Re: Re: unable to read some of a DVD contents

2005-05-16 Thread Kadir Wijaya
Yes. as Thomas and Volker pointed that the media is the one to be blamed.

I used better quality DVD, the most expensive one in the store :), and I've 5 
successful burns and all passed the integrity check.

Thanks for all your helps,
Kadir
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Re: Re: unable to read some of a DVD contents

2005-05-13 Thread scdbackup
Hi,

> what is the indicator that the burn process was only 95% completed?

The only reliable indicator seems to be checkreading
by all drives which shall be able to read the DVD.

This would mean either

- to compare each file on the DVD with its original
  on hard disk (if the files on disk did not change
  meanwhile)

- or to compare the data image on DVD with the data
  image on disk (if the image was stored on disk)

- or to compare the data image on DVD with a checksum
  which was made when that image was written to DVD.
  (I prefer this method.)


I just had to trash a previously used DVD-RW which
failed to pass the checksum test with errors at the
very start of the image. After a test re-write it
failed to deliver the last 2 MB (but the start of the
test image was ok). A third re-write yielded missing
300 MB at the end of the media.
The fourth try failed with 
   :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error
According to  keys.txt  : 
   3  73  03   POWER CALIBRATION AREA ERROR
(Not much idea what that means but it looks ugly and fatal) 

I successfully tested another DVD-RW from the same
spindle as the ill one. So the burner is not to blame.

It is not about the manufacturer of the media, not even
about the particular lot. It is not about the number of
re-uses. The sucessfull DVD-RW is in heavy test use, has
a nice collection of scratches ... and it works fine.
The ill one had its third or fourth re-use, looks shiny
and smooth ...

A theory which emphasizes the influence of moon phases or
geomantic radiation would probably be as successful as
the usual methods of DVD compatibilty prediction.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: Re: unable to read some of a DVD contents

2005-05-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I used verbose option and clearly see that the burn process was completed and 
> the session was closed.
> what is the indicator that the burn process was only 95% completed?

The burn was 100% completed at 95% quality. ;)

That's putting it colloquially of course. The burner is maladjusted to
the media, when all remaining tolerance for successful reading is
exceeded, you get a read error. What this really indicates however that
the whole process is very marginal with no space for future errors left.
Dump those disks, or at least don't expect them to still hold your
precious data in a few months. And even if they still work in a few
months, don't trust it.

Volker

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Re: Re: unable to read some of a DVD contents

2005-05-13 Thread The Wijaya



>>I've successfully burnt data (4 GB, around 
1 files) to a DVD. >>I saw that all the files have been burnt 
to DVD with exact size.>>However, I couldn't read some of the files 
(corrupted ?) and this happened randomly (i.e. I burnt another ten DVDs with the 
same contents and the corruptions >>happened on different 
files).>A clear indication that you did *not* burn succesfully (only 
95%>succesfully - as you see that's not good enough), or that the reader 
is>unable to read the burnt disk. Media incompatability in both cases, 
the>drive(s) can't adjust to the inserted media correctly. Try a 
different>media brand.>Volker
 
I used verbose option and clearly see that the burn 
process was completed and the session was closed.
what is the indicator that the burn process was 
only 95% completed?
I'll definitely try your suggestion with a 
different media brand.
 
thanks,
Kadir