Re: [CentOS-docs] Re: modern-CentOS-1.7-10

2007-11-21 Thread Dag Wieers
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:

 Thank you very much for those comments.

No, thank you for your perseverance :)


 Also, What do you think about info messages ? would be convenient to
 define some styles to notes, warnings and stops messages in our wiki ?

Yes, good admonition support is a definite plus for documentation !

And if it exists, I am sure more people will make use of it to polish
their documents.

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[CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey,

one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
lose screen estate at the top. 

How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
moment.

Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
background pattern) go with 1% padding?

1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
white space over the header ...

[insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]


Other than that, I'd like to call this the Final Version for now, with
which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
mirrors.

That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
...

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Lance Davis

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:


Hey,

one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
lose screen estate at the top.

How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
moment.


Looks fine - I would do the same at the sides as well.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Dag Wieers
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:

 one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
 lose screen estate at the top.

 How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
 10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
 moment.

 Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
 background pattern) go with 1% padding?

 1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
 white space over the header ...

 [insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
 people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]


 Other than that, I'd like to call this the Final Version for now, with
 which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
 mirrors.

 That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
 like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
 ...

I would bring it live right now and do the optimisations later. There is
no need to get clearance of those things if most people already condoned
most of the meat :)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Tim Verhoeven
On Nov 21, 2007 6:31 PM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
 lose screen estate at the top.

 How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
 10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
 moment.

 Or, if all of you want to have some more space above there (and the
 background pattern) go with 1% padding?

 1% padding means that there will be *1* line of checkered boxes over the
 white space over the header ...

 [insert personal opinion: 1% padding looks better, IMHO, but other
 people seem to like the 0% padding instead.]


 Other than that, I'd like to call this the Final Version for now, with
 which I'd like to go live on the real wiki before 5.1/4.6 hit the
 mirrors.
You have a go for me. Let's get this online. It is already a great
improvement over the current one. And it would be great to get this
going before the 5.1 release.

 That doesn't mean that we won't improve the design any further, but I'd
 like to show some progress to the outside (release early, release often)
 ...

Indeed, finetuning can be done over the coming days and weeks.

Regards,
Tim

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 17:36 +, Lance Davis wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
  Hey,
 
  one last change maybe - with the 3% padding on top and bottom, we really
  lose screen estate at the top.
 
  How does it look to you without any padding at top/bottom (leaving a
  10px white line there)? That's what's live on wiki-m.centos.org at the
  moment.
 
 Looks fine - I would do the same at the sides as well.

I am not sure. It is known from studies that people can only read
optimally up to a certain text width. Not that a fixed size is enforced
now, but the smaller relative width it has now, improves the readability
of longer texts.

*If* we want to fill up the sides, I think it is better to do that with
menus or some other content in the future.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki deuglification, last (at the moment) part

2007-11-21 Thread Nick Sklav

On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:02 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Nov 21, 2007 9:31 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey
 
 Let's go live now.
 
 Akemi


I Second the opinion of going live. let this baby be the new face of the
wiki. Also fine tuning is an art and takes a life time ;)
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re: modern-CentOS-1.7-10

2007-11-21 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
On Nov 21, 2007 12:25 PM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thank you very much for those comments.
 
  Also, I want to note that in a 1024x768 screen some pages break
  navibar. For example:
  - http://wiki-m.centos.org/HowTos/I_need_the_Kernel_Source
  - 
  http://wiki-m.centos.org/HowTos/Rotational_backup_with_remote_backup_options
  - http://wiki-m.centos.org/YumCheckOrInstallUpdates
 
  Could we do something to fix that ?

 Rename the pages, I guess. I have no other idea. Who in $deities name
 made up those page titles anyway? :)

... and if we cut the spaces between words ? with that we'll reduce 4
(5 if we cut the FAQ's s) characters on navibar ... maybe the ones we
need ... maybe not  could we test it ?

another thing would be to make the page a little width wide ... but I
see it a little wide already

another thing would be to put FAQs, HowTos and TipsAndTricks links
into a Documentation page and just show Documentation link on navibar

all these have pros and cons ... what do you think ? any other idea ?

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re: modern-CentOS-1.7-10

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 another thing would be to put FAQs, HowTos and TipsAndTricks links
 into a Documentation page and just show Documentation link on navibar

That will happen, when we begin to restructure content. Let's live with
it for the moment ...

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS-docs] Last Change for the css

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey,

last patch for screen.css:

--- screen.css.orig 2007-11-21 17:18:13.0 +
+++ screen.css  2007-11-21 17:22:43.0 +
@@ -13,8 +13,6 @@
 */
 
 body {
-padding-top: 3%;
-padding-bottom: 3%;
 padding-right: 10%;
 padding-left: 10%;
 margin: 0px;

And after that we go live!

Just joking. We already are live. See http://wiki.centos.org/.

And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, show a big round of applause for Alain! 

Alain: Thank you in the name of the CentOS Team. Great work.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Last Change for the css

2007-11-21 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Nov 21, 2007 3:58 PM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,

 Just joking. We already are live. See http://wiki.centos.org/.

 And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, show a big round of applause for Alain!

 Alain: Thank you in the name of the CentOS Team. Great work.

Thank you, Alain and Ralph.  The CentOS wiki finally looks so professional.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Last Change for the css

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel de Kok
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 16:09 -0800, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Nov 21, 2007 3:58 PM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey,
 
  Just joking. We already are live. See http://wiki.centos.org/.
 
  And now, Ladies and Gentlemen, show a big round of applause for Alain!
 
  Alain: Thank you in the name of the CentOS Team. Great work.
 
 Thank you, Alain and Ralph.  The CentOS wiki finally looks so professional.

Indeed, many thanks to both of you for making this happen!

-- Daniel

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[CentOS-docs] modern-CentOS-1.7-12

2007-11-21 Thread Alain Reguera Delgado
Hi Ralph,

Could you install 1.7-12 please, it includes:
- some message styles.
- make body top and bottom 0px.

If it can't be installed on wiki.centos.org could you give me write
access on wiki-m.centos.org/ArtWork/Wiki page to show the message
style proposition ?

Cheers,
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[CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Ganga
Hola estimados:

Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:

Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba

Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).

Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
windows y se genera el siguiente error:

error al intertar unir al dominio x
error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña incorrecta.

- Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
agregar pero el problema continua.


- Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :

- os level = 65
- wins support = yes

- Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua

Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
maquina.

investige  y encontre 2 cosas:

cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters

requiresignorseal = dword=0001

por

requiresignorseal = dword=

el error continua.

- Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:

Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager

Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.

pero el error sigue.

Espero haberme explicado bien,

El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2

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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Maximo Mosalvo

Mario Ganga wrote:

Hola maximo gracias por tu atencion

Con respecto a tus preguntas

hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun error?

   lo hice  y no arroja ningun error.

usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?

Si uso al root para unirlos al dominio, como explicaba en el correo
las maquinas nuevas las que no estaban en el antiguo dominio funciona,
pero en la que probe que si estaba en el antiguo me arroja el error.


  

pregunta tonta la sacaste del dominio y la volviste a agregar al nuevo??

hiciste los mapeos de grupos?

No lo he hecho, aunque ejecuto el comando: net groupmap list y no me
muestra nada eso es raro deberia mostrame los grupos con su sid.

  

en realidad los samba nuevos bienen asi tenes que hacer lo mapeos vos


Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro


On Nov 21, 2007 10:43 AM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Mario Ganga wrote:


Hola estimados:

Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:

Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba

Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).

Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
windows y se genera el siguiente error:

error al intertar unir al dominio x
error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña incorrecta.

- Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
agregar pero el problema continua.


- Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :

- os level = 65
- wins support = yes

- Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua

Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
maquina.

investige  y encontre 2 cosas:

cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters

requiresignorseal = dword=0001

por

requiresignorseal = dword=

el error continua.

- Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:

Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager

Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.

pero el error sigue.

Espero haberme explicado bien,

El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2

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hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun
error?
usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
hiciste los mapeos de grupos?


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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Hernán Herrera

Quizas esto te ayude:
http://tiki.diariolinux.com/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=18


 Hola estimados:

 Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
 centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:

 Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba

 Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
 dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).

 Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
 windows y se genera el siguiente error:

 error al intertar unir al dominio x
 error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña incorrecta.

 - Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
 con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
 agregar pero el problema continua.


 - Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :

 - os level = 65
 - wins support = yes

 - Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua

 Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
 funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
 maquina.

 investige  y encontre 2 cosas:

 cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters

 requiresignorseal = dword=0001

 por

 requiresignorseal = dword=

 el error continua.

 - Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:

 Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager

 Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.

 pero el error sigue.

 Espero haberme explicado bien,

 El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
 3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
 la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2

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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Ganga
Si estimado la saque la volvi a agregar de variasd maneras...

te cuento que probe con otro server con samba el de pruebas con un
cable cruzado y listo se agrego sin problemas el server de pruebas en
centos 4.5 no recuerdo la version de samba... asi que hice lo
suguiente tome smb.conf de centos 4.5 lo movi a centos 5.0 haciendo
los cambios necesarios obviamente, eche a correr samba sin
problemas... ejecute un testparm y me arroja los siguientes errores:

Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
file: # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read
the
params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
file: t of which are not shown in this example

Le estado preguntando a google pero nada...

Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro.


On Nov 21, 2007 12:54 PM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mario Ganga wrote:
  Hola maximo gracias por tu atencion
 
  Con respecto a tus preguntas
 
  hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun 
  error?
 
 lo hice  y no arroja ningun error.
 
  usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
 
  Si uso al root para unirlos al dominio, como explicaba en el correo
  las maquinas nuevas las que no estaban en el antiguo dominio funciona,
  pero en la que probe que si estaba en el antiguo me arroja el error.
 
 
 
 pregunta tonta la sacaste del dominio y la volviste a agregar al nuevo??
  hiciste los mapeos de grupos?
 
  No lo he hecho, aunque ejecuto el comando: net groupmap list y no me
  muestra nada eso es raro deberia mostrame los grupos con su sid.
 
 
 en realidad los samba nuevos bienen asi tenes que hacer lo mapeos vos


  Atte.
  Mario Ganga Castro
 
 
  On Nov 21, 2007 10:43 AM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Mario Ganga wrote:
 
  Hola estimados:
 
  Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
  centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:
 
  Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba
 
  Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
  dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).
 
  Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
  windows y se genera el siguiente error:
 
  error al intertar unir al dominio x
  error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña incorrecta.
 
  - Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
  con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
  agregar pero el problema continua.
 
 
  - Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :
 
  - os level = 65
  - wins support = yes
 
  - Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua
 
  Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
  funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
  maquina.
 
  investige  y encontre 2 cosas:
 
  cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:
 
  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters
 
  requiresignorseal = dword=0001
 
  por
 
  requiresignorseal = dword=
 
  el error continua.
 
  - Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:
 
  Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager
 
  Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.
 
  pero el error sigue.
 
  Espero haberme explicado bien,
 
  El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
  3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
  la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2
 
  Gracias.
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  hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun
  error?
  usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
  hiciste los mapeos de grupos?
 
 
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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Ganga
Ya solucione este error

params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
file: t of which are not shown in this example

tenia una t en el archivo smb.conf fuera de los comentarios.

la borre y listo ahora voy por el otro aunque ya no veo nada malo

Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro


On Nov 21, 2007 3:33 PM, Mario Ganga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Si estimado la saque la volvi a agregar de variasd maneras...

 te cuento que probe con otro server con samba el de pruebas con un
 cable cruzado y listo se agrego sin problemas el server de pruebas en
 centos 4.5 no recuerdo la version de samba... asi que hice lo
 suguiente tome smb.conf de centos 4.5 lo movi a centos 5.0 haciendo
 los cambios necesarios obviamente, eche a correr samba sin
 problemas... ejecute un testparm y me arroja los siguientes errores:

 Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
 params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
 file: # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read
 the
 params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
 file: t of which are not shown in this example

 Le estado preguntando a google pero nada...

 Atte.
 Mario Ganga Castro.



 On Nov 21, 2007 12:54 PM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mario Ganga wrote:
   Hola maximo gracias por tu atencion
  
   Con respecto a tus preguntas
  
   hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun 
   error?
  
  lo hice  y no arroja ningun error.
  
   usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
  
   Si uso al root para unirlos al dominio, como explicaba en el correo
   las maquinas nuevas las que no estaban en el antiguo dominio funciona,
   pero en la que probe que si estaba en el antiguo me arroja el error.
  
  
  
  pregunta tonta la sacaste del dominio y la volviste a agregar al nuevo??
   hiciste los mapeos de grupos?
  
   No lo he hecho, aunque ejecuto el comando: net groupmap list y no me
   muestra nada eso es raro deberia mostrame los grupos con su sid.
  
  
  en realidad los samba nuevos bienen asi tenes que hacer lo mapeos vos
 
 
   Atte.
   Mario Ganga Castro
  
  
   On Nov 21, 2007 10:43 AM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Mario Ganga wrote:
  
   Hola estimados:
  
   Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
   centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:
  
   Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba
  
   Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
   dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).
  
   Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
   windows y se genera el siguiente error:
  
   error al intertar unir al dominio x
   error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña incorrecta.
  
   - Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
   con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
   agregar pero el problema continua.
  
  
   - Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :
  
   - os level = 65
   - wins support = yes
  
   - Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua
  
   Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
   funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
   maquina.
  
   investige  y encontre 2 cosas:
  
   cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:
  
   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters
  
   requiresignorseal = dword=0001
  
   por
  
   requiresignorseal = dword=
  
   el error continua.
  
   - Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:
  
   Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager
  
   Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.
  
   pero el error sigue.
  
   Espero haberme explicado bien,
  
   El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
   3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
   la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2
  
   Gracias.
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   hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun
   error?
   usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
   hiciste los mapeos de grupos?
  
  
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Re: [CentOS-es] Problema extraño con Samba.

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Ganga
Solucionado!!

Bueno el asunto es que me fui con el equipo a donde estaba el server
con samba lo conecte con un cable cruzado, hice el procedimiento para
cambiarlo de domnio, y se unio al dominio.

Aperentemente hay problema en la red, parece que algun switch esta
filtrando de alguna manera los paquetes que ocupa samba, lo extraño es
que los equipos que nunca estuvieron en el domnio antiguo (win2003),
nunca pesentaron problemas se unian al dominio sin problemas.


bueno gracias a todos por la ayuda.

Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro.


On Nov 21, 2007 4:16 PM, Mario Ganga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ya solucione este error

 params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
 file: t of which are not shown in this example

 tenia una t en el archivo smb.conf fuera de los comentarios.

 la borre y listo ahora voy por el otro aunque ya no veo nada malo

 Atte.
 Mario Ganga Castro



 On Nov 21, 2007 3:33 PM, Mario Ganga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Si estimado la saque la volvi a agregar de variasd maneras...
 
  te cuento que probe con otro server con samba el de pruebas con un
  cable cruzado y listo se agrego sin problemas el server de pruebas en
  centos 4.5 no recuerdo la version de samba... asi que hice lo
  suguiente tome smb.conf de centos 4.5 lo movi a centos 5.0 haciendo
  los cambios necesarios obviamente, eche a correr samba sin
  problemas... ejecute un testparm y me arroja los siguientes errores:
 
  Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf
  params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
  file: # This is the main Samba configuration file. You should read
  the
  params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration
  file: t of which are not shown in this example
 
  Le estado preguntando a google pero nada...
 
  Atte.
  Mario Ganga Castro.
 
 
 
  On Nov 21, 2007 12:54 PM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Mario Ganga wrote:
Hola maximo gracias por tu atencion
   
Con respecto a tus preguntas
   
hiciste el smbpaswd -a root ? y le pusiste contraseña? no te dio ningun 
error?
   
   lo hice  y no arroja ningun error.
   
usaste root para agregar la pc al dominio?
   
Si uso al root para unirlos al dominio, como explicaba en el correo
las maquinas nuevas las que no estaban en el antiguo dominio funciona,
pero en la que probe que si estaba en el antiguo me arroja el error.
   
   
   
   pregunta tonta la sacaste del dominio y la volviste a agregar al nuevo??
hiciste los mapeos de grupos?
   
No lo he hecho, aunque ejecuto el comando: net groupmap list y no me
muestra nada eso es raro deberia mostrame los grupos con su sid.
   
   
   en realidad los samba nuevos bienen asi tenes que hacer lo mapeos vos
  
  
Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro
   
   
On Nov 21, 2007 10:43 AM, Maximo Mosalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Mario Ganga wrote:
   
Hola estimados:
   
Les cuento el problema que ha surgido con windows y samba en
centos 5, espero me puedan ayudar:
   
Por razones tecnicas nos vemos de migar de win 2003 a samba
   
Todo iba bien las pruebas con maquinas que no se encontraban el el
dominio en windows( la maquina se unia al dominio todo bien).
   
Asi que decidimos probar con una mquina que estaba en el dominio
windows y se genera el siguiente error:
   
error al intertar unir al dominio x
error de inicio de sesion: usuario desconocino o contraseña 
incorrecta.
   
- Eso es obvio que un problema de que el root no esta agregado a samba
con la respectiva clave, asi que saque al root de samba y lo volvi a
agregar pero el problema continua.
   
   
- Descomente unas lineas del samba.conf :
   
- os level = 65
- wins support = yes
   
- Guarde los cambios y  reinicie el servicio pero el problema continua
   
Es raro por que las maquinas que no estaban el dominio windows
funciona bien... Asi que crei que es problema del windows de esa
maquina.
   
investige  y encontre 2 cosas:
   
cambiar el valor de la clave de registro:
   
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Currentcontrolset\services\netlogon\parameters
   
requiresignorseal = dword=0001
   
por
   
requiresignorseal = dword=
   
el error continua.
   
- Despues cambie las politicas de seguridad especificamente:
   
Seguridad de red: Nivel autenticacion de LAN Manager
   
Enviar LM Y NTLM por NTLMv2 si se negocia.
   
pero el error sigue.
   
Espero haberme explicado bien,
   
El kernel que ocupo es:  2.6.18-8.1.15.el5, version de samba:
3.0.23c-2.el5.2.0.2
la maquina del problema  es windows xp service pack 2
   
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Re: [CentOS-es] Centos 5 en portatil con Chipset Intel 965

2007-11-21 Thread Mario Ganga
Estimado miguel:

Desde mi punto de vista un portatil es para ser ocupado como estacion
de trabajo.
Creo que centos no es la distribucion mas indicada para un portatil,
es mas bien para servidores.
Yo utilizaria mandriva, (k)ubuntu o fedora en ultimo caso.

Atte.
Mario Ganga Castro.


On Nov 21, 2007 4:22 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hola,

 Me acabo de comprar un portatil y de cabeza a Centos... tiene un chipset intel
 965 express y el SO solo me lanza las X cuando configuro el xorg.conf con
 vesa. El problema es que me coge una resolución maxima de 1024 x 7.. y la
 pantalla del portatil es panoramica, con lo que me quedan 2 bandas
 monisimas negras a los lados.

 Tengo que configurar centos para el chipset intel 965.. para ello:

 -en consola ejecuto SETUP y voy a configurar X.
obviamente tengo que tenerlo puesto en vesa para que funcione.
 -elijo el intel provider..
 aceptar..

 de nuevo pantalla en blanco.

 Que hago mal?? que hago??

 un saludo,


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Re: [CentOS-es] Disco SCSI se habrá desconec tado?

2007-11-21 Thread Héctor Anibal Talingo García
Camilo Sperberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Muy buenas tardes ;) 

Primero que nada, me presento... Soi de Chile, estudiante a tiempo completo y 
trabajador a medio tiempo en 2 trabajos xD Es primera vez que me suscribo a una 
lista de correos en muchos años y por fin entendí la utilidad del gmail de 
reunir todos los temas que tengan un mismo subject :P Obviamente, trataré de 
poner toda mi ayuda en la medida de lo posible... no soi un gurú pero tampoco 
un principiante, llevo su resto de años ya :)  

Pero bueno, al grano... 

Desde hace algún tiempo que me llegó un equipo para jugar, un IBM Netfinity 
5000, para lo cual elegí instalarle CentOS porque en mi casa tengo otro 
servidor con CentOS hace harto tiempo ya y nunca me había dado un problema.  
Resulta que ayer en la tarde, al verificar cómo andaba el servidor, me di 
cuenta de algo: para cualquier comando que exigiera algún uso del disco, me 
tiraba error de entrada/salida. 
Recién hoy en la mañana, cuando pude entrar a la sala, pude diagnosticar bien 
el problema... Pero al final no sé qué es lo que habrá pasado ... Previamente 
había leído en esta misma lista que ejecutara el comando smartctl -a /dev/sda 
pero al ejecutar ese comando como root, me dio el mensaje de error de que había 
ocurrido un problema de entrada/salida.  
Cuento corto: no podía hacer casi nada. Al ejecutar un ls -alh al directorio 
/usr/sbin/ (donde está smartctl) me aparecía lo siguiente: 

 ?-  1 ? ? ? may  2  2007 smartctl , donde smartctl estaba destacado 
en rojo sobre fondo blanco. Al tratar de cambiar algún setting, no guardaba el 
cambio, y si me logeaba múltiples veces, me mostraba siempre que me había 
logeado por última vez hacía 1 semana atrás. (ejemplo)  

En este punto, era obvio que el disco había sido sacado en caliente, por lo 
cual pedí la llave para ver si efectivamente el disco estaba o no, y para 
sorpresa mía, el disco estaba ! 

Ejecuté primero un shutdown -h NOW ; sin éxito. Me decía error en 
entrada/salida. Tampoco estaba en la ram este comando.  

Ejecuté un halt, y no pasó nada. Simplemente no apagaba el equipo, no hacía 
nada el comando, por lo que opté por hacer un apagado forzoso. 

Una vez apagado el equipo, saqué el disco, lo limpié y volví a colocarlo. 
Ejecuté las pruebas que vienen con la controladora, y ningún problema fue 
detectado. Luego booteé y ningún problema. No tiró ningún kernel panic, cargó 
todos los servicios que tenía que cargar, y el equipo booteó sin problema 
alguna... como si hubiese sido un simple booteo...  

Mi teoría? El disco se soltó... pero no tiene ninguna lógica, no tenía (tanto) 
polvo, y el disco estaba bien sujeto (de hecho, me costó sacarlo, estaba bien 
apretado). Qué opinan ustedes? Algún problema con CentOS 5 y la controladora? O 
mi teoría es correcta y que lo único que pasó fue que se soltó un poco el 
disco?  

controladora:  (desde vi /var/log/dmesg)
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
Adaptec aic7895 Ultra SCSI adapter
aic7895C: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs 

Cabe destacar que el equipo estuvo funcionando perfecto desde hacía unos 45 
días (sin reinicios de por medio), y de repente tuvo esta falla ... 

Si necesitan más antecedentes, no duden en escribir ;) 

 Saludos !! 

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 a mi me paso exactamente lo mismo con un server ya en produccion, el problema 
es que este equipo esta como a 40 km de mi oficina y con todo y pena tuve que 
ir in situ a apagarlo fisicamente.
 Al reiniciarse todo volvio a la normalidad hasta el dia de hoy.

Todo a causa de ejecutar el comando smartctl

De lo cual surge mi duda:
¿Tendria que haber primero desmontado todas las particiones para ejecutar 
enseguida dicho comando?

¿O es porque los discos son SATA?

En mi caso es un server Dell con 2 discos duros SATA si no mal recuerdo en RAID 
1 (espejo)

saludos a todos.

   
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[CentOS-es] Release Notes: Translation, an explanation and something to translate

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey,

somehow we're always running late with those release notes. 

But: We have a new idea - living online release notes. 

What does that mean? 

We are going to split the release notes and have a very short version on
the actual CentOS ISOs - those then point to the *real* release notes on
wiki.centos.org and to some other places on the wiki and www.centos.org.

The real release notes are going to be on the wiki and can be modified
as needed (for example the Known issues section could grow during the
lifetime of 5.1). And this is also the part where most of the
translation has to happen!

So attached to this mail are the release notes which go on the Isos.
These need to be translated real soon now (today would be great -
November 22nd 2007 that is, European time that is). Please send those
translations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the meantime we are going to develop longer release notes on
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1 - these need to
be translated also. And to translate these, all translators need an
account on wiki.centos.org. So please create an account for yourself
(FirstnameLastname - JoeyMiller for example) and send that account name
(not the password!) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also. I'll add you to the list
of people who are allowed to edit translations then. 

This process can take a longer time, these don't need to be complete
when 5.1 comes out. 

Short summary:

Please translate the attached text *as soon as possible* and send the
results (please only one result per language) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please send your LoginNames for the wiki to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also -
otherwise you won't be able to edit the release notes on the wiki.

After that you can begin translating the online release notes.

The CentOS team wants to thank you all for the great work you are
putting into the release (and have during the last release) - you guys
and girls are great. 

THANK YOU!

And now start working =:)

Ralph

PS: Please don't reply to this mail :)

PPS: Release notes are attached
---8-
The CentOS project welcomes you to CentOS-5.1.
 
The complete release notes for CentOS-5.1 can be found online at
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1. A list of
frequently asked questions and answers about CentOS-5 can be found
here : http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5.

If you are looking for help with CentOS, we recommend you start at
http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp for pointers to the different
sources where you can get help.

For more information about The CentOS Project in general please
visit our homepage at http://www.centos.org.

If you would like to contribute to the CentOS Project, see 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowToContribute for areas where you could help.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Centos 5 en portatil con Chipset Intel 965

2007-11-21 Thread migueltorres
Estimado Mario,

Precisamente por esa razon es por la que quiero instalar CentOS. Necesito una
distribución basada en Red Hat y Fedora no m gusta. Habitualmente trabajo con
Suse y con Debian Etch pero en el portatil por el curso que voy a hacer
necesito CentOs.

El tema grafico es mas por desafio y por coraje que otra cosa por que al final
lo que de verdad necesito es entorno texto, y aqui el gran problema:

Tal como esta configurada ahora mismo la maquina, con vesa, puedo levantar las
X pero lo que no puedo es volver a modo consola.. ni cambiar a init 3 ni na..
se me queda el entorno grafico pillado... Puedes echarme una mano??

Miguel

 Estimado miguel:

 Desde mi punto de vista un portatil es para ser ocupado como estacion
 de trabajo.
 Creo que centos no es la distribucion mas indicada para un portatil,
 es mas bien para servidores.
 Yo utilizaria mandriva, (k)ubuntu o fedora en ultimo caso.

 Atte.
 Mario Ganga Castro.


 On Nov 21, 2007 4:22 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hola,

 Me acabo de comprar un portatil y de cabeza a Centos... tiene un chipset
 intel
 965 express y el SO solo me lanza las X cuando configuro el xorg.conf con
 vesa. El problema es que me coge una resolución maxima de 1024 x 7.. y la
 pantalla del portatil es panoramica, con lo que me quedan 2 bandas
 monisimas negras a los lados.

 Tengo que configurar centos para el chipset intel 965.. para ello:

 -en consola ejecuto SETUP y voy a configurar X.
obviamente tengo que tenerlo puesto en vesa para que funcione.
 -elijo el intel provider..
 aceptar..

 de nuevo pantalla en blanco.

 Que hago mal?? que hago??

 un saludo,


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Re: [CentOS-es] Centos 5 en portatil con Chipset Intel 965

2007-11-21 Thread Ignasi Cavero
El Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:22:44 +0100 (CET) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:

 Hola,
 
 Me acabo de comprar un portatil y de cabeza a Centos... tiene un
 chipset intel 965 express y el SO solo me lanza las X cuando
 configuro el xorg.conf con vesa. El problema es que me coge una
 resolución maxima de 1024 x 7.. y la pantalla del portatil es
 panoramica, con lo que me quedan 2 bandas monisimas negras a los
 lados.
 
 Tengo que configurar centos para el chipset intel 965.. para ello:
 
 -en consola ejecuto SETUP y voy a configurar X.
obviamente tengo que tenerlo puesto en vesa para que funcione.
 -elijo el intel provider..
 aceptar..
 
 de nuevo pantalla en blanco.
 
 Que hago mal?? que hago??
 
 un saludo,
 
El problema está en que la lista de modos de vídeo soportados por la
tarjeta 965 es superior a la lista de modos que seleccionables en la
propia tarjeta.

El paquete 915resolution permite redefinir de forma muy sencilla alguno
de dichos modos de vídeo. Si mi memoria no me falla, el RPM que hay
para Centos5 no reconoce todavía la 965, pero las últimas versiones si
lo reconocen.

Lo recomendable es redefinir los modos de vídeo durante el arranque de
la máquina y después ya arrancarás las X si te interesa.

El 915resolution lo encontrarás en http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/

Saludos
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Re: [CentOS-es] Release Notes: Translation, an explanation and something to translate

2007-11-21 Thread Roger Peña

--- Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey,
 
 somehow we're always running late with those release
 notes. 
 
 But: We have a new idea - living online release
 notes. 
 
 In the meantime we are going to develop longer
 release notes on

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1
 - these need to
 be translated also. And to translate these, all
 translators need an
 account on wiki.centos.org. So please create an
 account for yourself
 (FirstnameLastname - JoeyMiller for example) and
 send that account name
 (not the password!) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also. I'll
 add you to the list
 of people who are allowed to edit translations then.
 


 PS: Please don't reply to this mail :)

bueno, entonces como coordinamos? anyway, mejor mando
mi version de la traduccion a la lista y que cuando
haya un acuerdo (antes de mañana) alguien se lo
envie a ralph

 
 PPS: Release notes are attached
  ---8-

El proyecto CentOS le da la bienvenida a CentOS-5.1.
Las notas completas para esta versión pueden leerse en
:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.1.

Una lista de las preguntas y respuestas más frecuentes
acerca de CentOS-5 pueden encontrarse en:
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS5.

Si ud está buscando ayuda con CentOS nosotros le
recomendamos empezar visitando la página
http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp
allí encontrará indicaciones sobre donde y como
obtener ayuda.

Para más información acerca El Proyecto CentOS en
general le recomendamos visitar nuestra página web 
http://www.centos.org.

Si ud desea contribuir al Proyecto CentOS, busque en 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowToContribute tópicos o áreas
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Re: [CentOS] manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Shad L. Lords wrote:
 find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value

Or (SUSV compliant): 

find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread William L. Maltby
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:04 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Shad L. Lords wrote:
  find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value
 
 Or (SUSV compliant): 
 
 find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +

Easier to type and more natural (for me). But less efficient than the
xargs version since each file cause a new process to be spawned. For a
very large number of items the difference would be noticeable.

 
 Cheers,
 
 Ralph
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Re: [CentOS] manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread William L. Maltby
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:04 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Shad L. Lords wrote:
  find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value
 
 Or (SUSV compliant): 
 
 find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +

P.S.

 Don't forget to escape the { and }.

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Re: [CentOS] manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:04 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Shad L. Lords wrote:
 find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value
 
 Or (SUSV compliant): 
 
 find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +
 
 Easier to type and more natural (for me). But less efficient than the
 xargs version since each file cause a new process to be spawned. For a
 very large number of items the difference would be noticeable.

Wrong.

   -exec command {} +
  This variant of the -exec option runs the specified command on
  the selected files, but the command line is built by appending
  each selected file name at the end; the total number of  invo-
  cations  of  the  command will be much less than the number of
  matched files.  The command line is built in much the same way
  that  xargs  builds  its  command lines.  Only one instance of
  ’{}’ is allowed within the command.  The command  is  executed
  in the starting directory.

And yes, that works on mostly any Unix (as said: SUSV compliant), while
many commercial unixes have interesting implementations of xargs and
-print0 (or don't have that at all).

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS] Re: manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William L. Maltby wrote:
  On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:04 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Shad L. Lords wrote:
  find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value
  
  Or (SUSV compliant): 
  
  find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +
  
  Easier to type and more natural (for me). But less efficient than the
  xargs version since each file cause a new process to be spawned. For a
  very large number of items the difference would be noticeable.
 
 Wrong.
 
-exec command {} +
   This variant of the -exec option runs the specified command on
   the selected files, but the command line is built by appending
   each selected file name at the end; the total number of  invo-
   cations  of  the  command will be much less than the number of
   matched files.  The command line is built in much the same way
   that  xargs  builds  its  command lines.  Only one instance of
   {} is allowed within the command.  The command  is  executed
   in the starting directory.
 
 And yes, that works on mostly any Unix (as said: SUSV compliant), while
 many commercial unixes have interesting implementations of xargs and
 -print0 (or don't have that at all).

Maybe, but unless it works on CentOS 5, it is irrelevant to this list.
It certainly is not available in the find on CentOS 4:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# find /home/user/ -type f -exec echo {} + \:
find: missing argument to `-exec'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

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[CentOS] Re: manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 10:04 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Shad L. Lords wrote:
   find . -type type -print0 | xargs -0 chmod value
  
  Or (SUSV compliant): 
  
  find . -type f -exec chmod 123 {} +
 
 P.S.
 
  Don't forget to escape the { and }.

Why? I've never needed to.

Cheers
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Re: [CentOS] Re: manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Tru Huynh
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:45:12AM +, Tony Mountifield wrote:
...
 
 Maybe, but unless it works on CentOS 5, it is irrelevant to this list.
it works on CentOS-5 (findutils-4.2.27-4.1)

 It certainly is not available in the find on CentOS 4:
The request was specific on CentOS-5. What's you point?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# find /home/user/ -type f -exec echo {} + \:
 find: missing argument to `-exec'
you would have the syntax wrong:
find /home/user/ -type f -exec echo {} +

but it's not available on CentOS-4 (findutils-4.1.20-7.el4.3)
nor CentOS-3 (findutils-4.1.7-9.).

Cheers.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: manipulating files and directories with spaces

2007-11-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Tru Huynh wrote:
 you would have the syntax wrong:
   find /home/user/ -type f -exec echo {} +
 
 but it's not available on CentOS-4 (findutils-4.1.20-7.el4.3)
 nor CentOS-3 (findutils-4.1.7-9.).

Yeah, gnu tools sometimes seem very late when it comes to adopting
standards :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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RE: [CentOS] Dual boot box: WinXP CentOS 5: Impossible to restoreWinXP?

2007-11-21 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Monday, 19 November 2007, Phil Schaffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
A good toolkit for Windows is the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows  at
http://www.ubcd4win.com/

It uses BartPE, discussed earlier, but adds a lot more tools, including
rootkit and antivirus scanners.  A clean install after data recovery is
still the best bet.

Phil: I did some reading on their web site. I do like that better than
BartPE! They include information about workarounds, when using
it with a Dell WinXP Recovery CD, for one example. I'll make a CD for
that, after I'm up and running. Thanks!  Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Dual boot box: WinXP CentOS 5: Impossible to restoreWinXP?

2007-11-21 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tueday, 20 November 2007, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I should have asked how big your setup was currently.

The HD is only 40 GB on my box, a low end Dell Dimension 2400 (2.6 GHz
Celeron) I won in a raffle.  After I get this one up and running, I am
going to switch wife and daughter's boxes, and redo them completely.
Wife's current box has an 80 GB HD, which will give me a lot more room
to experiment with VMware Server, which is something I want to learn
about and use, until we get a box that is Xen capable..

Oh well, yes the Windows apps take a while to install, been there myself.

Been there and done that? I have huge appreciation, for the large
number of packages that come from Upstream and are included in CentOS
and the speed with which I can install the OS and so much stuff. And,
for an example, the tools included, that would permit me to repair the
WinXP problem, from the Linux side of the box, as you explained.  To
say nothing of my appreciation for the Developers of CentOS and the
others who make this such a wonderful mailing list. I'm an old retired
Assembly Language programmer (started with IBM 360/65) and I never
worked with Unix, so this is a brand new world for me and one that I
regret I did not work in, professionally.

If I were to re-do the whole drive, not knowing it's size I might do
it as such:
snip
You can then install Windows from within vmware by making /dev/sdc a
raw disk for vmware. Once it's installed you could add an entry in
grub to boot into it.

I'm going to RTFM and I think this time around, make it dual boot
again and also try to install Windows within VMware, as you explain.
Next time, I will hopefully have enough confidence in my ability to do
this properly, that I will only install CentOS and then install
Windows within VMware. Thanks much! Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Dual boot box: WinXP CentOS 5: Impossible to restore WinXP?

2007-11-21 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tuesday, 20 November 2007, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I think it's been mentioned in the thread, but since you don't talk
about this in your summary above: one thing I would recommend is create
(at least) 2 partitions for MS: a small (5 to 10 G) for the system, and
a larger one for data.

Nicholas: Our other boxes have four (4) partitions for Windows. I've
never installed Windows on this box, because it came from the factory
with WinXp in Spanish. I reduced the NTFS partition in size, to make
room for CentOS, but it's still running what came on it, out of the
Dell factory.  Last week, I got an English language WinXP from Dell,
so I'm ready to roll in English now and do it properly on this one
too!

then use norton/symantec ghost to generate images of your system

Several of our boxes have had Removable EIDE drive units in them (made
by CRU) and I used those, before I began using Linux, to make images,
and that was a great thing to do. I got lazy about making the backups
and found it easier to backup over the network. I didn't use Norton
Ghost, I used something else, but as I write this, I can't recall the
name of the Utility I used to make the images. As I recall, at that
time (a few years ago), Norton was more difficult to use and I'd read
something about some unreliable results from Ghost.

you can probably do this with linux tools as well if you don't want
to buy ghost.

Yes. I will do everything possible with Linux tools in the future.
Thank you! Lanny
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[CentOS] Migration from RH9

2007-11-21 Thread Ugo Bellavance

Hi,

	I will probably have to migrate a few servers running Red Hat 9 to 
CentOS and I'd like to have opinions.  One server to migrate is running 
Fedora core 4.


Reason for migrating to CentOS: no more security updates available, 
hardware change planned anyway.


Here are the services to be migrated:

sendmail
pop (not sure which daemon, I think it is running the default daemon in RH9)
DNS
apache+PHP website
FTP
Dansguardian
Samba
Perforce
Squid

I haven't seen any directories like LDAP or windows Active Directory, so 
I assume for now that all authentication is done locally.


Anyone has experience with that?  I'm not too scared about sendmail, 
Bind, apache/PHP (except that maybe the PHP upgrade may break the 
website, but this is easily managed and can be tested), ftp.


However, I don't know dansguardian much, but I guess it would be a good 
idea to integrate it with squid.


I don't know squid much, but depending on what they're doing with it, it 
should be fairly simple.


For samba, are there major changes between the default version in RH9 
and Centos4 or 5?


Anyone migrated a perforce environment?

I'm also wondering whether I migrate them to centos3, 4, or 5.  3 would 
be to make the transition easier, while still letting them have many 
years of security updates.


4 is the version I use most, I barely touched 5.

5 would be for xen and... your ideas?

I usually use OpenVZ for virtualization, but they might want to 
virtualize windows servers too, which OpenVZ can't do.


Any input would be appreciated,

Regards,

Ugo

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Re: [CentOS] Dual boot box: WinXP CentOS 5: Impossible to restore WinXP?

2007-11-21 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tuesday, 20 November 2007, Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'd second this, but I'd say it's much better to go in the direction
of 10G than 5.  I installed WinXP  on a Mac Mini (BootCamp) with 5GB
on the internal drive and everything else on a firewire external
drive, and now after about a year of automatic updates that 5GB is so
nearly consumed that I'm having to shuffle things around by hand to
keep it working.  It's just too damn difficult to prevent Windows
software from dumping crap on the C: drive (and then referencing its
location in the registry so it becomes nearly impossible to relocate
it).

Bart: I'm contemplating using 10 of the 40 GB for WinXP and the rest
for CentOS 5. I hope to redo this box on Friday. What you mentioned is
one of my many pet peeves about Windows. Frequently, I will install
some Windows ap and the piggish programmers who wrote the stuff were
not professional enough to allow me to select where I want it
installed (our other boxes have a D partition for Programs, which is
where I'd want it installed) and they just go ahead and install into
C, as if they own the box.  Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Dual boot box: WinXP CentOS 5: Impossible to restoreWinXP?

2007-11-21 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tuesday, 20 November 2007, Nicolas Sahlqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I top that with another 10 - 20 GB, assume you got a DVD iso to burn,
so you make a copy and due to the effective native copy file feature,
expect a copy to be placed in some temp folder on C: why you need
another 5 - 8 GB free and then the space the DVD occupies.. This is
also true if you copy between 2 SMB shares, even if none of them are
on the local machine, it's neat iand effective isn't it?

Nicholas: We need much bigger hard drives to do that. What you wrote
makes a lot of sense and when it becomes possible, I'll devote that
much space to M$ Windows. My eventual goal is to discontinue using
Windows and avoid these problems. Lanny
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[CentOS] su error need help???

2007-11-21 Thread mcclnx mcc
I 'su to root and run command.  I got error message. 
Anyone know how to fix it?

=

/home/app/oracle/product/oms10g/install/unix/scripts/omsstup
start
/bin/su: user %s_userName% does not exist


  
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Re: [CentOS] html/form newbie: trying to upload a little data to a server

2007-11-21 Thread Charles E Campbell Jr

Kenneth Porter wrote:

--On Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:09 PM -0500 Charles E Campbell Jr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Anyway, here's the form:

form method=POST action=mmsrequest



That says the script is in the same directory as the form. Is your web 
server set up to allow scripts to be executed from the content 
directory? This will be restricted by both httpd.conf (and includes) 
and by SELinux, if enabled.


Which distro? Which version of Apache? What language is the script in?

Can you execute the script from the command line? (Many web script 
systems allow you to debug from the command line with some suitable 
setup, allowing you to test without an actual web server.)


My client side is a centos o/s... but the server side is an SGI.  I've 
found the following in a couple of httpd.conf files (I've found three on 
the system):

httpd.conf -- SGI Outbox Apache HTTP server config file... [ port 80 ]

In there:

Directory /usr/people/*/public_html
   AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
   Options Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
/Directory

The scripts and html page are in that sort of a directory, ie. 
/usr/people/cec/public_html , so I think the httpd.conf is the pertinent 
one.


How do I find out what version of Apache is installed?  How do I find 
out if SELinux is enabled?


The script -- well, I've tried Kornshell:

#! /bin/ksh
echo '$*'$*''
echo 'QUERY_STRING'${QUERY_STRING}''

and I've written a small C file, compiled it, etc.  In both cases I set 
permissions to rwxrwxrwx (and directory paths) just to make sure for now 
that they are not permission bound.


Both the script and executable work fine from the command line.

Thank you for helping,
Chip Campbell

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Re: [CentOS] su error need help???

2007-11-21 Thread mouss
mcclnx mcc wrote:
 I 'su to root and run command.  I got error message. 
 Anyone know how to fix it?
 
 =
 
 /home/app/oracle/product/oms10g/install/unix/scripts/omsstup
 start
 /bin/su: user %s_userName% does not exist

what is this oracle stuff doing here?

please copy-paste the _command_ you typed and the error message.

try
/bin/su

if this works, then see why your 'su' is aliased (try alias su)

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[CentOS] Re: su error need help???

2007-11-21 Thread Ugo Bellavance

mcclnx mcc wrote:
I 'su to root and run command.  I got error message. 
Anyone know how to fix it?


=

/home/app/oracle/product/oms10g/install/unix/scripts/omsstup
start
/bin/su: user %s_userName% does not exist



I guess the user that is called doesn't exist.

You'd have to look in the script to see which user is called there.

Was there an installation procedure or directives?


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[CentOS] resize an image file

2007-11-21 Thread Jerry Geis


On Nov 21, 2007 1:26 PM, Jerry Geis geisj at pagestation.com 
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos wrote:
/ I have a 100G disk on an old redhat 7.3 system.
//
// FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
// /dev/hda1 9.6G  2.4G  6.7G  27% /
// /dev/hda3  99G  6.1G   88G   7% /home
// hda2 is 2G swap
//
// I am trying to back that complete image up on my centos 5 system.
// I can do the dd if=/dev/hda bs=1M | ssh root at machine 
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos 'cat  disk.img'
// which gets me the whole 100G.
//
// As you can see most of the disk is unused.
// Is there a way to trim the resulting image to only be 10G instead of 100G?
//
// Thanks,
// Jerry
/

Try gzipping it, or bzip2:

dd if=/dev/hda bs=1M | gzip | ssh root at machine 
http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos 'cat  disk.img.gz'

Make sure to put the gzip before the ssh, so you'll compress before
you send over the network.

Brian,

Oh that compression will help, thanks.

However, once I have the image file I actually want to uncompress it and 
resize it
so its down to the 10G. I will be using this file as a virtual image. I 
dont want it setting there taking

up 100G when all it really is for me is 10G.

How do I CHOP off the unneeded 90G.

Jerry
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[CentOS] how to Load balancing

2007-11-21 Thread D. Bettancourt M.
 

Hi 

 

I need informmation about this Topic: Load balancing,,

 

I have 2 nic to internet, 1 nic to DMZ, and 1 nic to LAN, but I don,t know
how do that.

Where I can found information ??

 

 

 

Thx!! For your information!

 

 

 

 


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[CentOS] resize an image file

2007-11-21 Thread Jerry Geis

I have a 100G disk on an old redhat 7.3 system.

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 9.6G  2.4G  6.7G  27% /
/dev/hda3  99G  6.1G   88G   7% /home
hda2 is 2G swap

I am trying to back that complete image up on my centos 5 system.
I can do the dd if=/dev/hda bs=1M | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat  disk.img'
which gets me the whole 100G.

As you can see most of the disk is unused.
Is there a way to trim the resulting image to only be 10G instead of 100G?

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] resize an image file

2007-11-21 Thread John R Pierce

Jerry Geis wrote:
However, once I have the image file I actually want to uncompress it 
and resize it
so its down to the 10G. I will be using this file as a virtual image. 
I dont want it setting there taking

up 100G when all it really is for me is 10G.

How do I CHOP off the unneeded 90G.


create a file the size you want on the destination, run newfs on it, and 
loopback mount it, then...


   tar clzf - / /home | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] '(cd /mountpoint ; tar xvzf -)'


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Re: [CentOS] html/form newbie: trying to upload a little data to a server

2007-11-21 Thread Travis Fraser
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 17:09 -0500, Charles E Campbell Jr wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I've been trying for several hours to upload a few bits of data (not a 
 file) from an html form to a server, and none of my variants have worked 
 thus far.   I've done some web searching, too.
 
 Anyway, here's the form:
 
 form method=POST action=mmsrequest
  pre
  UserID: input type=text NAME=userid
  Date  : input type=text NAME=date value=mm/dd/yy
  Time  : input type=text NAME=time value=hh:mm:ss
  input type=submit input type=reset
  ^
How about changing type to submit?

  /pre
 /form
 
 I've tried mmsrequest as a script and as an executable.  Full path, 
 etc.  In and out of cgi-bin.
 
 Variants tried:
   method=GET
 
   I end up with a copy of the script (well, I told the browser not to 
 bother trying to display the executable), instead of having the script run.
 
  method=POST
  
  I either end up with a Not Found or Method Not Allowed.  I've 
 always insured that permissions were rwxrwxrwx, just to avoid any 
 permissions problem, expecting to tighten that up after I got the basic 
 thing working.
 
 I don't particularly care if the script or executable gets the 
 information from the command line separated by ampersands and whatnot, 
 environment variable (QUERY_STRING, or so I understand), or from 
 standard input.  However, I do care that the script/program gets run and 
 does get the information somehow, on the server side.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thank you,
 Chip Campbell
 
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Re: [CentOS] Re: perl 5.8.5-36.el4_5.2

2007-11-21 Thread Tom



Scott Silva wrote:

on 11/16/2007 7:46 AM Theo Band spake the following:

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Tom wrote:

Hi all,

Since upgrading to perl 5.8.5-36.el4_5.2 I have had no end of problems,
starting with needing compress::zlib which I got from rpmforge, then I
had to reinstall scalar::util to get mailscanner working but now I 
can't

install or upgrade any perl modules.
Has anyone else had problems or can someone tell me what I've done 
wrong

please?

regards
tom

OK ... I want to make something PERFECTLY CLEAR ...

Using CPAN installed modules is NOT supported while using a Package
Management system like RPM.

You should NOT use CPAN to install perl modules, nor should you use pear
to install pear modules.

That is because when you reinstall php-pear or perl, you will loose
these items that are updated/installed in any way other than via RPMS.

If you are using CentOS. then you need to get all your perl modules and
pear modules via RPM.  If you need something, it should probably exist
either at RPMForge, at KBS-Centos-Extras, at EPEL or in the worst case
condition, take one of the other modules that does exist and use it to
create the module.

Also, look in Fedora 6.7.8 and see if you can get an SRPM to make your
modules.

If you don't ... when perl or php-pear are upgraded, your install will
absolutely, positively, beyond any and all shadow of doubt be BROKEN.

(BTW, this is not to Tom .. but to the whole list ... DON'T INSTALL CRAP
FROM CPAN )

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

Ok, loud and clear.

What's the best way to revert back if a mess has been created. I tried
to install bugzilla on a Centos4.5 server but did not succeed. I now run
bugzilla on a Fedora installation instead. The bugzilla installation
suggested to install all kind of needed perl modules using CPAN.

So what's the best procedure to revert back the perl installation and
maintain it with yum?
I checked with rpm -V perl-5.8.5-36.el4_5.2.i386 and see a lot of
modified files. An uninstall is going to remove 266 packages, so
re-install is not a good option I guess. Yum upgrade/install will not
work, since the package is already installed of course.

Thanks for your help, and I shall never use CPAN again, never I 
promise.


Cheers,
Theo

You could try rpm -Uvh --replacefiles and see if it fixes it



Thanks for the heads up Johnny, I ended up manually removing as many 
cpan modules 1 by 1 that I could find rpm's for and installing the 
appropriate rpm's. There are still quite a few cpan modules that don't 
have rpm's but I now have everything fixed :)


tom

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[CentOS] Re: perl 5.8.5-36.el4_5.2

2007-11-21 Thread Scott Silva

on 11/21/2007 3:07 PM Tom spake the following:



Scott Silva wrote:

on 11/16/2007 7:46 AM Theo Band spake the following:

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Tom wrote:

Hi all,

Since upgrading to perl 5.8.5-36.el4_5.2 I have had no end of 
problems,

starting with needing compress::zlib which I got from rpmforge, then I
had to reinstall scalar::util to get mailscanner working but now I 
can't

install or upgrade any perl modules.
Has anyone else had problems or can someone tell me what I've done 
wrong

please?

regards
tom

OK ... I want to make something PERFECTLY CLEAR ...

Using CPAN installed modules is NOT supported while using a Package
Management system like RPM.

You should NOT use CPAN to install perl modules, nor should you use 
pear

to install pear modules.

That is because when you reinstall php-pear or perl, you will loose
these items that are updated/installed in any way other than via RPMS.

If you are using CentOS. then you need to get all your perl modules and
pear modules via RPM.  If you need something, it should probably exist
either at RPMForge, at KBS-Centos-Extras, at EPEL or in the worst case
condition, take one of the other modules that does exist and use it to
create the module.

Also, look in Fedora 6.7.8 and see if you can get an SRPM to make your
modules.

If you don't ... when perl or php-pear are upgraded, your install will
absolutely, positively, beyond any and all shadow of doubt be BROKEN.

(BTW, this is not to Tom .. but to the whole list ... DON'T INSTALL 
CRAP

FROM CPAN )

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes

Ok, loud and clear.

What's the best way to revert back if a mess has been created. I tried
to install bugzilla on a Centos4.5 server but did not succeed. I now run
bugzilla on a Fedora installation instead. The bugzilla installation
suggested to install all kind of needed perl modules using CPAN.

So what's the best procedure to revert back the perl installation and
maintain it with yum?
I checked with rpm -V perl-5.8.5-36.el4_5.2.i386 and see a lot of
modified files. An uninstall is going to remove 266 packages, so
re-install is not a good option I guess. Yum upgrade/install will not
work, since the package is already installed of course.

Thanks for your help, and I shall never use CPAN again, never I 
promise.


Cheers,
Theo

You could try rpm -Uvh --replacefiles and see if it fixes it



Thanks for the heads up Johnny, I ended up manually removing as many 
cpan modules 1 by 1 that I could find rpm's for and installing the 
appropriate rpm's. There are still quite a few cpan modules that don't 
have rpm's but I now have everything fixed :)


tom
You can also try cpan2rpm and make your own. Or look at dag.wieers.com or 
atrpms.net. As long as they are in the database, there is less chance of 
things getting corrupted.


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Re: [CentOS] how to Load balancing

2007-11-21 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 21, 2007 2:19 PM, D. Bettancourt M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 I need informmation about this Topic: Load balancing,,
 I have 2 nic to internet, 1 nic to DMZ, and 1 nic to LAN, but I don,t know
 how do that.

 Where I can found information ??
 Thx!! For your information!


Check out linuxvirtualserver.org

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Re: [CentOS] how to Load balancing

2007-11-21 Thread Alain Spineux
On Nov 21, 2007 8:19 PM, D. Bettancourt M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Hi



 I need informmation about this Topic: Load balancing,,



 I have 2 nic to internet, 1 nic to DMZ, and 1 nic to LAN, but I don,t know
 how do that.

 Where I can found information ??

google : dual internet connection iptables iproutes
google: multiple internet connection iptables iproutes









 Thx!! For your information!








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Re: [CentOS] how to Load balancing

2007-11-21 Thread Victor Padro
Maybe you should take a look to Pfsense, nice firewall/routing distro,
or even take a look at www.distrowatch.com and look for
firewall/router distros, there are many results there, but i insist in
www.pfsense.org that's the one i use for that task and there lots of
help in email lists and howto stuff and even a forum, so take a look
around.  Or even firestarter/iptables howtos in here i think,
www.howtoforge.com

Hope it helps,


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  I need informmation about this Topic: Load balancing,,
 
 
 
  I have 2 nic to internet, 1 nic to DMZ, and 1 nic to LAN, but I don,t know
  how do that.
 
  Where I can found information ??

 google : dual internet connection iptables iproutes
 google: multiple internet connection iptables iproutes


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [CentOS] resize an image file

2007-11-21 Thread Dennis McLeod
I use Clonzilla to do this. 
XP machines and Linux machines, backed up to a Samba share. (So far)




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jerry Geis
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:27 AM
To: CentOS ML
Subject: [CentOS] resize an image file

I have a 100G disk on an old redhat 7.3 system.

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 9.6G  2.4G  6.7G  27% /
/dev/hda3  99G  6.1G   88G   7% /home
hda2 is 2G swap

I am trying to back that complete image up on my centos 5 system.
I can do the dd if=/dev/hda bs=1M | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'cat  disk.img'
which gets me the whole 100G.

As you can see most of the disk is unused.
Is there a way to trim the resulting image to only be 10G instead of 100G?

Thanks,

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[CentOS] Re: how to Load balancing

2007-11-21 Thread Ugo Bellavance

D. Bettancourt M. wrote:


Hi

I need informmation about this Topic: Load balancing,,

I have 2 nic to internet, 1 nic to DMZ, and 1 nic to LAN, but I don,t 
know how do that.


Where I can found information ??


What do you need to load-balance? Internet connections or services on 
your server?


Ugo

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Re: [CentOS] HDD usage oddity

2007-11-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: Ugo Bellavance [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: centos@centos.org 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:37:31 AM (GMT+1000) Australia/Brisbane 
Subject: [CentOS] HDD usage oddity 

Hi, 

2 of my Centos4 servers are showing weird behavior. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# du -sh /var/ 
1.8G /var/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h /var 
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 
/dev/sda7 4.3G 3.9G 181M 96% /var 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] var]# df -h /var 
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 
/dev/sda7 2.9G 2.7G 0 100% /var 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] var]# du -sh /var/ 
1.6G /var/ 

du seems to be reporting the right size 

Anyone seeing this? 

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Did you recently tidy up /var by deleting some files ? I think I've seen this 
sort of behaviour when you, for example, move and compress /var/log/messages 
without restarting syslog. It would seem that the storage isn't freed up until 
any process using it is restarted. 



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Re: [CentOS] HDD usage oddity

2007-11-21 Thread Garrick Staples
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:37:31PM -0500, Ugo Bellavance alleged:
 Hi,
 
   2 of my Centos4 servers are showing weird behavior.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# du -sh /var/
 1.8G/var/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h /var
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda7 4.3G  3.9G  181M  96% /var
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] var]# df -h /var
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda7 2.9G  2.7G 0 100% /var
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] var]# du -sh /var/
 1.6G/var/
 
 du seems to be reporting the right size

Neither is more correct.  They report different things.  'df' reports on the
number of blocks in use by the filesystem.  'du' crawls the filesystem and
reports the number of blocks used by files.

So what you have here is disk usage by stuff that isn't linked into the
filesystem.  This would mean deleted files that are still opened by processes.

Try 'lsof /var | grep deleted' to list deleted and open files.



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Re: [CentOS] HDD usage oddity

2007-11-21 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:37:31PM -0500, Ugo Bellavance wrote:
   2 of my Centos4 servers are showing weird behavior.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# du -sh /var/
 1.8G/var/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h /var
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda7 4.3G  3.9G  181M  96% /var

There are two things to consider.

ONE
===

If you have large block sizes and lots and lots of small files then
du will report a number quite a lot smaller than df.  df reports
on actually amount free; du reports on apparent size of the files used.

TWO
===

If you delete a file that is still open (typically a log file, or
a file being written to in /var/tmp) then Unix doesn't actually delete
the file at that point; it removes the directory entry and marks the file
to be deleted when no one is using it any more.

I've seen developers create debug logs in /tmp that grew to 2Gb then
delete them to save space... while the program was still writing more
debug messages, so they didn't save any space at all.

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[CentOS] Re: HDD usage oddity

2007-11-21 Thread Ugo Bellavance

Stephen Harris wrote:

On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:37:31PM -0500, Ugo Bellavance wrote:

2 of my Centos4 servers are showing weird behavior.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# du -sh /var/
1.8G/var/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h /var
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda7 4.3G  3.9G  181M  96% /var


There are two things to consider.

ONE
===

If you have large block sizes and lots and lots of small files then
du will report a number quite a lot smaller than df.  df reports
on actually amount free; du reports on apparent size of the files used.

TWO
===

If you delete a file that is still open (typically a log file, or
a file being written to in /var/tmp) then Unix doesn't actually delete
the file at that point; it removes the directory entry and marks the file
to be deleted when no one is using it any more.

I've seen developers create debug logs in /tmp that grew to 2Gb then
delete them to save space... while the program was still writing more
debug messages, so they didn't save any space at all.



That was it...  I deleted a log that was still opened by syslog, and 
other by snort.


After restarting snort and syslog, I got the right reading.

diskcheck will not stop bugging me :)

Thanks a lot!

Ugo

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[CentOS] Port 631 closed, not hidden

2007-11-21 Thread Miark
I have the firewall turned on my CentOS 5 box, but GRC is
reporting that 631 is closed instead of stealthed. If the
firewall isn't configured to allow that, then why might that
be happening?

Miark
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Re: [CentOS] Port 631 closed, not hidden

2007-11-21 Thread Christopher Chan

Miark wrote:

I have the firewall turned on my CentOS 5 box, but GRC is
reporting that 631 is closed instead of stealthed. If the
firewall isn't configured to allow that, then why might that
be happening?


Do your firewall rules DROP or REJECT?
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