Re: changing book-type on dvd burn?

2007-10-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Miles Fidelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I have a debian box and a Lite-On SHM-165PS cd/dvd drive.

 I'm having a devil of a time burning bootable DVDs - they seem to burn, 
 be readable, but when I try to boot, the system crunches a bit, the 
 drive lite flashes, then boots from the hard drive.  (It boots from CDs 
 just fine.)

Maybe you did use a broken mkisofs variant from Debian?

Did you try the official mkisofs from

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/


 It looks like the default software (Nautilus and whatever is behind 
 that) sets the book-type to DVD-ROM, and from what I gather by googling 
 a bit, that might be my problem - and that I'd have better luck if it 
 was setting book-type to DVD+R.  The other suggestion I've received is 
 to update the firmware on my drive.

If you suspect readability problems, run readcd meshpoints=20 and
check whether readcd reports errors or whether the read speed does not 
monotonically increasee.

 So... a few questions:

 - is that likely diagnosis?

no

 - if yes, how might I go about getting things to burn as book type DVD+R?

I am not sure what kind of software you really used for writing. I recommend to
use the original cdrecord and check again.

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

Jörg

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Re: changing book-type on dvd burn?

2007-10-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Miles Fidelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I like the firmware better, but it depends on your method of 
  *creating* the ISO images. non-bootable images are a more common 
  problem than book type.
 any suggestions on how to make sure I'm creating a bootable image - the 
 providers claim they are (I've now downloaded three different ISO images 
 that purport to be bootable - a SUSE LiveDCD, an xploraknoppix LiveDVD, 
 and a Solaris LiveDVD)

First try to write a (checked) bootable CD image to a DVD.

If this succeeds, then either the other images are defective or
the boot prom has problems with booting from higher block addresses
and the image was created with the wrong options.

Jörg

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Re: changing book-type on dvd burn?

2007-10-17 Thread Miles Fidelman

Joerg Schilling wrote:

Miles Fidelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
I like the firmware better, but it depends on your method of 
*creating* the ISO images. non-bootable images are a more common 
problem than book type.
  
any suggestions on how to make sure I'm creating a bootable image - the 
providers claim they are (I've now downloaded three different ISO images 
that purport to be bootable - a SUSE LiveDCD, an xploraknoppix LiveDVD, 
and a Solaris LiveDVD)



First try to write a (checked) bootable CD image to a DVD.

If this succeeds, then either the other images are defective or
the boot prom has problems with booting from higher block addresses
and the image was created with the wrong options.

  
I updated the firmware on the DVD drive and all is now working.  (pulled 
the drive, stuck it in my kids' windows box, ran the updater)


Thanks!

Miles


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Re: changing book-type on dvd burn?

2007-10-12 Thread Rob Bogus

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Hi Folks,

I have a debian box and a Lite-On SHM-165PS cd/dvd drive.

I'm having a devil of a time burning bootable DVDs - they seem to 
burn, be readable, but when I try to boot, the system crunches a bit, 
the drive lite flashes, then boots from the hard drive.  (It boots 
from CDs just fine.)


It looks like the default software (Nautilus and whatever is behind 
that) sets the book-type to DVD-ROM, and from what I gather by 
googling a bit, that might be my problem - and that I'd have better 
luck if it was setting book-type to DVD+R.  The other suggestion I've 
received is to update the firmware on my drive.


So... a few questions:

- is that likely diagnosis?


I like the firmware better, but it depends on your method of *creating* 
the ISO images. non-bootable images are a more common problem than book 
type.


- if yes, how might I go about getting things to burn as book type DVD+R?

and/or

- are there any linux tools that I can use to update the firmware 
(Lite-On seems to only distribute Windows tools)


There is, but not having used it in a very long time I can't be positive 
of the current state, or even what tool is maintained these days. The 
tool I remember was pxupdate from joerg Schilling, and he might be 
willing to tell you if it is current, where to get the recent version, etc.


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Re: changing book-type on dvd burn?

2007-10-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Rob Bogus wrote:

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Hi Folks,

I have a debian box and a Lite-On SHM-165PS cd/dvd drive.

I'm having a devil of a time burning bootable DVDs - they seem to 
burn, be readable, but when I try to boot, the system crunches a bit, 
the drive lite flashes, then boots from the hard drive.  (It boots 
from CDs just fine.)


It looks like the default software (Nautilus and whatever is behind 
that) sets the book-type to DVD-ROM, and from what I gather by 
googling a bit, that might be my problem - and that I'd have better 
luck if it was setting book-type to DVD+R.  The other suggestion I've 
received is to update the firmware on my drive.


So... a few questions:

- is that likely diagnosis?


I like the firmware better, but it depends on your method of 
*creating* the ISO images. non-bootable images are a more common 
problem than book type.
any suggestions on how to make sure I'm creating a bootable image - the 
providers claim they are (I've now downloaded three different ISO images 
that purport to be bootable - a SUSE LiveDCD, an xploraknoppix LiveDVD, 
and a Solaris LiveDVD)


I've tried burning with the default software included in Debian Etch 
(Nautilus file manager, right click).


I also just installed k3b and burned the SUSE LiveDVD again.  Same 
failure to boot.  Also looks like it burned as book-type DVD-ROM.


K3b, and whatever's behind it, seem smart enough to recognize that my 
drive can write DVD+R, but I can't quite figure out if there are config 
options I should be setting to:
- make the image bootable (e.g, do I need to set any of the el torito 
related parameters?)

- set the book type

Thanks again,

Miles


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Re: changing book-type on dvd burn? [SOLVED]

2007-10-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Rob Bogus wrote:

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Hi Folks,

I have a debian box and a Lite-On SHM-165PS cd/dvd drive.

I'm having a devil of a time burning bootable DVDs - they seem to 
burn, be readable, but when I try to boot, the system crunches a bit, 
the drive lite flashes, then boots from the hard drive.  (It boots 
from CDs just fine.)


- is that likely diagnosis?


I like the firmware better, but it depends on your method of 
*creating* the ISO images. non-bootable images are a more common 
problem than book type.
updating the firmware fixed the problem - turns out I was burning DVDs 
just fine, but the drive wasn't recognizing them


pulled the drive, stuck it in my kids' windows machine, ran the flash 
utility, put the drive back in my tower - and now it boots just fine


thanks all

Miles


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