Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Rob Bogus wrote: Since you posted all the other URLs for old versions, why did you not post the URL where you found this? Hi, It is the same URL . I just missed the file. Just grab the latest one. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Joerg Schilling wrote: Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent two mails in the past on this list about recording speed problems. I repost it here .. Hi, I have a NEC 3500 Dvd Writer. I have problems with the recording speed. I tried two different brand of dvd-r (one from princo that is certified for 4x recording, and one from philips that is certified for 8x), but cdrecord-ProDVD always writes the DVDs at 6x speed. Here is the output of the program; tell me if I can supply additional debugging data. newdeal:/pub/temp# cdrecord-dvd -dev=/dev/hdc -speed=4 -dao -data data.iso Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write6 seconds. If your drive does not support to write at speed 4x, you cannot. See man cdrecord and cdrecord -prcap Jörg Sorry, did not notice the thread hijacking. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does. See my new post about the problem. It concerns growisofs actually. The problem with cdrecord is another one : the fact that forcespeed/PoweRec is not settable when burning DVD. The option is not listed with driveropts=help -checkdrive. Why list options that do not apply? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the main problem is that often times a user is using a tool, such as k3b to attempt to burn the cd/dvd and in doing so don't know the version of cdrecord is not the original. Grant it, if you run the 'bastardized' version of cdrecord on the command line, you will see a message indicating as such. What they should do is make it very clear at install, that this version is not the original version. And I did already mention several times that the cdrecord variant with the DVD hack does no longer work properly for writing CDs. So if e.g. k3b always use the hacked version, there will be hard to catch bugs that would never ocur with the real cdrecord. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat 29 Jan 2005 01:52:15 NZDT +1300, Joerg Schilling wrote: Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Do not expect any such help from Jörg here. This list is not only for Jörg's software! (Although Jörg doesn't want to understand that.) The real problem is that people like you do not understand that it is the persons who claim to be responsible for the bastardizing hacks on cdrecord who just do not give help. If course, I am concerned from this problem when people claim they use cdrecord while they really use a bastardized variant. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Joerg Schilling wrote: If your drive does not support to write at speed 4x, you cannot. See man cdrecord and cdrecord -prcap Jörg It does. See my new post about the problem. It concerns growisofs actually. The problem with cdrecord is another one : the fact that forcespeed/PoweRec is not settable when burning DVD. The option is not listed with driveropts=help -checkdrive. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat 29 Jan 2005 01:52:15 NZDT +1300, Joerg Schilling wrote: Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Do not expect any such help from Jörg here. This list is not only for Jörg's software! (Although Jörg doesn't want to understand that.) The real problem is that people like you do not understand that it is the persons who claim to be responsible for the bastardizing hacks on cdrecord who just do not give help. If course, I am concerned from this problem when people claim they use cdrecord while they really use a bastardized variant. I think the main problem is that often times a user is using a tool, such as k3b to attempt to burn the cd/dvd and in doing so don't know the version of cdrecord is not the original. Grant it, if you run the 'bastardized' version of cdrecord on the command line, you will see a message indicating as such. What they should do is make it very clear at install, that this version is not the original version. -- Until later, Geoffrey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Joerg Schilling wrote: If you did not use cdrecord-ProDVD in the first case, then you did not use cdrecord but a hacked command that is NOT cdrecord. Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Jörg Put a sock in it! This mailing list is not reserved to your personal private versions of software. -- E. Robert Bogusta It seemed like a good idea at the time -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Rob Bogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: If you did not use cdrecord-ProDVD in the first case, then you did not use cdrecord but a hacked command that is NOT cdrecord. Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Jörg Put a sock in it! This mailing list is not reserved to your personal private versions of software. If you do not understand the mail you are replying to, you better stay quiet. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno sab, 29-01-2005 alle 01:08 +0100, Joerg Schilling ha scritto: If your drive does not support to write at speed 4x, you cannot. See man cdrecord and cdrecord -prcap The Nec 3500 supports dvd-r writing up to 16x (16x, 13x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x) With growisofs the drives writes correctly at the selected speed (tryed 8x, 6x, 4x) Please prove this via a useful cdrecord -prcap output. Here is the output of cdrecord-Prodvd -prcap (that, btw is incorrect, but it lists 4x as a choice, and I remember you from the previous post that cdrecord-ProDvd always writes at 6x ..) newdeal:/home/robs# cdrecord-dvd -prcap -dev=/dev/hdc Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A: Loading mechanism type: tray Does support ejection of CD via START/STOP command Does not lock media on power up via prevent jumper Does allow media to be locked in the drive via PREVENT/ALLOW command Is not currently in a media-locked state Does not support changing side of disk Does not have load-empty-slot-in-changer feature Does not support Individual Disk Present feature Maximum read speed: 8467 kB/s (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Current read speed: 8467 kB/s (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Maximum write speed: 8467 kB/s (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Current write speed: 8467 kB/s (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Rotational control selected: CLV/PCAV Buffer size in KB: 2048 Copy management revision supported: 1 Number of supported write speeds: 6 Write speed # 0: 8467 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Write speed # 1: 7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 40x, DVD 5x) Write speed # 2: 5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 32x, DVD 4x) Write speed # 3: 4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 24x, DVD 3x) Write speed # 4: 2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 16x, DVD 2x) Write speed # 5: 1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 8x, DVD 1x) It is _extremely_ unlikely that you had a useful DVD medium in the drive... Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Roberto Sebastiano wrote: I sent two mails in the past on this list about recording speed problems. I repost it here .. Hi, I have a NEC 3500 Dvd Writer. I have problems with the recording speed. I tried two different brand of dvd-r (one from princo that is certified for 4x recording, and one from philips that is certified for 8x), but cdrecord-ProDVD always writes the DVDs at 6x speed. Here is the output of the program; tell me if I can supply additional debugging data. newdeal:/pub/temp# cdrecord-dvd -dev=/dev/hdc -speed=4 -dao -data data.iso Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. Have you tried open source CD/DVD burning programs? This one clearly states that it has not completed upgrading to support the 2.6 kernel (unsettled issues) and something with source available will be easier to debug. -- E. Robert Bogusta It seemed like a good idea at the time -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Il giorno sab, 29-01-2005 alle 17:42 +0100, Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Nec 3500 supports dvd-r writing up to 16x (16x, 13x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x) With growisofs the drives writes correctly at the selected speed (tryed 8x, 6x, 4x) Please prove this via a useful cdrecord -prcap output. How can I prove this with -prcap if -prcap gives me the wrong values ? I can prove it with growisofs: newdeal:/pub/temp# growisofs -speed=8 -Z /dev/hdc=data.iso Executing 'builtin_dd if=data.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 8.2x1385KBps. while newdeal:/pub/temp# cdrecord-dvd -dev=/dev/hdc -speed=8 -sao -data data.iso -v Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: DVD-R sequential recording Profile: DVD+RW/DL Profile: DVD+R Profile: DVD+RW Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current) Profile: DVD-ROM Profile: CD-RW Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-ROM Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Drive buf size : 1769472 = 1728 KB FIFO size : 16777216 = 16384 KB Track 01: data 4466 MB Total size: 4466 MB = 2286800 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 WARNING: Phys disk size 2298496 differs from rzone size 2297888! Prerecorded disk? WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 2495103 Blocks total: 2297888 Blocks current: 2296848 Blocks remaining: 10048 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6 in real SAO mode for single session. Here is the output of cdrecord-Prodvd -prcap (that, btw is incorrect, but it lists 4x as a choice, and I remember you from the previous post that cdrecord-ProDvd always writes at 6x ..) newdeal:/home/robs# cdrecord-dvd -prcap -dev=/dev/hdc Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone cut Write speed # 0: 8467 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Write speed # 1: 7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 40x, DVD 5x) Write speed # 2: 5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 32x, DVD 4x) Write speed # 3: 4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 24x, DVD 3x) Write speed # 4: 2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 16x, DVD 2x) Write speed # 5: 1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 8x, DVD 1x) It is _extremely_ unlikely that you had a useful DVD medium in the drive... Jörg Yes, the drive was empty. Now this is the output of -atip and -prcap with a certified 8x dvd-r media inserted. newdeal:/home/robs# cdrecord-dvd -atip -dev=/dev/hdc Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO book type: DVD-R, Version 5 (2.5) disc size: 120mm (0) minimum rate:Not specified (15) number of layers:0 track path: Parallel Track Path (0) layer type: Rewritable Area (2) linear density: 0.267 µm/bit (0) track density: 0.74 µm/track (0) phys start: 196608 phys end:2495103 end layer 0: 0 bca: 0 phys size:...2298496 copyr prot type: 0 region mgt info: 0 application code:64 physical code: 193 last rec address:16621272 part v./ext code:5/2 ind wr. power: 136
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Rob Bogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried open source CD/DVD burning programs? This one clearly states that it has not completed upgrading to support the 2.6 kernel (unsettled issues) and something with source available will be easier to debug. If you do not understand what you are writing about, please stay quiet. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Il giorno sab, 29-01-2005 alle 17:42 +0100, Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Nec 3500 supports dvd-r writing up to 16x (16x, 13x, 12x, 8x, 6x, 4x, 2x) With growisofs the drives writes correctly at the selected speed (tryed 8x, 6x, 4x) Please prove this via a useful cdrecord -prcap output. How can I prove this with -prcap if -prcap gives me the wrong values ? Why should you get wrong values except when the drives firmware is broken? Write speed # 0: 8467 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 48x, DVD 6x) Write speed # 1: 7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 40x, DVD 5x) Write speed # 2: 5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 32x, DVD 4x) Write speed # 3: 4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 24x, DVD 3x) Write speed # 4: 2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 16x, DVD 2x) Write speed # 5: 1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD 8x, DVD 1x) It is _extremely_ unlikely that you had a useful DVD medium in the drive... Jörg Yes, the drive was empty. Now this is the output of -atip and -prcap with a certified 8x dvd-r media inserted. newdeal:/home/robs# cdrecord-dvd -atip -dev=/dev/hdc Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO book type: DVD-R, Version 5 (2.5) disc size: 120mm (0) minimum rate:Not specified (15) number of layers:0 track path: Parallel Track Path (0) layer type: Rewritable Area (2) linear density: 0.267 µm/bit (0) track density: 0.74 µm/track (0) phys start: 196608 phys end:2495103 end layer 0: 0 bca: 0 phys size:...2298496 copyr prot type: 0 region mgt info: 0 application code:64 physical code: 193 last rec address:16621272 part v./ext code:5/2 ind wr. power: 136 wavelength code: 13 write str. code: 0C 88 88 90 Manufacturer: 'FUJIFILM03' rzone number: 1 border number: 1 damage: 0 reserved: 0 blank: 1 incremental: 0 nwa valid: 1 rzone start:0 next wr addr: 0 free blocks:2298496 blocking factor:16 rzone size: 2298496 last recorded addr: 0 newdeal:/home/robs# cdrecord-dvd -prcap -dev=/dev/hdc Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A: Does read CD-R media Does write CD-R media Does read CD-RW media Does write CD-RW media Does read DVD-ROM media Does read DVD-R media Does write DVD-R media Does not read DVD-RAM media Does not write DVD-RAM media Does support test writing Does read Mode 2 Form 1 blocks Does read Mode 2 Form 2 blocks Does read digital audio blocks Does restart non-streamed digital audio reads accurately Does support Buffer-Underrun-Free recording Does read multi-session CDs Does read fixed-packet CD media using Method 2 Does not read CD bar code Does read R-W subcode information Does not return R-W subcode de-interleaved and error-corrected Does read raw P-W subcode data from lead in Does return CD media catalog number Does return CD ISRC information Does support C2 error pointers Does not deliver composite A/V data
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Joerg Schilling wrote: Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) Issue with driveropts detection of this drive: as root, with empty tray, 'cdrecord driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0' reports: Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology varirec=val Set VariRec Laserpower to -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 Only works for audio and if speed is set to 4 gigarec=val Set GigaRec capacity ratio to 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality media speedread Tell the drive to read as fast as possible nospeedread Disable to wead as fast as possible singlesession Tell the drive to behave as single session only drive nosinglesession Disable single session only mode hidecdr Tell the drive to hide CD-R media nohidecdr Disable hiding CD-R media This is from cdrecord. However, as root, WITH a DVD-/+R in it: Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. cdrecord: Found DVD media: using cdr_mdvd. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology ^^^ This is NOT from cdrecord. You cannot compare the behavior of cdrecord with a different command. Plase use cdrecord in _both_ cases and report again. Jörg Yes it is. It is the output of the exact same command: cdrecord driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: However, as root, WITH a DVD-/+R in it: Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. cdrecord: Found DVD media: using cdr_mdvd. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology ^^^ This is NOT from cdrecord. You cannot compare the behavior of cdrecord with a different command. Plase use cdrecord in _both_ cases and report again. Yes it is. It is the output of the exact same command: cdrecord driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 If you did not use cdrecord-ProDVD in the first case, then you did not use cdrecord but a hacked command that is NOT cdrecord. Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
If you did not use cdrecord-ProDVD in the first case, then you did not use cdrecord but a hacked command that is NOT cdrecord. Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Jörg I did not know that this list was reserved to the ProDVD version. How do you justify this ? I found this mailing-list on the dvd+rw-tools page: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ So I expect to find here the authors of the bastardized but Free implementations of cdrecord with DVD support. Anyway, I just tried cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu and I have the same problem. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you did not use cdrecord-ProDVD in the first case, then you did not use cdrecord but a hacked command that is NOT cdrecord. Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Jörg I did not know that this list was reserved to the ProDVD version. How do you justify this ? I found this mailing-list on the dvd+rw-tools page: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ So I expect to find here the authors of the bastardized but Free implementations of cdrecord with DVD support. The inofficial DVD patch for cdrecord is known to break cdrecord so I would not call it free, except free of benefit. Anyway, I just tried cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu and I have the same problem. ??? 1) cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu is outdated 2) Do you have a problem that you did not send in your mail? cdrecord definitely will not print the same as you did mail. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joerg Schilling wrote: The inofficial DVD patch for cdrecord is known to break cdrecord so I would not call it free, except free of benefit. Listen, I don't want to make a debate about what is free or not. I meant Free (with a capital F), as Free-software, not as free beer. I am enough aware of what is open-source and free software. You wrote this list was not for support of other versions than the ProDVD product. This is false, this list is a Debian list for CD writing in general, that is used by you, as the cdrecord author, but also by others (dvd+rw-tools, growisofs). So if I can bring any help for cdrecord, either the Free version, either your ProDVD proprietary version, I would be glad and everybody will benefit. But please don't try to be misleading. Anyway, I just tried cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu and I have the same problem. ??? 1) cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu is outdated Fair enough, but I followed the link that is on your own webpage: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html wich directs to: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord I cannot find any later version. Please provide a link so that I could try it. 2) Do you have a problem that you did not send in your mail? cdrecord definitely will not print the same as you did mail. With the cdrecord-prodvd I downloaded here: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu I get this exact output: ./cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited features: scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology Driver options specific to Plextor with a DVD-/+R in the drive do not appear. Regards, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb wrote: 1) cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu is outdated My mistake, I have found the latest version cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu and I shall report here. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I tried with cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 As root, without a media in the drive: ./cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited features: Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-1mdksmp Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you have unexpected problems, pleasetry Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology varirec=val Set VariRec Laserpower to -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 Only works for audio and if speed is set to 4 gigarec=val Set GigaRec capacity ratio to 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality media speedread Tell the drive to read as fast as possible nospeedread Disable to wead as fast as possible singlesession Tell the drive to behave as single session only drive nosinglesession Disable single session only mode hidecdr Tell the drive to hide CD-R media nohidecdr Disable hiding CD-R media With a DVD+R media in the drive: /cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited features: Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-1mdksmp Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you have unexpected problems, pleasetry Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The inofficial DVD patch for cdrecord is known to break cdrecord so I would not call it free, except free of benefit. Listen, I don't want to make a debate about what is free or not. I meant Free (with a capital F), as Free-software, not as free beer. I am enough aware of what is open-source and free software. Please do not start a useless flame war in this list! You wrote this list was not for support of other versions than the ProDVD product. This is false, this list is a Debian list for CD writing in general, that is used by you, as the cdrecord author, but also by others (dvd+rw-tools, growisofs). WRONG READ READ READ Nobody did ever give support for bastardized cdrecord versions. This has nothing to do with cdrecord-ProDVD but with the fact that the makers of the bastardized patches do not even care if the patch works at all :-( So if I can bring any help for cdrecord, either the Free version, either your ProDVD proprietary version, I would be glad and everybody will benefit. But please don't try to be misleading. If you have problem NAME them, I am sorry but I cannot help you if you do not tell me what your problem is. 1) cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu is outdated Fair enough, but I followed the link that is on your own webpage: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html wich directs to: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord I cannot find any later version. Please provide a link so that I could try it. I am sorry but you need at least to be able to deal with a simple FTP download. 2) Do you have a problem that you did not send in your mail? cdrecord definitely will not print the same as you did mail. With the cdrecord-prodvd I downloaded here: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu I get this exact output: ./cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited features: scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology Driver options specific to Plextor with a DVD-/+R in the drive do not appear. Again: What is your problem except from the fact that you did not read the documentation and thus use wrong parameters that result in a warning? What driver options do you expect to appear? Note that you did use the subject speed problems.. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried with cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 As root, without a media in the drive: ./cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: Limited features: Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-1mdksmp Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you have unexpected problems, pleasetry Linux-2.4 or Solaris. So you use a defektive kernel that has known problems with SCSI pass through. scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. So you still ignore the documentation. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: This version of cdrecord limits DVD-R/DVD-RW support to -dummy or 1 GB real. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: If you need full DVD-R/DVD-RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD. Desktop/cdrecord-prodvd-2.01.01-i686-pc-linux-gnu: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/ Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology varirec=val Set VariRec Laserpower to -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 Only works for audio and if speed is set to 4 gigarec=val Set GigaRec capacity ratio to 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality media speedread Tell the drive to read as fast as possible nospeedread Disable to wead as fast as possible singlesession Tell the drive to behave as single session only drive nosinglesession Disable single session only mode hidecdr Tell the drive to hide CD-R media nohidecdr Disable hiding CD-R media So what is your problem Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scsidev: 'ATA:1,0,0' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. So you still ignore the documentation. I am sorry, this was my faultthis is of cource correct. But things like this happen when people are trying to waste my time after I did already answer 200 mails. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joerg Schilling wrote: Please do not start a useless flame war in this list! Please, you are trying to do this, by misleading me that this list would bring no help about the problems, which is false. This list is also used by Andy, who is the author of dvd+rx-tools. READ READ READ Nobody did ever give support for bastardized cdrecord versions. This has nothing to do with cdrecord-ProDVD but with the fact that the makers of the bastardized patches do not even care if the patch works at all :-( Please do read what I wrote too. Fist of all, I have put on my very first message that the observations/problems I had DID concern SEVERAL authors: - k3b team - growisfs authors - dvd+rw-tools authors - cdrecord + dvd patches So don't ask me why I titled my post speed problems because obviously it may concern growisofs too. It was a GENERAL report of problems with the new PX716A, and I thought it may be interesting for coders related to DVD writing to hear about a new device. And I am not really interested in the war you may have with people who decided to fork cdrecord and apply new DVD patches. I am just here to report what I see, as far as my technical level allows me to do. If it may be of any help, I would be glad. Now for the specific point about the driver options: I was suprised that with a media in the drive, options like powerec (btw, it is not PowerRec but PoweRec as stated in the man page) or gigarec were not listed anymore. So are you going to give an answer, or do you prefer to leave me in the RTFM world, which I did first, of course, and where I did not find any answer ? Thanks. Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, PX-712 and 716 are wonderful drives. They offer the possibility to detect C1/C2 errors for CD-Rs, and PIO/PI/TA for DVDs to check burning quality. Reverse engineering would be very useful because it seems Plextor does not give any technical information about this. Alexander Noe has begun some work, using Bushound, to detect the commands, but he only writes Windows software, as far as I know (pxview/pxscan). You may contact him if you want to bring better support for these drives, he is very keen to share data. He sent me some code he uses for pxscan, I will ask him if I can spread it. All known, but there is OpenSolaris that takes useful time and there are people like you and the Linux kernel maintainers who steal my time. Wouldn't it be much more polite to just tell us what you like instead of starting a useless thread on an unmaintained patch on cdrrecord? I am in contact with Alexander and I already have code and I already did integrate GigaRec into cdrecord. Support for other Plextor specific features in in the queue for a long time and will definitely appear soon. If people would _help_ with my projects instead of starting flame wars, things could look different. But unfortunately today, people just sit and wait for new OS software to arrive for them instead of understaning the Open Source model and helping with what they can do. There is a lot of work to do and people (even those who are unable to program) could help alot if they just like. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joerg Schilling wrote: Wouldn't it be much more polite to just tell us what you like instead of starting a useless thread on an unmaintained patch on cdrrecord? Listen Jorg. I am not responsible if you had a bad day. So stop being rude. And don't make such assumptions, about the features I would like to see in cdrecord. That was not my point and you know it. I was just reporting general issues that I could have with my new drive. Here you try to put some fault on me. Useless ? Maybe not for everybody. The K3b team found it useful, on the contrary. I am in contact with Alexander and I already have code and I already did integrate GigaRec into cdrecord. Support for other Plextor specific features in in the queue for a long time and will definitely appear soon. If people would _help_ with my projects instead of starting flame wars, things could look different. But unfortunately today, people just sit and wait for new OS software to arrive for them instead of understaning the Open Source model and helping with what they can do. Understand that people are reluctant of supporting a proprietary, closed-source product. You made an excellent work with cdrecord, but I don't fancy taking time for helping a closed-source product, when at the same time other people, like Warly, write GPL code for this task. Sorry but this is a loss of time and efforts. You complain you don't have time because of OpenSolaris, but on the other hand you don't accpet other people, like warly, would help. This is crazy. So once again, READ posts before being rude, insulting people, and accuse them of not reading man pages when it is not the case. There is a lot of work to do and people (even those who are unable to program) could help alot if they just like. It is what I tried to do. The answer I got was don't expect to get help here. I was told I was not using cdrecord-prodvd, whereas I reported several times the output of it. I don't know if a lot of people would have my patience to explain and explain again their problem. And finally, you agreed that there was a problem... Have a good week-end, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I sent two mails in the past on this list about recording speed problems. I repost it here .. Hi, I have a NEC 3500 Dvd Writer. I have problems with the recording speed. I tried two different brand of dvd-r (one from princo that is certified for 4x recording, and one from philips that is certified for 8x), but cdrecord-ProDVD always writes the DVDs at 6x speed. Here is the output of the program; tell me if I can supply additional debugging data. newdeal:/pub/temp# cdrecord-dvd -dev=/dev/hdc -speed=4 -dao -data data.iso Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone Limited features: This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use cdrecord-ProDVD: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10 cdrecord-ProDVD: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord-ProDVD: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: '_NEC' Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG' Revision : '2.17' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 6 in real SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write6 seconds. Regards, -- Roberto Sebastiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Zeb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understand that people are reluctant of supporting a proprietary, closed-source product. You made an excellent work with cdrecord, but I Please go away you missending troll. It seems that you are completely unwilling to understand Open Source and are just one of these people who steal my time by starting useless flamewars by sending tons of lies about ny work and my projects. Unless you start a fruitful discussion now, I wil ignore you. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) chars I am Jorg Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joerg Schilling wrote: Please go away you missending troll. It seems that you are completely unwilling to understand Open Source and are just one of these people who steal my time by starting useless flamewars by sending tons of lies about ny work and my projects. Unless you start a fruitful discussion now, I wil ignore you. Jörg Trying to steal your time ? How ? Sending tons of lies about your work ? Are you paranoid ? I did not even know you before I reported my problems, for the first time, on that mailing-list. Did I ask you specifically something ? No. Didn't you admit that there was indeed a problem, and didn't you apologize in a previous post ? You say you want people _help_ you instead of creating flame wars ? I was here to do that, until you just dismissed my comments with a you won't get any help here. OK, you want help, but please write how. What can I do, with a DVD burner on my box ? Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed problems with PX-716A
On Sat 29 Jan 2005 01:52:15 NZDT +1300, Joerg Schilling wrote: Do not expect any help for bastardized cdrecord variants here. Do not expect any such help from Jörg here. This list is not only for Jörg's software! (Although Jörg doesn't want to understand that.) However I don't think there is any open-source version of cdrecord for DVD-burning worth having, use growisofs instead if you need open source. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speed problems with PX-716A
Hi, This is a bug report I sent first to k3b team (KD bugzilla #97992). However, this may concern growisofs/cdrtools/kernel, so I send a copy of it here. Sorry if I report too many things, but this may interest growisofs authors, at least for the speed command part (I guess). I have got a PX-716A DVD burner, latest firmware (1.04) and latest version of cdrtools, growisofs, k3b: Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a01-dvd growisofs by [EMAIL PROTECTED], version 5.21, front-ending to mkisofs: mkisofs 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Qt: 3.3.3 KDE: 3.3.2 K3b: 0.11.19 There are some issues with the different software, probably I shall have to post this bug report on a lot of mailing list because they may lie in the different software. 1) K3b setup reports the PX-716A as non-capable of DVD+R(W) burning. However, this is false, and k3b is able to do it. K3B bug ? 2) When trying to burn a DVD+R(W), I have to force the media to be used, despite it is correctly detected (DVD+R (empty) is displayed on window). K3B bug ? 3) Possible speeds are correctly detected. However, using Verbatim DVD+R 8X certified (MMC 003), despite I select 4X, 6X or 8X, it tries to burn at 12X. I have to select either 1X before speed detection (-speed 1 is sent by growisofs). the growisofs command has the correct -speed=8 (or else) switch but tries to burn at 12X. Workaround : select 1X then -speed=1 will make it burn at 4X, or ignore, then it will correctly burn the media at 8X, the certified speed for that media. Growisofs bug ? 4) Only root can burn a second or subsequent DVD. This is a kernel bug, which has been solved. See http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=110599420505734w=2 5) Issue with driveropts detection of this drive: as root, with empty tray, 'cdrecord driveropts=help -checkdrive dev=ATA:1,0,0' reports: Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology varirec=val Set VariRec Laserpower to -2, -1, 0, 1, 2 Only works for audio and if speed is set to 4 gigarec=val Set GigaRec capacity ratio to 0.6, 0.7, 0.8, 1.0, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 forcespeed Tell the drive to force speed even for low quality media speedread Tell the drive to read as fast as possible nospeedread Disable to wead as fast as possible singlesession Tell the drive to behave as single session only drive nosinglesession Disable single session only mode hidecdr Tell the drive to hide CD-R media nohidecdr Disable hiding CD-R media However, as root, WITH a DVD-/+R in it: Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'DVDR PX-716A ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. cdrecord: Found DVD media: using cdr_mdvd. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode. Driver options: burnfreePrepare writer to use BURN-Free technology noburnfree Disable using BURN-Free technology I get the same answer for a user, either with or without a CD in it. Maybe a cdrtools/cdrecord problem ? I hope this helps. Thanks Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
