mini-dvd

2004-11-29 Thread Geoffrey
Two questions really.  Is it possible to burn to a mini-dvd, the kind 
that go into a handycam camera?  Things things are marked
dvd-r/30 min/1.4 gb.

Can you burn a cd iso to a dvd?  That is, is there any difference in the 
format?  I'm thinking it'd be kinda neat to burn a full gnoppix cd to a 
mini dvd.

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Re: mini-dvd

2004-11-29 Thread scdbackup
Hi,
 Two questions really.  Is it possible to burn to a mini-dvd, the kind 
 that go into a handycam camera?  Things things are marked
 dvd-r/30 min/1.4 gb.

Interesting question. How does that work mechanically ?
A special drive ? An adapter frame for a normal drive ?

 
 Can you burn a cd iso to a dvd?  That is, is there any difference in the 
 format?  I'm thinking it'd be kinda neat to burn a full gnoppix cd to a 
 mini dvd.

At least there is no difference between CD and normal sized DVD.

I use the same mkisofs commands for both.
I can copy a CD to DVD+/- by a command like 
  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k | growisofs -Z /dev/scd0=/proc/self/fd/0
(modulo cruel effects on your IDE if both drives share a controller)
Similar can be done with  cdrecord-ProDVD , of course.

That DVD will be mountable and show the same ISO tree as the CD.

I did not try this with bootable CDs, though.



Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: mini-dvd

2004-11-29 Thread Geoffrey
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Hi,
Two questions really.  Is it possible to burn to a mini-dvd, the kind 
that go into a handycam camera?  Things things are marked
dvd-r/30 min/1.4 gb.

Interesting question. How does that work mechanically ?
A special drive ? An adapter frame for a normal drive ?
Most drives, including all three of my dvd burners have a recessed area 
where a small disk of this size will fit.  I've burned the mini cds on 
these drives, so I was hoping the mini-dvds would work as well.

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Re: mini-dvd

2004-11-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 Two questions really.  Is it possible to burn to a mini-dvd, the kind 
 that go into a handycam camera?  Things things are marked
 dvd-r/30 min/1.4 gb.

I haven't tried, but with mini CD-R the only difference to CD-R is that
the capacity is lower. The last lot of business card-sized mini CD-R I
got were obviously just cut-down normal CD-R, as the ATIP info recorded
on them still said 650MB... There should be no difference for mini DVD-R
either. The laser runs out of burnable surface earlier, that's about it.

 Can you burn a cd iso to a dvd?

Yes.

  That is, is there any difference in the 
 format?

No. Both simply are block devices, like your hard disk. However, unlike
your harddisk, random read/write access isn't quite as good or fast.

 I'm thinking it'd be kinda neat to burn a full gnoppix cd to a 
 mini dvd.

Good idea, though consider that if you're doing it for maximum
compatibility with any other computer you might come across, you will
then need a dvdrom drive, and a drive which can read mini (do they
all?).

Volker

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Re: mini-dvd

2004-11-29 Thread Geoffrey
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
Two questions really.  Is it possible to burn to a mini-dvd, the
kind that go into a handycam camera?  Things things are marked 
dvd-r/30 min/1.4 gb.

I haven't tried, but with mini CD-R the only difference to CD-R is
that the capacity is lower. The last lot of business card-sized mini
CD-R I got were obviously just cut-down normal CD-R, as the ATIP info
recorded on them still said 650MB... There should be no difference
for mini DVD-R either. The laser runs out of burnable surface
earlier, that's about it.
It does work, just tried it.
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I'm thinking it'd be kinda neat to burn a full gnoppix cd to a mini
dvd.
Good idea, though consider that if you're doing it for maximum 
compatibility with any other computer you might come across, you will
 then need a dvdrom drive, and a drive which can read mini (do they 
all?).
Most newer boxes these days do.  I just bought a pretty low end laptop 
and it has one.  Anyway, I did successfully burn a cd iso of gnoppix to 
this mini dvd-r and my laptop booted off it fine.

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