command line already used for burning, and taken out
"dvd+rw-format"

Now cdrskin will automatically format a blank BD-RE, but it's doing a full
format (ie: more than 1 hour for a 2x BD-RE), while dvd+rw-format would do a
quick (a few minutes if I remember correctly) format, just enough to get it
going.


Should I try 
format=format_if_needed
instead?

From reading the manual is't not clear to me when I would want to use
format_if_needed or as_needed when I want cdrsin to automatically format
BD-RE/BD-R is they are blank.

Thanks


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